Hi,
Michael Biebl:
I'm also no longer convinced, that running a huge shell machinery (as
root) during login via PAM is a good idea.
In fact, I'm convinced that it is _not_ a good idea.
You want to be able to log in as root when the system has problems.
Like, being slow as molasses or
Am 22.01.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Steve McIntyre:
parav...@debian.org wrote:
- pam_motd provides a facility (via a custom patch, brought over by
Ubuntu) that run-parts /etc/update-motd.d. The directory exists in
Ubuntu (along with default scripts that set Ubuntu's motd) but not in
Debian,
parav...@debian.org wrote:
- pam_motd provides a facility (via a custom patch, brought over by
Ubuntu) that run-parts /etc/update-motd.d. The directory exists in
Ubuntu (along with default scripts that set Ubuntu's motd) but not in
Debian, although https://wiki.debian.org/motd documents it.
Am 22.01.2015 um 16:34 schrieb Michael Biebl:
Am 22.01.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Steve McIntyre:
AFAICS there remain silly unfixed bugs in the Ubuntu setup too, which
I've reported and never seen any progress on - see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+bug/684244
If you want to
Hi,
On 01/22/2015 04:34 PM, Michael Biebl wrote:
I'm also no longer convinced, that running a huge shell machinery (as
root) during login via PAM is a good idea.
If we go the update-motd route, I'd like to see the update-motd calls be
removed from login (and boot) and instead have the
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 04:16:44PM +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 07:08:22PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 04:20:36PM +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
c) base-files shipping /etc/update-motd.d, plus a script:
00-uname: #!/bin/sh\nuname
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 07:08:22PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 04:20:36PM +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
c) base-files shipping /etc/update-motd.d, plus a script:
00-uname: #!/bin/sh\nuname -snrvm\n
Could you please choose another package? debianutils comes to
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 04:16:44PM +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
What is your concern with shipping a simple executable shell script?
Actually, it's not the executable what does not belong to base-files,
it's the *functionality*.
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On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 11:56:44AM +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
as this seems to be only about including the output of `uname' in motd,
how about just *not* including it? I never found it to be particular
helpful anyway...
If you want to include information about the machine you are
On 01/02/2015 at 05:56 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Hi,
as this seems to be only about including the output of `uname' in
motd, how about just *not* including it? I never found it to be
particular helpful anyway...
If you want to include information about the machine you are
connecting
Hi,
as this seems to be only about including the output of `uname' in motd,
how about just *not* including it? I never found it to be particular
helpful anyway...
If you want to include information about the machine you are connecting
to, then the OS version, amount of RAM, number and speed of
Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net writes:
On Wed, 2014-12-31 at 12:04 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
I think UsePAM yes is the only sane default for Debian, though, and
people who choose to change that default are legitimately on their own.
I've used UsePAM no for many years
On 12/31/2014 03:20 PM, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
The changes are in total 2+1+3 lines, plus killing two files, so
relatively simple. On the flip side, this touches five
essential/required packages so it might be a bit too much for jessie's
freeze, although I also wonder if the current state of
On Wed, 2014-12-31 at 12:04 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
I think UsePAM yes is the only sane default for Debian, though, and people
who choose to change that default are legitimately on their own.
I've used UsePAM no for many years without any real issues, as you said
it depends what you want
motd handling spans multiple packages (libpam-modules, login, ssh,
base-files, initscripts, systemd) and multiple uncoordinated half-baked
attempts to take it to different directions have left the current state
of affairs a bit of a mess. Steve Langasek (rightfully) suggested on
#764841 to use
One should perhaps add:
On Wed, 2014-12-31 at 16:20 +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
- Behavior is different between login sshd. login has (#741129):
session optional pam_exec.so type=open_session stdout /bin/uname -snrvm
session optional pam_motd.so
but SSH has:
session optional
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 04:20:36PM +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
c) base-files shipping /etc/update-motd.d, plus a script:
00-uname: #!/bin/sh\nuname -snrvm\n
Could you please choose another package? debianutils comes to mind.
Currently, base-files has no binaries at all, and I'd like to
Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net writes:
For the OpenSSH server this is dependent on wheter UseLogin and/or
UsePAM directives are being used or not, the later which has a
configuration file default of yes in Debian (but not in upstream's
default config or default value).
I
Quoting Faidon Liambotis (parav...@debian.org):
For this to happen, we'll need:
Hoping that a consensus can be reached, I will, as the not so active
but last active shadow maintainer, follow whatever conclusion will be
reached in this discussion. I don't really have any other advice,
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