Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-12 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Svante Signell dijo [Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 09:52:36AM +0100]: > Most people I meet (and installing Linux) choose to install some kind of > Ubuntu distribution. At the same time the number of people installing > Debian is declining as discussed here lately. Something has gone > completely wrong with

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-09 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Hi Svante, Thank you for sharing this information in debian-devel. Much appreciated. Even though some say it is off-topic (technically speaking), I'm sure we must know such things. Personally I doubt if I would notice this information somewhere else. Thank you. Regards, Dmitry. -- To UNSUB

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 09 décembre 2012 à 00:46 +0100, Salvo Tomaselli a écrit : > > > We should make sure that people have to ask our permission before they use > > our code for any other purpose! And make sure they can't do evil with it! > That would be proprietary software... .-'---`-. ,' `.

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-08 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
> We should make sure that people have to ask our permission before they use > our code for any other purpose! And make sure they can't do evil with it! That would be proprietary software... -- Salvo Tomaselli -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject o

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 12:09:10AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > this time installing surveillance code. > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu > http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do "Again"? Looks like old news. -- WBR, wRAR signa

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 07:06:02PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > Le Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 10:41:37AM +0100, Svante Signell a écrit : > > > > Maybe debian-devel is not the > > correct list, but the decline of Debian users was discussed here and not > > considered off-topic. > > Hi Svante, > >

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 10:41:37AM +0100, Svante Signell a écrit : > > Maybe debian-devel is not the > correct list, but the decline of Debian users was discussed here and not > considered off-topic. Hi Svante, I confirm that debian-devel is not the correct list. Its scope is not defined by the

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-08 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 10:11 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 09:52:36AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > Something has gone completely wrong with the PR for Debian, suffering > > from the success of derived distributions like Ubuntu. > > You are welcome to join the effort

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 09:52:36AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > Something has gone completely wrong with the PR for Debian, suffering > from the success of derived distributions like Ubuntu. You are welcome to join the efforts of the people on the debian-publicity mailing list that work daily on

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-08 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 00:34 +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le samedi, 8 décembre 2012 00.09:10, Svante Signell a écrit : > > this time installing surveillance code. > > While these concerns are certainly serious, they do not concern the > "Development of Debian". In fact it does, see belo

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-08 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 00:08:36 +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > On 7 December 2012 23:36, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Svante Signell writes: > > > >> this time installing surveillance code. > > > >> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu > >> http://www.

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-07 Thread Ean Schuessler
I think RMS has done exactly what needed doing. Ubuntu is trying to find a way to generate revenue and RMS raises some perfectly points about why he disagrees. He is exactly the right guy to speak out about it because it is in line with his "brand image". Kind of like shock-jock, Howard Stern, p

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-07 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 7 December 2012 23:36, Russ Allbery wrote: > Svante Signell writes: > >> this time installing surveillance code. > >> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu >> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do > >> Any reason Debian should be so clo

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Svante Signell writes: > this time installing surveillance code. > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu > http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do > Any reason Debian should be so closely linked to Ubuntu? We should make sure that people

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-07 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le samedi, 8 décembre 2012 00.09:10, Svante Signell a écrit : > this time installing surveillance code. While these concerns are certainly serious, they do not concern the "Development of Debian". > Any reason Debian should be so closely linked to Ubuntu? No reason besides the fact that a cent

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-07 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 12:09:10AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: >> this time installing surveillance code. > >> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu >> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what

Re: Ubuntu have done it again,

2012-12-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 12:09:10AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > this time installing surveillance code. > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/07/1527225/rms-speaks-out-against-ubuntu > http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do > Any reason Debian should be so closely linked to Ub