Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Denis Barbier a écrit : On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:22:50PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Lionel Elie Mamane a écrit : - glibc maintainers, would you approve of such an update to a point release of sarge? I am *one* of the glibc maintainer, and I agree in principle with such a change,

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Well I am currently trying to split the glibc to not have libraries and binaries in the same package (that will be a problem for multiarch). While I am doing that, I can also put the timezone data in a separate package. Please do. That will be a

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-16 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:56:36AM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Denis Barbier a écrit : Ditto, but this should be done for all sarge stable releases, which is a lot of work. IMO splitting timezone data into a seperate package in the next sarge release would help future releases, if this is

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-15 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:22:50PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Lionel Elie Mamane a écrit : - glibc maintainers, would you approve of such an update to a point release of sarge? I am *one* of the glibc maintainer, and I agree in principle with such a change, though I haven't look very

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-03-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Lionel Elie Mamane a écrit : On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:42:25PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: To get things rolling, I have prepared an updated glibc for sarge with just the timezone data updated to the latest upstream upstream. It is at http://people.debian.org/~lmamane/glibc/ . Technically right

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:42:25PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: At Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:30:01 +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-15 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-02-07 14:40:52, schrieb Ian Jackson: 2. The package fixes a critical bug which can lead into data loss, data corruption, or an overly broken system, or the package is broken or not usable (anymore). That seems to be true in this case. I think a system which gets the clock wrong

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-10 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:42:25PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: At Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:30:01 +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-09 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Tue, 7 Feb 2006 14:30:01 +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: Hi, I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/). This data sometimes changes, more

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]: I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put this kind of data -- it isn't part of the default apt.sources for one thing; and it places an extra burden on the maintainer(s) (who know have to track three different upgrade paths,

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Anand Kumria
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:13:07AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]: I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put this kind of data -- it isn't part of the default apt.sources for one thing; and it places an extra burden on the

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Anand Kumria
[ debian-volatile dropped ] Hi Daniel, On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:41:26PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 02:30:01PM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: But that doesn't mean that we can issue an update to a stable package. Currently they are mainly done for security

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 09:52]: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:13:07AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]: I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put this kind of data -- it isn't part of the default apt.sources for

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 07:52:15PM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:13:07AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]: I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put this kind of data -- it isn't part of the default

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
2006/2/7, Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's not us, but the stable maintainer, that you'd have to talk to; he has traditionally not been interested in these sorts of updates to stable as far as I know. Well, perhaps a first start is creating the package for stable-updates; would it be

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Martijn van Oosterhout ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 14:09]: ISTM the d-volatile is the right place for this. However, in the mean time I think someone should send a message to debian-announce that anyone running a debian machine with an Australian (or other affected) timezone needs to get

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Ian Jackson wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout writes: The requirements for getting into a stable release update are not black magic, they're quite well known: http://people.debian.org/~joey/3.1r1/ 2. The package fixes a critical bug which can lead into data loss, data corruption, or an

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Martijn van Oosterhout writes (Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?): The requirements for getting into a stable release update are not black magic, they're quite well known: http://people.debian.org/~joey/3.1r1/ 2. The package fixes a critical bug which can lead

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Daniel, On Monday, 06 Feb 2006, you wrote: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 02:30:01PM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: But that doesn't mean that we can issue an update to a stable package. Currently they are mainly done for security purposes -- but stable updates should not be confined to only

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-07 Thread Anand Kumria
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:57:54AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 09:52]: On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 09:13:07AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Anand Kumria ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060207 04:34]: I also think volatile is precisely the wrong place to put

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-06 Thread Anand Kumria
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: Hi, I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/). This data sometimes changes, more rapidly than our release cycle (and than any release cycle we

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-06 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 02:30:01PM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: But that doesn't mean that we can issue an update to a stable package. Currently they are mainly done for security purposes -- but stable updates should not be confined to only that. They should be done to keep the system

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/). This data sometimes changes, more rapidly than our release cycle (and than any release cycle we can reasonable have). See

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-02 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/03/2006 12:35 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 02 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/). This data sometimes

Re: timezone data packaged separately and in volatile?

2006-02-02 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 02:08:52AM -0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: On 02/03/2006 12:35 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 02 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: I just realised that the timezone data in glibc is taken from an upstream database (namely