Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-10-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 04:14, Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This cost me over one hour as bind lacks proper error messages in this code path. Has that bug in bind (inadequate error reporting) been fixed? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Blog

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-10-06 Thread Russell Coker
Sorry for the delay in replying, you forgot to CC me... On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:12, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le dimanche 14 septembre 2008 à 21:32 +1000, Russell Coker a écrit : For a typical desktop system (such as my EeePC) a default installation of SE Linux in

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-10-06 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:38:12AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 04:14, Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This cost me over one hour as bind lacks proper error messages in this code path. Has that bug in bind (inadequate error reporting) been fixed? Not

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-10-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:45, Julien Cristau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 14:12:13 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 14 septembre 2008 à 21:32 +1000, Russell Coker a écrit : For a typical desktop system (such as my EeePC) a default installation of SE

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-17 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Manoj Srivastava said: On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Stephen Gran wrote: This is a sid install of the default policy in non-enforcing mode. I can't guarantee that every one of those complaints would have generated errors that matter, but it doesn't look like we're tuned

selinux documentation [was: Should selinux be standard?]

2008-09-17 Thread Vincent Danjean
Manoj Srivastava wrote: I think we are have a low enough avc denial rates that unconfined/permissive already provides value. We are pretty close to achieving unconfined/enforcing fo Lenny, and with help from people I think we can be there. strict/permissive and strinct/enforcing

Re: selinux documentation [was: Should selinux be standard?]

2008-09-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Vincent Danjean wrote: ... But if selinux is installed by default on all system, then I really thing that a basic documentation for Debian administrators (I mean people managing machines with the Debian distribution on it, not admin of official Debian machines) MUST be provided. +1 ...

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Julien Cristau wrote: I just tried booting with selinux=1 on my laptop. I see errors from mpd related to /usr/lib/libtheora.so.0.3.3, from xdm starting my X session, from sudo reading /etc/resolv.conf, from dmesg reading the system log, from ssh-add connecting to the ssh

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Felipe Sateler
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Firstly, what policy are you using? Has you machine been updated to actually compile/load the policy? (Like a number of packages, SELinux does need some configuration). I guess the argument could be made that a package that can't autoconfigure itself for some basic

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Orr
On 16/09/08 13:44, Holger Levsen wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 13:40, Reinhard Tartler wrote: so an `ls -Z` does not work for you? It doesnt do anything useful here. I'm all for enabling selinux per default, but I think it should be done, when it works and such a change shouldnt be

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Julien Cristau wrote: I just tried booting with selinux=1 on my laptop. I see errors from mpd related to /usr/lib/libtheora.so.0.3.3, from xdm starting my X session, from sudo reading /etc/resolv.conf, from dmesg reading the system log, from ssh-add connecting to the ssh

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 13:05 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Julien Cristau wrote: I just tried booting with selinux=1 on my laptop. I see errors from mpd related to /usr/lib/libtheora.so.0.3.3, from xdm starting my X session, from sudo reading /etc/resolv.conf, from

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Josselin Mouette said: Le dimanche 14 septembre 2008 à 21:32 +1000, Russell Coker a écrit : For a typical desktop system (such as my EeePC) a default installation of SE Linux in Lenny works for most things. What do you mean by most things? What is not

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 16 septembre 2008 à 13:05 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : allow avahi_t httpd_t:dbus send_msg; allow hald_t pcscd_t:dbus send_msg; allow httpd_t avahi_t:dbus send_msg; allow httpd_t system_dbusd_t:dbus send_msg; allow insmod_t lib_t:file execute_no_trans; allow mdadm_t

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Stephen Gran wrote: This is a sid install of the default policy in non-enforcing mode. I can't guarantee that every one of those complaints would have generated errors that matter, but it doesn't look like we're tuned for a normal install just yet. Well, seems

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Raphael Geissert
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Mon, Sep 15 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: Bastian Blank wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 06:12:03PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 15 septembre 2008 à 10:12 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : Agreed. Either SELinux is suitable with our default setup and

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: There should and will, but only if it used. I haven't had neither time nor interest to read the docs to correctly setup SELinux. So, the several packages which are installed by default, because of priority: standard, are completely useless.

Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
I'd like to ask whether selinux should really be installed by default. On the Linksys NSLU2, a very popular device with only 32 MB of RAM, installing selinux-policy-default takes at least half an hour (with heavy swapping) or possibly even more. This is a major regression from the installer

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread David Goodenough
On Sunday 14 September 2008, Martin Michlmayr wrote: I'd like to ask whether selinux should really be installed by default. On the Linksys NSLU2, a very popular device with only 32 MB of RAM, installing selinux-policy-default takes at least half an hour (with heavy swapping) or possibly even

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread Frans Pop
Martin Michlmayr wrote: I'd like to ask whether selinux should really be installed by default. On the Linksys NSLU2, a very popular device with only 32 MB of RAM, installing selinux-policy-default takes at least half an hour (with heavy swapping) or possibly even more.  This is a major

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:08, Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to ask whether selinux should really be installed by default. On the Linksys NSLU2, a very popular device with only 32 MB of RAM, installing selinux-policy-default takes at least half an hour (with heavy

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 14 September 2008 20:40, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I agree with your basic question, I do wonder how it can be a regression from Etch as selinux was also priority standard for Etch. It was my impression that selinux installation had become faster recently after