Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-06 Thread Carey Evans
Darren/Torin/Who Ever... [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any debian packages and all architecture dependent packages will have to be recompiled. Since new Perls seem to break binary compatibility, do we need a better dependency mechanism? The best option I can see is for perl_5.005 (or perl_base,

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-05 Thread Adam P. Harris
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 06:32:22PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava écrivait: I agree. I do not. Perl 5.005 and the new perl-thread seems to interest a lot of people. But if we don't switch to perl5.005 right now, they would presumably download the

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 01:57:46AM -0400, Adam P. Harris écrivait: C'mon, let's be realistic. Introducing a new perl right now would basically blow a 1998 stable slink out of the picture (as would PAM, of course), IMHO. It's not just a question of re-uploading 35 packages, but also of

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-05 Thread Alexander Koch
On Mon, 5 October 1998 13:24:56 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Yes, if we do nothing for slink then we will have to make perl5.005 (and all perl package after 5.005) conflict with a list of 35 package with precise version. Yep. Seems more of a hassle to me. Perl 5.005 is stable. If we use

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-05 Thread Alexander Koch
[snip] Now. Who comes up with a Perl 5.005_02 for experimental? I'd like to run it against the walls to see if it does anything not-so-nice or something. Alexander -- Heute nacht war mir fuenf Minuten langweilig... -- Gabriel Krabbe Alexander Koch - - aka Efraim - PGP - 0xE7694969 - Hannover

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 06:41:47PM +0200, Alexander Koch écrivait: Now. Who comes up with a Perl 5.005_02 for experimental? I'd like to run it against the walls to see if it does anything not-so-nice or something. [I don't answer, I try to summarize] AFAIK, Darren Stalder (the perl

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Raphael == Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raphael Le Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 07:21:06PM +0200, Richard Braakman écrivait: Let's wait till *after* the freeze and do that in the new unstable. I agree. Frankly, I think it's a bad idea to just break all those packages.

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Raphael == Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raphael Why not propose perl and perl-thread ? Each one would Raphael conflict with the other one, but that's not a problem. That *is* a problem. I would like to have both on my machine: the normal perl for production, and the

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: That *is* a problem. I would like to have both on my machine: the normal perl for production, and the threaded one to prototype with. According to the mail I got from the maintainer, that is what he plans to do. /usr/bin/perl and /usr/bin/perl-thread, no

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 09:14:00PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava écrivait: That *is* a problem. I would like to have both on my machine: the normal perl for production, and the threaded one to prototype with. OK, I was wrong. I said it in the eventuality where perl and perl-thread would

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 06:32:22PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava écrivait: I agree. I do not. Perl 5.005 and the new perl-thread seems to interest a lot of people. But if we don't switch to perl5.005 right now, they would presumably download the forthcoming perl5.005 package from the next (after

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-03 Thread Darren Stalder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Raphael Hertzog, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: What will be done for slink ? I don't know but I'd like to have perl5.005 because it's better (ie. thread support is really useful). But then all lib*-perl maintainer will have to upload updated

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-03 Thread Joey Hess
Darren Stalder wrote: BTW, Joey, some of my projects could *really* use threaded Perl as well. But it's considered experimental in 5.005 and just isn't up to snuff in a production environment. Do you have any plans to offer it as something like /usr/bin/perl-t? (or would modules need to be

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-03 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Joey Hess, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: Do you have any plans to offer it as something like /usr/bin/perl-t? (or would modules need to be rebuilt too?) It will be available as /usr/bin/perl5.00502-thread. I could manage the /usr/bin/perl-t as

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-03 Thread Joey Hess
Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: It will be available as /usr/bin/perl5.00502-thread. I could manage the /usr/bin/perl-t as alternatives. Well /usr/bin/perl-thread is probably a better name. Any debian packages and all architecture dependent packages will have to be recompiled. Do you

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-03 Thread Martin Schulze
Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: Joey Hess, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: Do you have any plans to offer it as something like /usr/bin/perl-t? (or would modules need to be rebuilt too?) It will be available as /usr/bin/perl5.00502-thread. I could manage the /usr/bin/perl-t

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-03 Thread Richard Braakman
Martin Schulze wrote: Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: Joey Hess, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: Do you have any plans to offer it as something like /usr/bin/perl-t? (or would modules need to be rebuilt too?) It will be available as /usr/bin/perl5.00502-thread. I could

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 07:21:06PM +0200, Richard Braakman écrivait: Let's wait till *after* the freeze and do that in the new unstable. Frankly, I think it's a bad idea to just break all those packages. Isn't there some way to create a smooth upgrade path? No. But it might no be a great

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Oct 01, 1998 at 10:08:01PM -0400, Roderick Schertler écrivait: One wouldn't want to switch /usr/bin/perl to have threading enabled at this point, as there is still a significant speed penalty (somewhere in the neighborhood of 30%, even if you haven't spawned any auxiliary threads). I