Bug#363486: marked as done (dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.)

2008-09-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:43:19 +0200 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line implemented elsewhere already (or please file seperate bugs if thats not enough) has caused the Debian Bug report #363486, regarding dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-15 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 03:06:09 +0300, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote: I don't see real obstacle here. Granted that the alternatives system should be extended to look for $HOME/debian/alternatives Before checking /etc/laternatives Perhaps I should file a wishlist for it. Please

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le mercredi 14 juin 2006 à 01:33 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : If you open a file in a file browser, or you open it thru a web browser or something, it might have a mime type assosiated with it. So what I think you suggest is that based on the mime-type we start an application that

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-14 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 01:53:29AM +0300, Jari Aalto+mail.linux wrote: Command line usage (or from Window manager menu): call: x-spreadsheet How would this be different from using the already-existing run-mailcap command? And what happens if 95% of time I want to use one application as

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-14 Thread Jari Aalto+usenet
* Wed 2006-06-14 Thibaut Paumard paumard AT users.sourceforge.net * Message-Id: 1150288566.1225.141.camel AT pc-paumard.mpe-garching.mpg.de Le mercredi 14 juin 2006 à 01:33 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : Why not have something that starts the proper program according to the given mimetype?

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-14 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 6/14/06, Jari Aalto+usenet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing, when etc/mailcap entry reads: application/msexcel; oocalc '%s'; edit=oocalc '%s What happens then 'oocalc' is not available? How is the error handling done, so that e.g. 'xmessage' is displayed under Window mamager to notify

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-13 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 6/12/06, Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if the alternatives system is the best place to register mime types. I'm also not sure that a Debian specific solution as the alternatives system is the best way to go. But I can see why this would be useful, and maybe it should

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 12 juin 2006 à 20:44 +0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : I think you're not very clear in what you're asking, so I'm going to try and explain what I think you said. If you open a file in a file browser, or you open it thru a web browser or something, it might have a mime type assosiated

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-13 Thread Jari Aalto+mail.linux
* Tue 2006-06-13 Josselin Mouette joss AT debian.org * Message-Id: 1150231486.17236.21.camel AT utena.localnet Le lundi 12 juin 2006 à 20:44 +0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : I think you're not very clear in what you're asking, so I'm going to try and explain what I think you said. If you open a

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-13 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 14. Juni 2006 00:53 schrieb Jari Aalto+mail.linux: * Tue 2006-06-13 Josselin Mouette joss AT debian.org * Message-Id: 1150231486.17236.21.camel AT utena.localnet Le lundi 12 juin 2006 à 20:44 +0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : I think you're not very clear in what you're asking, so

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-13 Thread Jari Aalto+mail.linux
* Wed 2006-06-14 Hendrik Sattler debian AT hendrik-sattler.de The proposal here talks about differnt thing, but indirectly concerns the mime types, which are used to associate actions to certain file extensions. Why not have something that starts the proper program according to the given

Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Jari Aalto
| Guillem Jover [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | reassign 363486 debian-policy | | each package should agree on which interface is needed to be able to | provide a specific alternative. And if they should provide a virtual | package for it. | | On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 14:44:08 +0300, Jari Aalto wrote: |

Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 6/12/06, Jari Aalto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any coordinated effort to standardize the name of the provided programs in /etc/alternatives? I don't think this concerns debian-policy at all. The use of alternatives is something that needs to be coordinated amont the maintainers of

Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
an off-topic question: why x-office-word, x-office-excel, etc? are these trying to express the replacement for microsoft windows word, excel ? or is this what text documents or spreadsheet documents being called? -- Fred On 6/12/06, Margarita Manterola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/12/06,

Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Jari Aalto
| an off-topic question: | | why x-office-word, x-office-excel, etc? | are these trying to express the replacement for microsoft windows | word, excel ? | or is this what text documents or spreadsheet documents being called? It's almost industry standard to refer to Word as the word processor

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 12:53:57PM +0300, Jari Aalto wrote: | | The same problem is with Office programs: | |lyx |abiword |oowriter |... | | The /etc/alternatives contains a good framework to canonicalize actions to | common names available in system and to

dpkg update

2006-03-11 Thread John Gee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) aowdDBQFEEAQnW5ql+IAeqTIRAlkd6AJsGQ82Bn79PukWYEdsVsBRFeAzAowCgmRdN WauYdVaZFXVlBRP/M5l+SmQ= =VcTX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Guys honestly why aren't we as developers doing a massive overhaul on dpkg? I feel we are running on

Re: dpkg update

2006-03-11 Thread Michael Koch
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 12:06:40PM -0800, John Gee wrote: Guys honestly why aren't we as developers doing a massive overhaul on dpkg? I feel we are running on pre-historic machines here. There needs to be at least a little looking toward the future in our blood. What exactly are you missing

Re: dpkg update

2006-03-11 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 09:31:29PM +0100, Michael Koch wrote: On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 12:06:40PM -0800, John Gee wrote: Guys honestly why aren't we as developers doing a massive overhaul on dpkg? I feel we are running on pre-historic machines here. There needs to be at least a little

