Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:32:08 +0200, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2006-10-06 18:06:47, schrieb Mikhail Gusarov: Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude search'? Good question! The two offending Servers use Monocrom-Graficcards. Maybe aptitude can not

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-11 Thread Ionut Georgescu
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:32:08PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-10-06 18:06:47, schrieb Mikhail Gusarov: Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude search'? Good question! The two offending Servers use Monocrom-Graficcards. Maybe aptitude can not enter

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-11 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006, Jan Kechel wrote: Brian May wrote: Jan == Jan Kechel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan I wrote a little perl-script: How does this compare with deborphan? deborphan shows you the 'leave' packages of your dependency-tree apt-findremovable checks for a

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-11 Thread Jan Kechel
Peter Palfrader wrote: Ever tried the simulate button in the orphaner frontend? I don't know apt-findremovable's UI but I very much like orphaner's. But then I might be just slightly biased. :) don't care about apt-findremovable anymore, debfoster does it's job much better :) Peter Jan

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-06 12:34:35, schrieb Steinar H. Gunderson: On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 02:42:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: And HOW do you install/remove packages if the TUI from aptitude crashs? You file a bug at the appropriate severity against aptitude? A bugreport about what? If I tell the

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-06 18:06:47, schrieb Mikhail Gusarov: Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude search'? Good question! The two offending Servers use Monocrom-Graficcards. Maybe aptitude can not enter a colormode and crash? Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-10 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:30:33PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: If aptitude kills your ssh session, I'd be inclined to believe more was wrong on your machine than just aptitude, but I guess that's up to whoever ends up debugging this to find out. The problem is, that the Servers

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-10 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:30:33PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: If I tell the Maintainer: I am connecting over ssh2 using keys to two of my servers in Tehran, I want to install something and I choose aptitude for better searching, aptitude crashs and kill the ssh session, he/she will close

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-03 16:26:46, schrieb Michal Cihar: deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. Anyway if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you don't have to guess. ...and if you have a computer on which aptitude do not want to run in the terminal? I have

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-04 16:00:28, schrieb Mike Hommey: Interesting... here, it tends to be the contrary. apt-get wants to install a whole lot of packages on dist-upgrade, while aptitude is able to pull the minimum required. Not here. Only the bare minimum. [ '/etc/apt/apt.conf'

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-04 18:08:50, schrieb Alexey Feldgendler: Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same as apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters. And HOW do you install/remove packages if the TUI from aptitude crashs? I do not know how aptitude is working

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-10-04 15:38:18, schrieb Rolf Kutz: apt-get is faster and uses less resources. I have a IBM TP760ED (233Mhz, 128 MB) where aptitude need arround 3 minutes to let me do anything... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 02:42:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: And HOW do you install/remove packages if the TUI from aptitude crashs? You file a bug at the appropriate severity against aptitude? I do not know how aptitude is working and whether it use ncurses or slang but it segfaults all

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: MK ...and if you have a computer on which aptitude do not want to MK run in the terminal? I have two Servers where this is the case. Do aptitude checks terminal even for 'aptitude install' or 'aptitude search'? -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-06 Thread Ben Finney
Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am 2006-10-04 18:08:50, schrieb Alexey Feldgendler: Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same as apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters. And HOW do you install/remove packages if the TUI from

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-05 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Brian May wrote: Jan == Jan Kechel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan I wrote a little perl-script: How does this compare with deborphan? deborphan shows you the 'leave' packages of your dependency-tree apt-findremovable checks for a

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Steinar H. Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:13:49PM +0200, Jan Kechel wrote: I always had the problem, that if I removed a package via apt-get remove, that there were still other packages that only were installed because of that package. Use aptitude

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: Cool, didn't know that. But it doesn't work for packages that are already installed via apt-get. I guess I'll use aptitude instead of apt-get from now on, and try to cleanup via apt-findremovable :) Some of us are partial to apt-get and would

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate apt-findremovable. I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information of which packages have been explicitely installed and which have

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate apt-findremovable. I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information of which

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:08:50 +0200, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate apt-findremovable. I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Wednesday 04 October 2006 13:08, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Why not just stop using apt-get? aptitude can do everything the same as apt-get and even supports the same command line parameters. aptitude neither understand build-dep nor source as command... regards, Holger

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 aptitude has this apt has that aptitude can't do that apt can't do this [...] .. is this always here like this? Isn't it just that some prefer apt and some aptitude, and that of course those that prefer aptitude think that

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 02:46:39PM +0200, Jan Kechel wrote: Isn't it just that some prefer apt and some aptitude, and that of course those that prefer aptitude think that apt-findremovable is obsolete, and that those that prefer apt not? Just a bit more nitpicking: apt is different from

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Alexey Feldgendler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate apt-findremovable. I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information of which

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:50:59PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2006, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate apt-findremovable.

