dude who spent all his social capital in defending the theoretical
rights of a convicted paedophile
rms called Epstein "a serial rapist", I don't really understand how you
might think those words are "defending".
Best
Le 9 avril 2021 22:41:10 GMT+02:00, Holger Levsen a
écrit :
> so policing the tone *here* is indeed taking sides
Then let's agree to disagree.
--
Pierre-Elliott Bécue
From my phone
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 10:38:54PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > But the definition is not the point; the effect is the same: asking
> > "both sides" to "de-escalate" when one party has been subjected to an
> > existential attack by the other, prioritizes "civility" over equity.
>
> I
Le jeudi 08 avril 2021 à 14:36:09-0700, Dmitry Borodaenko a écrit :
> On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 05:44:59AM +0100, Martina Ferrari wrote:
> > It is so repetitive is boring at this point. One side wants to see a whole
> > group of people dead, the other side is saying that is really bad with very
> >
On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 05:44:59AM +0100, Martina Ferrari wrote:
> It is so repetitive is boring at this point. One side wants to see a whole
> group of people dead, the other side is saying that is really bad with very
> strong words; the centrist chastises the latter for being rude.
The paradox
Asking for de-escalation is not tone-policing.
Tone-policing is using the way some people tend to express their
opinion (generally violently, out of reaction to an attack they suffered
from) as a way to invalidate their opinion or criticize them.
+1
We disagree here about the definition.
Le mardi 06 avril 2021 à 11:15:29-0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > Asking for de-escalation is not tone-policing.
>
> > Tone-policing is using the way some people tend to express their
> > opinion (generally violently, out of reaction to an attack they suffered
> > from) as a way to invalidate
> Apologies, this is all off-topic for debian-devel
Please take it elsewhere, I do not think that this discussion is of any
value to the project whatsoever and it should have already ended several
posts ago already.
-Jonathan
On Tue, 2021-04-06 at 22:07 +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> On this point I disagree because Steve never posted that publicly,
So if I sent a private mail "fuck off you piece of shit" as a reply to
a message that is okay as long as I don't send it to the public mailing
list?
Either it's
[Apologies, this is all off-topic for debian-devel and I should have set an
appropriate MFT from the beginning. Corrected now.]
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 09:59:55AM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> Firstly, I was notidied via mail that the message was initially private (but
> it was not, if
Le mardi 06 avril 2021 à 21:10:09+0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL a écrit :
> Some persons consider that "Fuck off, nobody asked you for your shitty
> fascist opinion" is not acceptable publicly regardless the
> circumstances.
On this point I disagree because Steve never posted that publicly, but
he
We disagree here about the definition. But the definition is not the point;
the effect is the same: asking "both sides" to "de-escalate" when one party
has been subjected to an existential attack by the other, prioritizes
"civility" over equity.
But considering things differently canot help
Den tis 6 apr. 2021 kl 20:15 skrev Steve Langasek :
> Transphobia by definition is not civilized and the rules of civilized
> discourse do not apply when dealing with individuals who are external to
> your civilization.
That to me seems like an absolutely extraordinary proposition. The epitome
Hi Steve,
On Tue, 2021-04-06 at 11:15 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> the rules of civilized discourse do not apply when dealing with
> individuals who are external to your civilization.
Please take your imperialist ideology elsewhere.
Thanks,
Ansgar
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 12:47:23PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le lundi 05 avril 2021 à 15:58:37-0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > Hi all,
> > After some long thought, I believe this message warrants a public response
> > (and discussion).
> > The facts are these:
> > - an individual
Le lundi 05 avril 2021 à 15:58:37-0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> After some long thought, I believe this message warrants a public response
> (and discussion).
>
> The facts are these:
>
> - an individual who is not part of the Debian community sent me (and other
>people) a
Hi,
Firstly, I was notidied via mail that the message was initially private
(but it was not, if I understand what you say, and since I read it). I
am sorry for this as your thread should have been private and would not
have created such situation. I would not have had any feedback if it had
Hi all,
After some long thought, I believe this message warrants a public response
(and discussion).
The facts are these:
- an individual who is not part of the Debian community sent me (and other
people) a private, unsolicited email sharing his views on the current
topic of the day.
-
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