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-23 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 02:05:26PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: in any case, i don't see it as a problem. IMO, the fact that they have different package names is USEFUL information. it tells me that there's something possibly weird or dangerous going on and i should be extra careful before i

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
First of all: please use a standard textwidth of at most 76. Right now your mail frankly looks horrible. Only due to vim's awesome reformating power is sending a reply doable :) Previously fantumn Steven Baker wrote: Package Naming Scheme --- The current naming scheme of

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 11:36:00PM -0500, Andrew Pimlott wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:03:26PM -0500, fantumn Steven Baker wrote: Package Naming Scheme The problem is superficial. Sure, names should be more uniform, but all this requires is 1) ratifying naming standards and 2) ensuring

Re: how rpm does it (Re: Dpkg Update Proposal)

1999-01-22 Thread Steve Dunham
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I said before, rpm does have the capability to install 2 different versions of a package simulantaneously. Here's how it works, to the best of my knowledge. User interface: Rpm differentiates between installing a package and upgrading a package.

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
Craig Sanders wrote: i agree. in fact, it's more like a solution searching for a problem than even a superficial problem. It's a problem that is only evident to people who haven't lived with it for years. That doesn't mean it's not a problem. from the descriptions that have been posted of how

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:02:55AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Craig Sanders wrote: i agree. in fact, it's more like a solution searching for a problem than even a superficial problem. It's a problem that is only evident to people who haven't lived with it for years. That doesn't mean it's

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Jules Bean
On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Craig Sanders wrote: the libgtk* versions are compatible with each other. the libgtk*-dev versions, are not (it would be possible to make it so by installing header files in /usr/include/gtk-VERSION, but you'd still have to modify every source file that #included it. in

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-22 Thread Joey Hess
Craig Sanders wrote: 300 sounds like a lot...are you including all shared libs and -dev and -altdev packages? No, I was just including everything that ended with a number. That excludes the -dev packages and it probably includes some things that don't belong. As I said, it's a crude count. in

Re: how rpm does it (Re: Dpkg Update Proposal)

1999-01-21 Thread Anthony Wong
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 03:42:15PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: | |So rpm's method of upgrading is the same as dpkg -i, whereas dpkg has nothing |equivilant to rpm's method of just installing a package. | |Oh and by the way, this user interface tends to confuse new users (at least |it did me) who

Re: how rpm does it (Re: Dpkg Update Proposal)

1999-01-21 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Wong wrote: |Oh and by the way, this user interface tends to confuse new users (at least |it did me) who accidentially install many versions of the same package |because they arn't aware they should be upgrading it instead. Because you already have the Debian way in your mind when

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-21 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 04:03:26PM -0500, fantumn Steven Baker wrote: Package Naming Scheme The problem is superficial. Sure, names should be more uniform, but all this requires is 1) ratifying naming standards and 2) ensuring that the packaging system handles name changes gracefully. CVS

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-21 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Andrew Pimlott wrote: ... Hmmm, would the concept of meta-packages and a scheme for sharing common files (like the RH one described?) work. Packages could have their name extended with the version: foo_1.2.3-1 - foo_1.2.3 foo_1.2.3-2 - foo_1.2.3 foo_1.2.4-1 - foo_1.2.4 and

Re: how rpm does it (Re: Dpkg Update Proposal)

1999-01-21 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! Joey Hess writes: JH What happens if you try to install version bar of a package while JH version foo of that same package, which contains files of the JH same name, is installed? Rpm will happily overwrite version foo's JH files. Yes. JH What happens if you then remove version foo?

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-20 Thread Joey Hess
fantumn Steven Baker wrote: have this little g (imlib and fnlib come to mind). Since libc5 exists for the most part only in the hearts of the Slackware users, this 'g' thing can be dropped. No it can't. Please consider backwards compatability. Another problem with this is that many

Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-20 Thread fantumn \(Steven Baker\)
Okay, I posted to -devel a few weeks back with a proposal for an update to dpkg. This message is being Cc'd to -devel, and sent to -dpkg. Basically, attached is my proposal (it's long, I'm trimming it down in another rxvt, but, I wanted to get something out for the firing sqaud). Please read

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, fantumn == fantumn \(Steven Baker\) fantumn writes: What is wrong with cvs-buildpackage? I maintain all my packages in CVS, and there is a well defined version based tagging scheme. What exactly are you attempting to solve here that has not already been solved? fantumn

Re: Dpkg Update Proposal

1999-01-20 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: What exactly are you attempting to solve here that has not already been solved? He's trying to solve the fact that we have package names like libgtk1.1.11 and slang0.99.38. Why do CVS based packages need a special name? I am missing something here. Do

how rpm does it (Re: Dpkg Update Proposal)

1999-01-20 Thread Joey Hess
As I said before, rpm does have the capability to install 2 different versions of a package simulantaneously. Here's how it works, to the best of my knowledge. User interface: Rpm differentiates between installing a package and upgrading a package. Installing a package (rpm -i) simply unpacks