Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Joerg, On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 00:27, Joerg Jaspertjo...@debian.org wrote: On 11813 March 1977, Sandro Tosi wrote: Should we improve how we communicate in the project? Shouldn't there be more information on what's moving behind the scenes? It's just me that would like to know it? First

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Philipp, On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 00:41, Philipp Kerntr...@philkern.de wrote: Hi, On 2009-07-16, Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote: today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. more or less scheduled, as already stated. Now, scheduled means programmed,

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Michael, On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 01:26, Michael Banckmba...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:25:19PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: Should we improve how we communicate in the project? One thing I want to turn your attention in addition to what the others wrote is that -devel looks

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org writes: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 00:27, Joerg Jaspertjo...@debian.org wrote: First there wasnt much notice (as people already said), but also second: The thing most important for us DDs, which is for the day-to-day work the upload queue, is pointed elsewhere during

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Marc, On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:35, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidth...@ftwca.de wrote: Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org writes: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 00:27, Joerg Jaspertjo...@debian.org wrote: First there wasnt much notice (as people already said), but also second: The thing most important for us

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi, On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:41:05AM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg6.html Thanks for the pointer, but I'm referring to the upload queue, is pointed elsewhere during that time, not to the general reorganization of upload queues

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 15:22:44 -0500, John Goerzen wrote: Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: If you think we (DSA) are doing a bad job, please feel free to attand DSA BoF on DC9 and lets talk about it there. That implies to me that this is the only way to discuss the issue. Is that what

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Joerg Jaspert
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg6.html Thanks for the pointer, but I'm referring to the upload queue, is pointed elsewhere during that time, not to the general reorganization of upload queues announced with that email. It is *exactly* the point of

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:32, Joerg Jaspertjo...@debian.org wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg6.html Thanks for the pointer, but I'm referring to the upload queue, is pointed elsewhere during that time, not to the general reorganization of upload queues

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-17 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Fri Jul 17, 2009 at 12:51:34 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:32, Joerg Jaspertjo...@debian.org wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg6.html Thanks for the pointer, but I'm referring to the upload queue, is pointed elsewhere

Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi all, today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to me: should the project be notified of such core activities? should we only relay on #debian-devel irc channel topic to know this? ries is not

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: Hi all, today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to me: should the project be notified of such core activities? should we only relay

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 20:16:06 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: Hi all, today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to me:

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Ben Hutchings schrieb: Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to me: should the project be notified of such core activities? should we only relay on #debian-devel irc channel topic to know this? This is what debian-infrastructure-announce is for (though

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread James Vega
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: Hi all, today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to me: should

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Martin, thanks for replying (with your DSA hat on :) ). On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 21:24, Martin Zobel-Helaszo...@ftbfs.de wrote: Hi, On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 20:16:06 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: Hi all, today ries (aka ftp-master) was

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread John Goerzen
Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: If you think we (DSA) are doing a bad job, please feel free to attand DSA BoF on DC9 and lets talk about it there. That implies to me that this is the only way to discuss the issue. Is that what you meant to imply? I hope not; there are many people that can

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 21:24 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Hi, On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 20:16:06 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: Hi all, today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. Now,

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Ben, thanks for this and previous reply I didn't acknowledged (and all others, of course ;) ) On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 23:04, Ben Hutchingsb...@decadent.org.uk wrote: advance notice, since many people do not use #debian-devel. do not or can not: many company firewalls have IRC ports closed

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11813 March 1977, Sandro Tosi wrote: Should we improve how we communicate in the project? Shouldn't there be more information on what's moving behind the scenes? It's just me that would like to know it? First there wasnt much notice (as people already said), but also second: The thing most

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi, On 2009-07-16, Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote: today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. more or less scheduled, as already stated. Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to me: should the project be notified of such core

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:25:19PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: Should we improve how we communicate in the project? One thing I want to turn your attention in addition to what the others wrote is that -devel looks like the wrong list to me for this kind of discussion. I think -project would be