Re: Software Patents

2006-06-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 10:24:45PM +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: One of the terrible effect of software patents is that nobody knows if his program infringe some of them in some country. And, as you said, i think it's impossible to be completely patent-free as things stand now. However

Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Chris Walters
The existing European software patents were granted based on the assumption that you can differentiate between a computer program and its underlying ideas. I think such a distinction is indeed possible, and granting theese patents does not contradict Article 52. But I strongly believe

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Reinhard Tartler
if they are enforcable in court. Regarding many multimedia related software, there is indeed an ugly lot of software patents around, and it is very unclear if they would succeed in court if somebody would distribute software which implement ideas described by a patent. I don't think debian has

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Cesare Leonardi
Reinhard Tartler wrote: I don't think debian has decided on a more or less 'official' position regarding software patents. There many packages in debian, which are suspected to implement many ideas described by software patents. I don't know of any case were debian had to explain in court

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 05:23:51PM +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: I am for the radical way, to keep Debian completely free, libre. If I'm understanding you correctly on this (i.e. remove from Debian every software which has parts covered by software patents), this is a complete nonsense

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Chris Walters
Reinhard Tartler wrote: Only if they are enforcable in court. Regarding many multimedia related software, there is indeed an ugly lot of software patents around, and it is very unclear if they would succeed in court if somebody would distribute software which implement ideas described

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
I claim not being expert on this subject. But this argument seems rehash of ones done in debian-legal and debian-user. On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 05:23:51PM +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: ... Remaining on the multimedia side, if mp3 is covered by numerous patents that implementing a codec cannot

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Cesare Leonardi
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 05:23:51PM +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: I am for the radical way, to keep Debian completely free, libre. If I'm understanding you correctly on this (i.e. remove from Debian every software which has parts covered by software patents

Re: (forw) OT: Please vote for EU recognition of those who oppose software patents

2005-10-20 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
Le Thursday 20 October 2005 à 09:24:52, Sven Luther a écrit: On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 07:13:34AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: Pour ceux qui ne lisent pas -devel. Cette info est peut-être déjà passée sur -user-french. Si c'est le cas, désolé. Ouais bof, il faut voter pour plein

OT: Please vote for EU recognition of those who oppose software patents

2005-10-19 Thread Neil Williams
it on to other user group mailing lists etc. --- Dear Supporters of NoSoftwarePatents.com, On 6 July 2005, the European Parliament rejected a proposal to legalise software patents in Europe. However, our fight continues. There is now a public Internet poll in which you

Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Daniel K. Gebhart
Hi fellows, What do you think about setting a sign [1]against Software Patents on our website? I think the time has come to get more active against software patents. Due to the directive validating Software Patents that will be voted this 1st September at the European Parliament, we have

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Daniel K. Gebhart
.) So, who else should decide if there will be something done against software patents at the Debian website if not the DDs themselves? against software patents _and_ spam, Daniel -- (___) Daniel K. Gebhart http://dkg.con-fuse.org/ | dkg_at_con-fuse.org ( oo Key fingerprint = 10A6 A760 2635

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Daniel K. Gebhart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 13:50]: What do you think about setting a sign [1]against Software Patents on our website? I think the time has come to get more active against software patents. Due to the directive validating Software Patents that will be voted this 1st

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:58:10 +0200 Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SPAM doesn't get better if done for a good thing. (That doesn't stop me of writing letters to Members of European Parliament e.g., but your mail is absolutly misdirected at d-d.) Software patents do restrict what

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Andreas Barth
misdirected at d-d.) Software patents do restrict what debian can distribute, this list is I know, I'm just massivly fighting with them in one package. It's definitly no fun. for people interested in developing and distributing software. The mail is relavent to the members of the list, and non

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:35:31PM +0200, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: What do you think about setting a sign [1]against Software Patents on our website? Argh, I should have know that there'll be someone who would misuse debian-devel for this. See -project! -- 2. That which causes joy