Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Rob Browning writes (Re: Shadow problems): Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can ofcourse make the new directory setgid (chmod g+s). All files created in that directory will have their gid set to that of the directory.. But I can see that using newgrp might be more

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-19 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Rob Browning) wrote: Hmm, I often use newgrp when I'm about to do a set of actions where I want to make sure all the new files get a particular group. For example, say I'm building a package in my home directory and I want all the files created to be group src because I'm likely to move

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-19 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Michael Meskes) wrote: M 1) Should we change the login package to be shadow aware? Or should shadow I talked to Guy (login maintainer) about this problem a while ago and treid to persuade him to use ths shadow login as standard (it works without the shadow file, too). But he prefers

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-19 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Richard Kaszeta) wrote: Quick question (which may show some of my ignorance of the current linux shadow stuff): Will inclusion of the 'shadow' package as default interfere with the use of NIS passwd/group entries? Our installation is fairly dependent on NIS. NIS and shadow don't

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Bruce Perens writes: Bruce Let's plan on having shadow be part of the base for 1.2 . We Bruce should thus have the default login be aware of it, etc. Let's not forget about xdm, please. -- Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Michael Meskes
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes: Well the login we're using now is from util-linux, and unless you can get the shadow patches into the upstream source (which wouldn't be a bad idea) it would be easier to use the login from the shadow package I think. You can use the Replaces: header for that.

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Michael Meskes
David Frey writes: M 1) Should we change the login package to be shadow aware? Or should shadow M come with its own login (that works with and without shadow password files)? M Or should we use the shadow login as standard? I'd prefer if we would be shadow's login, since it is far more

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Michael Meskes
Bruce Perens writes: Let's plan on having shadow be part of the base for 1.2 . We should thus have the default login be aware of it, etc. But the question remains, which login? The standard one patched, or the shadow one, or both and the user decides? Michael -- Michael Meskes

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Richard Kaszeta
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org (Debian Development) Bruce Perens writes: Let's plan on having shadow be part of the base for 1.2 . We should thus have the default login be aware of it, etc. But the question remains, which login? The standard one patched, or the shadow one, or both and the

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Bruce Perens
Please work out with Guy Maor (loginutils maintainer) which login to make standard. I think I will have the set-up script start the system with shadow enabled, and let the user take it out if they must by removing /etc/shadow . Thanks Bruce -- Clinton isn't perfect, but I

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-18 Thread Bruce Perens
The shadow feature does not preclude use of NIS passwd and group maps. Only users that have * as their password field will get their passwords from /etc/shadow or /etc/gshadow (file names may vary). If our NIS package replaces passwd, etc., with NIS-master-server-aware versions, that package

Re: Shadow problems

1996-08-17 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Miquel van Smoorenburg writes: Which reminds me: RedHat is going to integrate PAM into their next release. Perhaps now is a good time to look if we should consider using that too, or if we think that shadow is good enough for now. Someone's already compiled libpam