Re: TZ=UTC wrong?

2019-10-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 05:01:56PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: This indeed works in Debian, but I think it's strictly speaking incorrect according to POSIX, and as such is non-portable. It's non portable in a way which hasn't been relevant in more than 20 years and as such isn't worth wasting

Re: TZ=UTC wrong?

2019-10-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2019-10-30 at 13:09:33 +, Colin Watson wrote: > First, is this a distinction with a meaningful difference worth spending > the time on changing it? Depends, I guess. See below. > Second, it is not correct to say that the format requires an offset. > Referring to timezone(3), the

Re: TZ=UTC wrong?

2019-10-30 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi Holger On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:42:54PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 09:00:15PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:28:32PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > Just noticed this change from the changelog. :) UTC is not really a > > > proper timezone s

Re: TZ=UTC wrong?

2019-10-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Colin, On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 01:09:33PM +, Colin Watson wrote: [...] > Since TZ=UTC is technically correct per timezone(3), I'd stick with it > unless there's a demonstrable practical difference (perhaps > compatibility on some odd systems?) justifying the effort involved in > changing it

Re: TZ=UTC wrong?

2019-10-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:42:54PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 09:00:15PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:28:32PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > Just noticed this change from the changelog. :) UTC is not really a > > > proper timezone specificatio

TZ=UTC wrong?

2019-10-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, (changed to: to debian-devel, added the r-b general list as cc: and bcc:ed Niko and Guillem.) the following came up in "#791362: perl: build timezone affects LOCALTIME_{MIN,MAX}": On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 09:00:15PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:28:32PM +0100, Guillem J