Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2009-03-11 kello 00:00 +, Roger Leigh kirjoitti: Additionally, not all inetds support IPv6, so adding these lines will break some inetds. Should we consider lack of IPv6 support as a bug? Ah yes, it's been a release goal since etch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:12:56AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ke, 2009-03-11 kello 00:00 +, Roger Leigh kirjoitti: Additionally, not all inetds support IPv6, so adding these lines will break some inetds. Should we consider lack of IPv6 support as a bug? Ah yes, it's been a release

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Brian May
Roger Leigh wrote: I did propose we switch to inetd-using packages providing a config file fragment in e.g. /etc/inetd.d, and having update-inetd simply regenerate inetd.conf from these pieces (and it would be trivial for it to preserve user edits with this mechanism), and it would also be

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Roger Leigh writes (Re: inetd's status in Debian): The fact that update-inetd directly updates inetd.conf and inetd.conf Since this was my fault, I would just like to apologise again. I did propose we switch to inetd-using packages providing a config file fragment in e.g. /etc/inetd.d

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 09:22:50AM +1100, Brian May wrote: Roger Leigh wrote: I did propose we switch to inetd-using packages providing a config file fragment in e.g. /etc/inetd.d, and having update-inetd simply regenerate inetd.conf from these pieces (and it would be trivial for it to

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:58:31PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: If we have a big comment at the top of the generated file saying in effect do not edit; edit /etc/inetd.conf.d/xxx and run update-inetd, we shouldn't have too many problems. It's already done elsewhere. Then move that file far,

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Luk Claes
Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: I'm wondering if making super servers become optionnal wouldn't be a worthy goal for squeeze. Why? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Having a superserver installed isn't broken. Why should every daemon

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 07:31:35AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: I'm wondering if making super servers become optionnal wouldn't be a worthy goal for squeeze. Why? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Having

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 10, Luk Claes l...@debian.org wrote: Btw, lots of packages are depending on update-inetd while it's guaranteed to be available when depending on inet-superserver. Indeed, this is broken. IIRC some helpful soul started reporting bugs asking to depend on update-inetd too... -- ciao,

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On moandei 9 Maart 2009, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Just looking at the packages requiring an inet superserver, you'll see that it's probably that nowadays users don't need a superserver at all[0]. I'm wondering if making super servers become optionnal wouldn't be a worthy goal for squeeze. Yes,

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 08:44:06AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 10, Luk Claes l...@debian.org wrote: Btw, lots of packages are depending on update-inetd while it's guaranteed to be available when depending on inet-superserver. Indeed, this is broken. IIRC some helpful soul started

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 06:39:23AM +, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 07:31:35AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: I'm wondering if making super servers become optionnal wouldn't be a

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-10 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Most machines nowadays have enough memory, and most daemons provide a standalone mode (I mean who configures apache as an inetd service ?). Just looking at the packages requiring an inet superserver, you'll see that it's

Re: inetd's status in Debian

2009-03-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 08:06:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Just looking at the packages requiring an inet superserver, you'll see that it's probably that nowadays users don't need a superserver at all[0]. Yes, and many users no longer have a superserver installed for that reason. I'm