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 01:07:02PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude share the information of which packages have been explicitely installed and which have been automatically installed. I often install packages to play with them a little or just

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 10:23:21PM +0700, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Seems like debfoster does what you need. However, it's considered obsolete now that aptitude takes care of unused packages. debfoster (2.6-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Brian May
Jan == Jan Kechel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan I wrote a little perl-script: How does this compare with deborphan? Package: deborphan Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 176 Maintainer: Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 1.7.15 Depends: libc6 (=

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-04 Thread Brian May
Alexey == Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alexey On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:07:02 +0700, Raphael Hertzog Alexey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate apt-findremovable. I would rather appreciate that apt-get and aptitude

apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi, I hope this is the right mailinglist for this. I always had the problem, that if I removed a package via apt-get remove, that there were still other packages that only were installed because of that package. I wrote a little perl-script:

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:13:49PM +0200, Jan Kechel wrote: I always had the problem, that if I removed a package via apt-get remove, that there were still other packages that only were installed because of that package. Use aptitude -- it has had this functionality for quite a while now. /*

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:13:49 +0200 Jan Kechel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does a tool like this already exist? deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. Anyway if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you don't have to guess. -- Michal Čihař |

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Michal Čihař wrote: deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. yeah, similar, also it finds only the leaves, while apt-findremovable checks which depends have no other rdepends than the specified one Anyway if you use aptitude instead of

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:54:09 +0700, Jan Kechel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. yeah, similar, also it finds only the leaves, while apt-findremovable checks which depends have no other rdepends than the specified one Seems like debfoster does what you

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/06 09:54, Jan Kechel wrote: Michal ihaY wrote: deborphan looks simmilar to what you describe. yeah, similar, also it finds only the leaves, while apt-findremovable checks which depends have no other rdepends than the specified one

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Jan Kechel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate apt-findremovable. cool :) I just released v0.2: http://prevalent-digest.de/apt-findremovable/ .. it's getting slower (takes about 1min to complete), but now it re-checks, if apt-cache

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)
Jan Kechel: Michal Čihař wrote: Anyway if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you don't have to guess. Cool, didn't know that. But it doesn't work for packages that are already installed via apt-get. You can mark all packages as installed automatically

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/06 11:01, Jan Kechel wrote: Some of us are partial to apt-get and would appreciate apt-findremovable. cool :) I just released v0.2: http://prevalent-digest.de/apt-findremovable/ .. it's getting slower (takes about 1min to

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 03 Oktober 2006 16:26 schrieb Michal Čihař: if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you don't have to guess. Only if you also installed the package-to-remove with aptitude. HS

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Michal Čihař
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:34:37 +0200 Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Dienstag 03 Oktober 2006 16:26 schrieb Michal Čihař: if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you don't have to guess. Only if you also installed the package-to-remove with

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h * Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) [Tue, Oct 03 2006, 05:11:46PM]: Jan Kechel: Michal Čihař wrote: Anyway if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it tracks all that automatically and you don't have to guess. Cool, didn't know that. But it doesn't work for packages that are

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 10:23:21PM +0700, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Seems like debfoster does what you need. However, it's considered obsolete now that aptitude takes care of unused packages. debfoster (2.6-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream version, new maintainer team. * Revert

Re: apt-findremovable v0.1 (initial release)

2006-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/03/06 13:37, Eduard Bloch wrote: #include hallo.h * Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) [Tue, Oct 03 2006, 05:11:46PM]: Jan Kechel: Michal Čihař wrote: [snip] Aha... Ok... And how many cobolds do you need to kill to win that game? (SCNR)