Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 02:46:09PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Raul Miller wrote: Also, if you can anticipate any failure modes where sash would damage the password file I'd appreciate hearing about them. It's already the case that if sash has any problem writing out the new password file

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 06:02:47PM -0400, Greg Johnson wrote: Here's one (happend to me). I have a '+' at the end of my /etc/passwd file for nis. sash tried to add the new root acccount at teh end of /etc/passwd AFTER the +. didn't work. That was sash 3.3-5 Sash 3.3-6 already addresses

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-20 Thread Raul Miller
Raul Miller wrote: They don't touch the root account. Instead, they clone it as sashroot and set the shell on the cloned account. This is mentioned in the package description. On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 03:39:30PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: I suppose you have considered the security

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-20 Thread Tamas TEVESZ
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Raul Miller wrote: There's not a lot I can do about this beyond advising the sysadmin that it's a good idea. what about asking it before doing the actual cloning ? (should be defaulted to no, imho). as i see the postinst for 3.3-6, it does not ask... -- [-]

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-20 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 10:53:01PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Raul Miller wrote: They don't touch the root account. Instead, they clone it as sashroot and set the shell on the cloned account. This is mentioned in the package description. On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 03:39:30PM -0700,

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 01:37:43PM -0400, Andrew Pimlott wrote: Will this affect people who upgrade? It would be very unpleasant to upgrade from slink and have a new root user. Hmmm... Even for new installs, I disagree with your decision. sash is useful without another root account; however

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-20 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote: Also, if you can anticipate any failure modes where sash would damage the password file I'd appreciate hearing about them. It's already the case that if sash has any problem writing out the new password file that it won't install it. I think you should just use useradd to

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-20 Thread Greg Johnson
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 02:20:12PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Also, if you can anticipate any failure modes where sash would damage the password file I'd appreciate hearing about them. It's already the case that if sash has any problem writing out the new password file that it won't install

sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:45:32PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: FYI, sash_3.3-5 (which has been sitting in Incoming for the last couple weeks) no longer prompts at postinst time, as the postinst/prerm scripts have been completely redesigned. On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 07:18:09AM +1000, Craig

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-19 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 06:30:37PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:45:32PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: FYI, sash_3.3-5 (which has been sitting in Incoming for the last couple weeks) no longer prompts at postinst time, as the postinst/prerm scripts have been completely

Re: sash (was Re: demo vs. real package: FYI (was ...))

1999-09-19 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote: They don't touch the root account. Instead, they clone it as sashroot and set the shell on the cloned account. This is mentioned in the package description. I suppose you have considered the security problems, if root forgets to change that password when they change the