On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:06:17PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> Hi Tomas,
>
> Great you like it! Many people are busy working on smoothing the edges
> uncovered by all the inflowing bugreports, so the occasional "thanks!"
> is a nice boost to troop morale. :)
Btw, debian is the only complex
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:06:17PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> Hi Tomas,
>
> Great you like it! Many people are busy working on smoothing the edges
> uncovered by all the inflowing bugreports, so the occasional "thanks!"
> is a nice boost to troop morale. :)
I will second the thank you.. I
Matthias Urlichs writes:
> Hi,
>
> Philip Hands:
>> It seems to me that we could:
>>
>> Make systemd link runlevel 2 to graphical.target, and 3,4 & 5 to
>> multi-user.target, or perhaps in an attempt to be slightly less
>> confusing to outsiders, how about:
>> 2 & 5 --> graphical
>>
Hi,
Philip Hands:
> It seems to me that we could:
>
> Make systemd link runlevel 2 to graphical.target, and 3,4 & 5 to
> multi-user.target, or perhaps in an attempt to be slightly less
> confusing to outsiders, how about:
> 2 & 5 --> graphical
> 3 & 4 --> multi-user
>
Or we could
Felipe Sateler writes:
...
> This is indeed unfortunate. Because runlevel[234] are links to
> multi-user.target it means that distinctions between those runlevels are
> not preserved. It also means that the ability to differentiate between
> graphical.target and multi-user.target is almost lost
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 11:36:20 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 08:34:46 +0100, Matthias Urlichs
> wrote:
>>Marc Haber:
>>> It's learning and understanding more than just a few bizarre new
>>> concepts.
>>>
>>I learned. I (think I) understand. But I do not think these fancy new
>>con
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 08:34:46 +0100, Matthias Urlichs
wrote:
>Marc Haber:
>> It's learning and understanding more than just a few bizarre new concepts.
>>
>I learned. I (think I) understand. But I do not think these fancy new
>concepts are bizarre at all. If anything, they make my life way easier.
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 09:09:19 +0100, Matthias Urlichs
wrote:
>Marc Haber:
>> Which significantly changes things in Jessie since the majory of
>> services is still started via the old rcX.d mechanism, and thus
>> starting to runlevels behaves completely different from what users
>> expect.
>>
>Well
Hi,
Marc Haber:
> Which significantly changes things in Jessie since the majory of
> services is still started via the old rcX.d mechanism, and thus
> starting to runlevels behaves completely different from what users
> expect.
>
Well, I wouldn't expect runlevel 2 to start a graphical desktop eit
Hi,
Marc Haber:
> It's learning and understanding more than just a few bizarre new concepts.
>
I learned. I (think I) understand. But I do not think these fancy new
concepts are bizarre at all. If anything, they make my life way easier.
If anything, IMHO using words like "bizarre" isn't exactly
On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:33:08 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt
wrote:
>Marc Haber writes:
>> A few hours of reasearch later (which could have been a few minutes if
>> just the community would have been a bit more helpful) it turned out
>> they were right: We start kdm via an init script and sysvrc emulatio
Le vendredi 28 novembre 2014, 22:25:28 Marc Haber a écrit :
> We start kdm via an init script and sysvrc emulation,
> and this does actually break the distinction between multi-user.target
> and graphical.target.
Hi,
Here is a native kdm service I'v copied from an other distro months ago;
and use
On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:55:42 +0100, Philipp Kern
wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 07:08:09PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> And this facing a mostly hostile upstream and a Fedora-Centric
>> community.
>
>I have observed a mostly hostile Debian community in recent months. I'm not
>sure if this jab at F
Hi,
Marc Haber writes:
> A few hours of reasearch later (which could have been a few minutes if
> just the community would have been a bit more helpful) it turned out
> they were right: We start kdm via an init script and sysvrc emulation,
> and this does actually break the distinction between mu
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 07:08:09PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> And this facing a mostly hostile upstream and a Fedora-Centric
> community.
I have observed a mostly hostile Debian community in recent months. I'm not
sure if this jab at Fedora is particularly warranted.
Kind regards
Philipp Kern
On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:30:01 +0100, Matthias Urlichs
wrote:
>Marc Haber:
>> Updating of such systems has always been a pain, but this time it's
>> going to be a gazillion times more painful.
>>
>Why? (Seriously.)
Because this time fixing those things is more than just minor changes
in some init
Hi,
Marc Haber:
> Updating of such systems has always been a pain, but this time it's
> going to be a gazillion times more painful.
>
Why? (Seriously.)
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 23:50:08 +0800, Thomas Goirand
wrote:
>On 11/27/2014 09:22 PM, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
>> Yesterday I've upgraded my laptop with quite massive foreign package
>> sources and installations (qgis packages, backports, stuff from ubuntu
>> PPAs, nodejs, a dozen packages from jessie e
On Jo, 27 nov 14, 15:06:17, David Kalnischkies wrote:
>
> It's also not the worst idea to remove stuff from third party
> repositories before upgrading and only install them again after the
> upgrade. This way you can sure that they aren't interfering (something
> which can't be prevented and just
On 11/27/2014 09:22 PM, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> Yesterday I've upgraded my laptop with quite massive foreign package
> sources and installations (qgis packages, backports, stuff from ubuntu
> PPAs, nodejs, a dozen packages from jessie etc.) from wheezy to jessie.
That's probably why you had issues
Hi Tomas,
Great you like it! Many people are busy working on smoothing the edges
uncovered by all the inflowing bugreports, so the occasional "thanks!"
is a nice boost to troop morale. :)
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 02:22:14PM +0100, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> Allthough apt-get dist-upgrade broke half
Hello list,
I hope it's appropriate here, I just wanted to say *thanks to
everybody*, in particular the low level package and infrastructure
maintainers for the excellent work they've done.
Yesterday I've upgraded my laptop with quite massive foreign package
sources and installations (qgis packag
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