TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Luis Matos wrote: At least, we could preseed some options, (like debian-med) but that wouldn't come in tasksel's options, like kde-desktop and xfce-desktop. IMHO the best solution would be if tasksel would have a two level selection: [x] Desktop environment

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:46:35 +0200 (CEST) Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Luis Matos wrote: IMHO the best solution would be if tasksel would have a two level selection: ... [ ] Custom Debian Distribution [ ] Debian-Edu [ ] Debian-Jr.

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Ben Armstrong wrote: But as Luis pointed out, having material on extra CDs or needing the network to install it is a bit of a problem. Well, IMHO shipping Lenny on CDs is a little bit - how to say - oldfashioned, right? I don't think a warning alone is sufficient (What

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 19 April 2007 14:46, Andreas Tille wrote: IMHO the best solution would be if tasksel would have a two level selection: I doubt this is going to happen in the in tasksel. For one thing, its maintainer has quite strong feelings against it. For another thing, a two-level selection is

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Luis Matos
Frans Pop escreveu: On Thursday 19 April 2007 14:46, Andreas Tille wrote: IMHO the best solution would be if tasksel would have a two level selection: I doubt this is going to happen in the in tasksel. For one thing, its maintainer has quite strong feelings against it. For another

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Luis Matos
Well ... i think you exagerated a little bit. 2 layer is not multiple layer and tasksel is not apt, aptitude or synaptic. but it can be done. I'll give you the desktop task example. there is a team, debian-desktop that supports and organizes all desktop tasks. by this i mean that there

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 19 April 2007 16:46, Luis Matos wrote: Also, can we arrange some kind of cdds-pre-selection in d-i? One page fter tasksel that would have the cdds listed, or previously. Or at least an yes/no question, do you want to install any CDD? Note that I'm just thinking out load here. For

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Joey Hess
Andreas Tille wrote: IMHO the best solution would be if tasksel would have a two level selection: I'm afraid that I can't seriously consider this kind of proposal unless it shows indications of taking into account all the issues and design goals listed in

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Armstrong wrote: But as Luis pointed out, having material on extra CDs or needing the network to install it is a bit of a problem. No, it's not, because d-i _first_ lets the user decide how they want to configure apt, and then displays a tasksel that offers only the tasks that are available

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Joey Hess
Andreas Tille wrote: I think they probably will install via DVD or network. If tasksel keeps its install from one CD medium philosophy Tasksel does not have any such philisophy. apt even supports using debconf to prompt for a CD change. d-i does not currently support scanning more than one CD;

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Joey Hess
Frans Pop wrote: It should be possibly to define tasks for CDDs and have them included in tasksel, but I do not think they will ever be displayed by default in the regular tasksel or for regular installations. After all, we are talking about custom debian _distributions_. I won't say

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Joey Hess wrote: I'm afraid that I can't seriously consider this kind of proposal unless it shows indications of taking into account all the issues and design goals listed in http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/tasksel/faq/ The answer to question one is very compelling if you

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Joey Hess wrote: Andreas Tille wrote: I think they probably will install via DVD or network. If tasksel keeps its install from one CD medium philosophy Tasksel does not have any such philisophy. Quoting from #186085 From: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andreas

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Joey Hess
Andreas Tille wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:50:03 -0400 Little more needs to be said, although you might find tools/update_tasks in debian-cd worthwhile reading (or not). -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 02:46:35PM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Luis Matos wrote: At least, we could preseed some options, (like debian-med) but that wouldn't come in tasksel's options, like kde-desktop and xfce-desktop. IMHO the best solution would be if tasksel

Re: TaskSel proposal (Was: Proposal for a new CDD sub-project: Debian4Business)

2007-04-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 04:05:38PM +0200, Frans Pop a écrit : On Thursday 19 April 2007 14:46, Andreas Tille wrote: IMHO the best solution would be if tasksel would have a two level selection: I doubt this is going to happen in the in tasksel. For one thing, its maintainer has quite