Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-22 Thread iceWave IT
I don't know how big your squidguard blacklists are (its a good idea to include details when asking questions), but the largest one I could find was 20MB [...] My biggest list is 22MB and gets daily updates. But because it uses much RAM when be loaded I check all entrys one time per week so

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Samuelson
Anyway, rsync sounds like the most appropriate mechanism to transfer these particular databases. [iceWave IT] My blacklists should be available for everyone not only for those who can connect with my server via ssh... rsync doesn't require ssh; for your scenario you probably just want

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-21 Thread iceWave IT
A DNSBL is the traditional solution for blacklists, why are you putting your blacklist in a .deb? I meant blacklists specially for squidguard. That are hughe files with domains / URLs inside. So e.g. porn could be blocked in your network. What if a node misses an update, then? And what if

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Wise
I don't know how big your squidguard blacklists are (its a good idea to include details when asking questions), but the largest one I could find was 20MB, much smaller than some of the packages I maintain in Debian, let alone the largest package in Debian. Anyway, rsync sounds like the most

realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-20 Thread iceWave IT
Hi ;) I would like to imagine a time approach, could be made easier with the updates. With daily changing databases like virus database, blacklists, card or similar is always a part of the old data is erased as new data are added. Programs such as clamav bring it with their own update client.

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Wise
In what specific situation did you want to use something like this? I'm having a hard time imagining an appropriate use-case for this solution. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-20 Thread iceWave IT
I'd like use this for Antivirus-Databases, Blacklists, etc. - Anything that supports many updates in short time for huge datasets. The reason for this is, that: 1. Every update would produce much bandwith, because for every update the complete database has to be downloaded by aptitude. 2. On

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Wise
I asked for a specific place you want to use it, rather than some general ideas. I don't think a generalised mechanism can work in the situations you are thinking of, per-database mechanisms are the way to go really. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-20 Thread iceWave IT
Ok here is the specific place: I've got blacklists, some with over 1 million entries, so the .deb packages have a big size. Debdelta doesn't function good, because so the whole list would be uninstalled and the new list installed. For all 2 million transactions this needs lots of time. And I

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 01:52:55AM +0100, iceWave IT wrote: Ok here is the specific place: I've got blacklists, some with over 1 million entries, so the .deb packages have a big size. Debdelta doesn't function good, because so the whole list would be uninstalled and the new list

Re: realise diff-updates with dpkg

2013-02-20 Thread Paul Wise
A DNSBL is the traditional solution for blacklists, why are you putting your blacklist in a .deb? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org