Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2022-02-08 Thread Tianon Gravi
Julian Andres Klode wrote: > docker images probably can move earlier as they don't have > as much interactive users that use tools that might be broken > (e.g. software-properties). I didn't see any open disagreement in this thread (apologies if I missed it elsewhere), and I think this makes

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-05 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 06:16:10PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 12:13:48AM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 11:45 PM Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'd like us to move from > > > > > > /etc/apt/sources.list > > >

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-05 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 12:13:48AM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 11:45 PM Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like us to move from > > > > /etc/apt/sources.list > > > > to > > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources > > > > While it's really a

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-05 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 05:31:49PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 08:53:15PM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote: > > On 03-11-2021 16:45, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > There is some software "parsing" sources.list on its own, most of that > > > is better served by `apt-get

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-05 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 08:53:15PM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote: > On 03-11-2021 16:45, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > There is some software "parsing" sources.list on its own, most of that > > is better served by `apt-get indextargets` (and for downloading stuff > > based on the urls, `apt-helper

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 05:32:53PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 04:23:52PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > You didn't say so explicitly, but do you plan to support old style > > /etc/apt/sources.list until forever? ;) Or do you envision automatic > > migration of

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/3/21 5:59 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 05:32:53PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: >> I don't know, to be honest, have not thought about it yet. > > many thanks for your verbose reply! /me likes this timeline. > >> I think an automatic migration might be to painful

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-05 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 08:53:15PM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote: > Hi Julian, > > On 03-11-2021 16:45, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > There is some software "parsing" sources.list on its own, most of that > > is better served by `apt-get indextargets` (and for downloading stuff > > based on the urls,

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-03 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Julian, On 03-11-2021 16:45, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > There is some software "parsing" sources.list on its own, most of that > is better served by `apt-get indextargets` (and for downloading stuff > based on the urls, `apt-helper download-file`, such that it respects > proxies and supports

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-03 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 05:32:53PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > I don't know, to be honest, have not thought about it yet. many thanks for your verbose reply! /me likes this timeline. > I think an automatic migration might be to painful what with all the > juju and ansible and saltstack

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-03 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 04:23:52PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Julian, > > this sounds like a nice and useful plan and feature(s), thank you! > just one question: > > On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 04:45:15PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > I'd like us to move from > >

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Julian, this sounds like a nice and useful plan and feature(s), thank you! just one question: On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 04:45:15PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > I'd like us to move from > /etc/apt/sources.list > to > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources [...] > #timeline You

Re: deb822 sources by default for bookworm

2021-11-03 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 11:45 PM Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'd like us to move from > > /etc/apt/sources.list > > to > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources > While it's really a nice feature for the third-party repository, I don't see the benefits to change the default