Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread David Schmitt
On Monday 14 March 2005 17:39, Frank Küster wrote: David Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Monday 14 March 2005 16:27, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Not when the alternate choice is to not have Debian support $ARCH at all. Please cite where this was proposed. I read the original Nybbles

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
David Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 14 March 2005 17:39, Frank Küster wrote: No testing, no release, no security support. For me, that is so close to not support at all that I hardly see the difference. No testing and release support by the current RMs and no security support

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the current security team. Without that, vulnerabilities notifications won't be available. Why can't porters join the security team? Then everyone benefits. -

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread David Schmitt
On Monday 14 March 2005 19:18, David Nusinow wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the current security team. Without that, vulnerabilities notifications won't be available. Why can't

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:18:54 -0500, David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the current security team. Without that, vulnerabilities notifications won't be

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:54:34 +0100, David Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 14 March 2005 17:39, Frank Küster wrote: No testing, no release, no security support. For me, that is so close to not support at all that I hardly see the difference. No testing and release support by the

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the current security team. Without that, vulnerabilities notifications won't be available. Why can't porters join the

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 07:26:58PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:18:54 -0500, David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the current security

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:48:53 +1100, Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen no hesitation inducting new AMs, and I got solicited to be part of the security team a couple of years ago which suggests that they're not particularly picky about who they let in grin. A couple of years ago, we