Excerpts from Noah Meyerhans's message of 2014-02-14 14:47:49 -0800:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 07:40:20PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
I have to admit that I did *not* expect this. At all.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
Quite the opposite - some people felt it would
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
I'm not sure I understand why. Debian and Ubuntu have been using
different init systems for some time now, with Ubuntu on upstart and
Debian on sysvinit. Why should our change of defaults really matter to
them, when they weren't using our default
]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Well, it is difficult to second-guess Shuttelworth, but the tight coupling
is likely to be part of it. This was a non-issue with sysvinit (for Debian)
and upstart (for Ubuntu), but with systemd we will have to get involved
upstream.
Debian and Ubuntu
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Well, it is difficult to second-guess Shuttelworth, but the tight coupling
is likely to be part of it. This was a non-issue with sysvinit (for Debian)
and upstart (for Ubuntu), but with systemd we will have to get
I have to admit that I did *not* expect this.
At all.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
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On 14/02/14 19:15, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
I have to admit that I did *not* expect this. At all.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
Quite the opposite - some people felt it would be inevitable that
Debian choosing systemd would
Hi,
Daniel Pocock:
I have to admit that I did *not* expect this. At all.
Quite the opposite - some people felt it would be inevitable that
Debian choosing systemd would effectively be a death sentence for Upstart
So did/do I. But that doesn't mean that I expected Mark to acknowledge
that
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 19:15 +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
That's really interesting... and disturbing... in so many ways.
First, while I don't like everything about systemd, I was/am in favour
of it (as long as we can keep the non-Linux ports
[Christoph Anton Mitterer]
btw: And quite obviously, this post is not about bashing upstart,..
No, and it's also not about Debian. Could we ... do our Canonical
bashing somewhere else? Please? Thanks.
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On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 07:40:20PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
I have to admit that I did *not* expect this. At all.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
Quite the opposite - some people felt it would be inevitable that
Debian choosing systemd would effectively be a death
On Feb 14, 2014, at 07:40 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
Quite the opposite - some people felt it would be inevitable that
Debian choosing systemd would effectively be a death sentence for Upstart
Keep in mind that (just as before the ctte decision and Mark's announcement)
Upstart is free software,
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