Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 7/20/05, Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a follow-up to say 'hey, i

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 7/20/05, Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a follow-up to say

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread zorglub
Hello, Why not just submit a 'me too' email to the bug report? I think it should be a command for the control bot. A simple 'me too' mail clutters the bug report, cannot be easily counted, whereas a simple command (confirm #XX for example) would allow to count such votes, use them as search

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Stuart Yeates
Paul Brossier wrote: Hi, With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a follow-up to say 'hey, i faced this one too',

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Andreas Fester
I like this idea too, since it would allow better prioritization of bugs, and maybe help for a better planning of releases in the future. Unfortunately, to really avoid abuse, this would end in the necessity to introduce some kind of registration and login mechanism to the BTS. What about a

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Paul Brossier
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:49:37AM +0100, Stuart Yeates wrote: Maybe a good place to start would be to cross reference BTS with the popularity-contest database. This doesn't measure annoyance, of course, but it's a a great measure of how many people are potentially effected by a bug. surely

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:24:02AM +0100, Paul Brossier wrote: Hi, With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Nigel Jones
On 20/07/05, Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:49:37AM +0100, Stuart Yeates wrote: Maybe a good place to start would be to cross reference BTS with the popularity-contest database. This doesn't measure annoyance, of course, but it's a a great measure of how

popcon (was Re: about voting for bugs)

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:29:37AM +0100, Paul Brossier wrote: surely installing popcon should be encouraged. I've been thinking about how popcon might be suggested by debian-installer. A cursory google search shows that this has been discussed in the past: can anyone point me at a summary? --

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Paul Brossier
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:40:08PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: On 20/07/05, Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:49:37AM +0100, Stuart Yeates wrote: Maybe a good place to start would be to cross reference BTS with the popularity-contest database. This doesn't

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:44:14PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? We rate bugs already, by severity, but I understand your point, and it appears to be one

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas Tille] if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in? As we have limited time and people, it is smart to start with the bugs

Re: popcon (was Re: about voting for bugs)

2005-07-20 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Jon Dowland] I've been thinking about how popcon might be suggested by debian-installer. A cursory google search shows that this has been discussed in the past: can anyone point me at a summary? The next version of d-i will ask for participation during the installation. It was fixed just

Re: popcon (was Re: about voting for bugs)

2005-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 01:01:09PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: The next version of d-i will ask for participation during the installation. It was fixed just before debconf5. Brilliant - that's the outcome I thought would be best :) Sad we didn't manage to do that before sarge was

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in? As we have limited time and people, it is smart to start with the bugs affecting most people. IMHO this might lead to the wrong assumption that bugs with only one vote have lower

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:44:14PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? Some of the relevant Bugzilla developers have articulated a couple of reasons for their voting

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 01:00:04PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Andreas Tille] if you ask me any bug is worth fixing, also if only a single user complained about the problem. So why spending effort in rating bugs? To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in?

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Paul Brossier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, With all these great news about the BTS these days, it would be nice to think about adding a voting feature: a way to count the number of users that are annoyed by each bug. It could be either a simple way to submit a follow-up to say 'hey, i

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Goswin von Brederlow [Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:26:28 +0200]: I would prefer a subscribe for bugs. If I am a user that hits the same bug I want to get mails send so nnn-submitter and especialy want to get a mail when the bug gets closed. I don't want to subscribe to the PTS, just the one bug.

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Paul Brossier
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 01:12:52PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in? As we have limited time and people, it is smart to start with the bugs affecting most people. IMHO this might

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, To get some indication on the order the bugs should be solved in? As we have limited time and people, it is smart to start with the bugs affecting most people. I can only see usefulness for QA team (orphaned) packages. A properly maintained package should have a thinking

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mark Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They considered the former reason much more important since it helps give a more positive experience for users even if the voting information is not otherwise used. Like those Press to get a signal buttons on traffic lights that aren't hooked up to

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow [Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:26:28 +0200]: I would prefer a subscribe for bugs. If I am a user that hits the same bug I want to get mails send so nnn-submitter and especialy want to get a mail when the bug gets closed. I don't want to

Re: about voting for bugs

2005-07-20 Thread Joey Hess
Andreas Fester wrote: What about a simpler solution for the beginning? Assumed that annoying bugs have more replies, the bugs could be sorted by the number of replies to get an idea of their priority. If this is implemented as an additional query that can be used from the main page of the BTS,