Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 06:13:57PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > I wrote: >> >> In some jurisdictions lending is an exclusive right of the copyright >> >> owner. >> > >> > Thomas Bushnell writes:

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

(I am not a lawyer, but I play one on TV) On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:11:29PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Thomas Bushnell writes: >>> Not quite correct. You are buing not just the right to read it; you are >>> also buying the physical copy, and y

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On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 06:13:57PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I wrote: > >> In some jurisdictions lending is an exclusive right of the copyright > >> owner. > > > > Thomas Bushnell writes: > >> Can you be specific with references please? > > >

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John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wrote: >> In some jurisdictions lending is an exclusive right of the copyright >> owner. > > Thomas Bushnell writes: >> Can you be specific with references please? > > Well, one more anti-fr

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I wrote: > In some jurisdictions lending is an exclusive right of the copyright > owner. Thomas Bushnell writes: > Can you be specific with references please?

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John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas Bushnell writes: >> Not quite correct. You are buing not just the right to read it; you are >> also buying the physical copy, and you may do with it what you want: loan >> it, rent it... > > In some jurisdictions lending is an exclusive right of th

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Thomas Bushnell writes: > Not quite correct. You are buing not just the right to read it; you are > also buying the physical copy, and you may do with it what you want: loan > it, rent it... In some jurisdictions lending is an exclusive right of the copyright owner. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUB

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Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, you do need a license to the content of your books. Only thing is, > when you buy a book you are buying the right to read it. NOT the right > to copy it. NOT the right to modify it. NOT the right to redistribute > (modified or not) copies

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

Jon Dowland wrote: > On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 01:08:00PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > >>Based on the text on the w.d.o frontpage it seems that Michael Ivey >>has provided the tar.gz with all the w.d.n contents. > > > I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is m

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John Hasler wrote: [snip] > > Are you saying that if I write a highly original stream of conciousness > > novel that is judged by the critics to be of abysmal literary quality > > that I will be denied a copyright in Norway? > > Thiemo Seufer writes: > > If the average audience consistently says "

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Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Computer programs are exempted from that requirement. > > The work needs to have some kind of creative art. Without any quality judgement, correct. This doesn't leave anything of interest out. > Trivial programs are also not

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I wrote: > Do you mean quality or originality? Thiemo Seufer writes: > The amount of creativity the author put in _successfully_. Well, if he didn't successfully put it in then it isn't there, is it? I wrote: > Are you saying that if I write a highly original stream of conciousness > novel that

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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Computer programs are exempted from that requirement. The work needs to have some kind of creative art. Trivial programs are also not protected in a lot countries. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating w iki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

Jesús M. Navarro wrote: > Hi, Andreas: > > El Martes, 06 Septiembre 2005 18:20, Andreas Schuldei escribió: > > * Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-06 17:39:06]: > > > Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by > > > law should be sufficient for the wiki cont

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John Hasler wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > > We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need to > > have (the norwegian expression) "verkshøyde", which implies a certain > > quality level as Andreas puts it. > > Do you mean quality or originality? The amount of creati

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Henning Makholm writes: > [værkshøjde] is more a question of the amount of expressive choice that > went into producing the text to make it fit under the law's concept of > "an artistic or literary work". Even bad literature *is* literature and > so enjoys copyright protection. That's pretty much

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating w iki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

Hi, Andreas: El Martes, 06 Septiembre 2005 18:20, Andreas Schuldei escribió: > * Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-06 17:39:06]: > > Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by > > law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most cases. > > i spoke to a

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Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need to > have (the norwegian expression) "verkshøyde", which implies a certain > quality level as Andreas puts it. Do you mean quality or originality? Are you saying that if I write a highly original st

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[Henning Makholm] > Unless the difference between Norwegian and Danish law is much > greater than I imagine, "værkshøjde" is not purely a matter of > quality. You are right, of course. I just lacked the ability to express this clearly in english. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

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Scripsit Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [John Hasler] >> I suspect that you misunderstood the lawyer. > We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need > to have (the norwegian expression) "verkshøyde", which implies a > certain quality level as Andreas puts it. T

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[John Hasler] > I suspect that you misunderstood the lawyer. We have the the same limitation in norwegian law, were the work need to have (the norwegian expression) "verkshøyde", which implies a certain quality level as Andreas puts it. There are no limits on copying and distribution of text belo

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> There needs to be a certain quality level reached, aparently, which is > not necessarily given in a wiki. If only works of a certain quality level are protected by copyright why aren't the products of the entertainment industry in the public domain? I suspect that you misunderstood the lawyer.

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating w iki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

* Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-06 17:39:06]: > Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by > law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most cases. i spoke to a german lawyer about this exact (license) issue when skolelinux.de pondered an applicabl

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating w iki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

Actually, I stand partially corrected as of: > Actually, in Norway, I got a limited right to copy it, a given right > to modify it, a limited right to distribute it, and a limited right to > distribute copies. Down here (Brasil) -- and I suspect in the USofA too -- NO (or, better saying, extremel

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating w iki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by > law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most cases. I think it's fairly reasonable to think that anything[1] that appears in debian.org should be shippable in main. [1]

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating w iki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

[Humberto Massa Guimarães] > Yes, you do need a license to the content of your books. Only thing is, > when you buy a book you are buying the right to read it. NOT the right > to copy it. NOT the right to modify it. NOT the right to redistribute > (modified or not) copies. Actually, in Norway, I g

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating w iki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

> I might be slow, but can you explain why we need a license for this? > I do not need to license my books, but I do need to license my > software. Why should the wiki documents be treated more like software > than a book? Yes, you do need a license to the content of your books. Only thing is, wh

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:58:59AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I might be slow, but can you explain why we need a license for this? > I do not need to license my books, but I do need to license my > software. Why should the wiki documents be treated more like software > than a book? your

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Jon Dowland] >> I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is made to >> incorporate a clear indication of the licence under which material on >> this wiki is available under, either with a user-readable prompt or >> machine-readable me

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

[Jon Dowland] > I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is made to > incorporate a clear indication of the licence under which material on > this wiki is available under, either with a user-readable prompt or > machine-readable metadata (ideally both). I might be slow, but can you

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

Hi, On Tuesday 06 September 2005 01:13, Jon Dowland wrote: > I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is made to > incorporate a clear indication of the licence under which material on > this wiki is available under, either with a user-readable prompt or > machine-readable metadata

a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 01:08:00PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Based on the text on the w.d.o frontpage it seems that Michael Ivey > has provided the tar.gz with all the w.d.n contents. I would like to make a desperate plee that some attempt is made to incorporate a clear indica