Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:57:50AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: The usefulness of supporting --as-needed isn't because of Ubuntu. It's because switching --as-needed on across the board I think it would be better send all our upstreams patches for their build systems than to work around

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Colin Watson wrote: Linking in the correct order is not a workaround; it's being correct. I wasn't talking about link-order stuff but about dependency inflation; binaries linking against libraries that aren't used by the binaries linking against them. IIRC this

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: I wasn't talking about link-order stuff but about dependency inflation; binaries linking against libraries that aren't used by the binaries linking against them. IIRC this is the purpose of --as-needed and what it works around. To clarify further, I think

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, WTF? On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 01:18:18AM +, Debian FTP Masters wrote: Changed-By: Andreas Moog am...@ubuntu.com [...] away (0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2) unstable; urgency=low . * Non-maintainer upload - d/p/01_fix_makefile: $LIBS need to come after $SRC while linking to fix

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Andreas Moog
On 25.10.2013 08:23, Rene Engelhard wrote: A NMU for a MINOR bug is NOT something which should be done. I quietly accepted the dbs one, but this is over the line. I can understand your rage, but to be clear: I only submitted the bug and patch, I didn't ask for it to be nmu'ed and was as

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Hello, On 25 October 2013 07:23, Rene Engelhard r...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 01:18:18AM +, Debian FTP Masters wrote: Changed-By: Andreas Moog am...@ubuntu.com [...] away (0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2) unstable; urgency=low . * Non-maintainer upload -

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:46:09AM +0200, Andreas Moog wrote: As you can see from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/away/0.9.5+ds-0+nmu1ubuntu1 I did fix it in Ubuntu. Please direct your rage at the person who took the patch, created a false changelog and uploaded it to Debian. This may be

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Simon McVittie
On 25/10/13 10:09, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: Changed-By: Andreas Moog am...@ubuntu.com ... I sponsored Andreas' patch as NMU, on my own initiative. I don't think it's appropriate to consider a patch in the BTS to be a request for sponsorship. In future please take responsibility for the decision

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Wookey
+++ Rene Engelhard [2013-10-25 08:23 +0200]: Hi, WTF? On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 01:18:18AM +, Debian FTP Masters wrote: Changed-By: Andreas Moog am...@ubuntu.com [...] away (0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2) unstable; urgency=low . * Non-maintainer upload - d/p/01_fix_makefile: $LIBS

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:32:55AM +0100, Wookey wrote: Really? This is boring stuff that needs doing. I would be grateful if someone did it for me on one of my packages, assuming they didn't break anything. Updating to new upstream versions for tiny packages like this is also boring. You

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Colin Watson
[Not defending the rather odd NMU practice here, but ...] On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:57:24PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: Until then there's no action needed to make it work in Debian. Debian is not Ubuntus development platform, so why should one NMU stuff for this when it's not needed in

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Colin Watson wrote: The usefulness of supporting --as-needed isn't because of Ubuntu. It's because switching --as-needed on across the board I think it would be better send all our upstreams patches for their build systems than to work around all the bugs in

Re: away_0.9.5+ds-0+nmu2_multi.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2013-10-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:51:41AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Colin Watson wrote: The usefulness of supporting --as-needed isn't because of Ubuntu. It's because switching --as-needed on across the board I think it would be better send all our upstreams