Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 04:09:20AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: The other side of the support I've been pondering about is extending dpkg-deb so that .deb files can be modified in conformant ways, stuff like inserting _-style members, or appending extra ones at the end, which would cover the

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 23:25:30 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 04:09:20AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: The other side of the support I've been pondering about is extending dpkg-deb so that .deb files can be modified in conformant ways, stuff like inserting _-style

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-02 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2013-07-31 18:24, Guillem Jover wrote: Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The resulting table looks pretty bad:

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:16:02PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: I know that everyone dreams about a stable API for a library, but I believe that even an unstable library at this point is way better than the status quo of having other layers like libapt (which is a proof that even if being

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:24:32 +0200 Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org wrote: Hi! Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The resulting

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:56:40PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I'm myself guilty of having implemented, back in 2007, python-debian's support to manipulate .deb files: the debian.debfile module. It is yet another Python implementation of deb(5), because back in the days there was no

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 02:18:13PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:56:40PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I'm myself guilty of having implemented, back in 2007, python-debian's support to manipulate .deb files: the debian.debfile module. It is yet another Python

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: [...] in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar May I ask why would you want that? There's a lot of extra complexity, incompatibility with existing tools, added moving parts... and I'm not aware of any gain.

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 1 August 2013 15:40, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: [...] in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar May I ask why would you want that? There's a lot of extra complexity, incompatibility with

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 03:52:38PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: On 1 August 2013 15:40, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: [...] in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar May I ask why would

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 1 August 2013 16:21, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 03:52:38PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: On 1 August 2013 15:40, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: [...] in preparation to add

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 05:21:01PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: On 1 August 2013 16:21, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 03:52:38PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: On 1 August 2013 15:40, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 16:40:51 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: [...] in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar May I ask why would you want that? See

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 09:38:35 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:24:32 +0200 Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org wrote: Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the current deb(5)

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The resulting table looks pretty bad:

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-08-01 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:16:02 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: Can you expand on the planned remedy and in how soon it might arrive? That I would be interested in as well. I know that everyone dreams about a

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-07-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The resulting table looks pretty bad:

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

2013-07-31 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the current deb(5) format