On Wednesday 17 May 2006 23:08, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:42:42AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
wrote:
An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you
have non-incompetent network management, unless you are on the
On Thu, 18 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
No, you sounded like you wanted to enforce the installation of an MTA
on every system and only support that (since all systems would have
one why bother with anything else?).
Drop the only and change that to by default always, and you will have
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 04:55 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 03:16:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Ignorance, fear of becoming an open relay and years of learning
will have to be overcome before Most Users will config Debian to
use a relayhost.
It's not very
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 13:11 +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
chatting). Most people don't run their own mail servers and can
easily
be convinced by the ISP to use a mail client like Lookout, which is
pointed at the ISP's outbound mail server. Personally, I think it
is a
cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 23:08, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Except that most customers don't know what a port is, nor much less care
that any are blocked (unless it prevents them from playing everquest or
chatting). Most people don't run their own mail servers
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
which results in smtphost bugs.debian.org in the conffile. Maybe the
default to the MTA question could be N instead.
An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you have
non-incompetent network management, unless you are on
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:42:42AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you
have non-incompetent network management, unless you are on the
business of selling full internet uplinks for server hosting, or you
do business
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:42:42AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you
have non-incompetent network management, unless you are on the
business of selling full internet
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 09:42 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
[snip]
What exactly is the problem with making a local MTA absolutely mandatory,
(as in anything that sends email either recommends or depends on
mail-transport-agent)?
Of
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
which results in smtphost bugs.debian.org in the conffile. Maybe the
default to the MTA question could be N instead.
An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:42:42AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you
have non-incompetent network management, unless you are on the
business of selling full internet uplinks for server
Ron Johnson wrote:
The d-i people, or the m-t-a people? That's where you define what
kind of service you want.
You'd not just have to bluntly ask, but firmly recommend that they
install the m-t-a as a relay host. (Once a desktop user like me
figures out what a relayhost is, and that it
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
And how would that be any simpler than setting an smtp server for
reportbug? Setting up a fully usable MTA is more difficult than having
reportbug connect directly to bugs.d.o.
I'm sorry, but that is just plain wrong.
aptitude install postfix
What type of
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
And how would that be any simpler than setting an smtp server for
reportbug? Setting up a fully usable MTA is more difficult than having
reportbug connect directly to bugs.d.o.
I'm sorry, but that is just plain
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
You mean connection from random user ports to destination port 25?
Yes.
If you are at a place where that is the case then you should have an
IT team or admin that will tell you what smtp host to use or even
install your system.
We do. So
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 03:16:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Ignorance, fear of becoming an open relay and years of learning
will have to be overcome before Most Users will config Debian to
use a relayhost.
It's not very difficult to have exim, the default MTA, simply not launch
an smtp
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
delivered internaly or not at all for my chroots but I still want to
be able to report bugs with the right dependency informations. If you
force the use of an MTA then I would have to save
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