Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 08:44:04PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I don't think it would hurt if maintainers whose packages are in this state > > would email the relevant @buildd.debian.org addresses and cc: > > debian-release on the message -- n

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I don't think it would hurt if maintainers whose packages are in this state >> would email the relevant @buildd.debian.org addresses and cc: >> debian-release on the message -- now, rather than waitin

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-24 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 08:44:04PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > For example, if even *one* buildd maintainer doesn't requeue with some > kind of promptness, then the only way to deal with it will be to make > a new upload, which will force a recompile everywhere. This is only valid on arch

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-24 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think it would hurt if maintainers whose packages are in this state > would email the relevant @buildd.debian.org addresses and cc: > debian-release on the message -- now, rather than waiting for the buildds to > be fixed. Hopefully, this would

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 05:10:57PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:41:46PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > That won't help, especially not in this case. Those

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-24 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:17:59PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: >> * Thomas Bushnell BSG [Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:13:42 -0800]: >> > Do the buildd people read this list? How do we get this cleaned up? >> That's not relevant, really. What matters is if they r

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Screwing up in the postrm of a package in Build-Depends is about the >> worst you can do to the current buildd. It is pretty sure to cripple >> them all. The inability of buildds to rebuild thei

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Thomas Bushnell BSG [Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:10:57 -0800]: > >> ONCE IT'S CLEANED UP, what should I do to get the package rebuilt? >> Seems to me, I should requeue it. Nothing else is an advertised or >> reliable way. Even the @buildd.debian.org I'm now

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-24 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:35:50PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:13:42PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > > > Do the buildd people read this list? How do we get this cleaned up? > > > > As far as I can t

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Thomas Bushnell BSG [Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:10:57 -0800]: > ONCE IT'S CLEANED UP, what should I do to get the package rebuilt? > Seems to me, I should requeue it. Nothing else is an advertised or > reliable way. Even the @buildd.debian.org I'm now told is not > reliable. Thomas, just apply you

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ONCE IT'S CLEANED UP, what should I do to get the package rebuilt? > Seems to me, I should requeue it. Nothing else is an advertised or > reliable way. Even the @buildd.debian.org I'm now told is not > reliable. Which does bring up a second ques

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:41:46PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > That won't help, especially not in this case. Those who manage the > > > autobuilder are best suited to know when the autobuilder

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Adam Majer
Wouter Verhelst wrote: >On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:41:46PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > >>What I'm saying is that once it's cleaned up, I have two options: >> >>* ask for my package to be requeued; >>* do another upload. >> >>And I'm almost certain that the latter option is faster, and

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:41:46PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > That won't help, especially not in this case. Those who manage the > > autobuilder are best suited to know when the autobuilder will be fixed, > > since they are the ones who have

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ingo Juergensmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050223 22:55]: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:57:25PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > > See why the current buildd system is obsolete? > > I've never disagreed with the fact that the current buildd system is > > creaking. > > What would it take for m

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 10:56:06PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > or mail the appropriate buildd admin listed on http://buildd.net/ - > > maybe the addresses are not uptodate anymore, but that's because not > > all buildd admins cooperate... > Why not list this address at the end of each ar

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Ingo Juergensmann] > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > or mail the appropriate buildd admin listed on http://buildd.net/ - > maybe the addresses are not uptodate anymore, but that's because not > all buildd admins cooperate... Why not list this address at the end of each arch-specific log page? For

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:57:25PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > See why the current buildd system is obsolete? > I've never disagreed with the fact that the current buildd system is > creaking. > What would it take for multibuild to succeed? or something else? People who care and have

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:36:34PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > I'm not trying to grind an axe or complain, I'm seeking information > > and to move the process along expeditiously because it's blocking a > > lot more than just an xfree86 upgrade. > For example, once this is fixed, how do

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Screwing up in the postrm of a package in Build-Depends is about the > worst you can do to the current buildd. It is pretty sure to cripple > them all. The inability of buildds to rebuild their chroots from > scratch doesn't help. Shit happens, st

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > See why the current buildd system is obsolete? I've never disagreed with the fact that the current buildd system is creaking. What would it take for multibuild to succeed? or something else? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not complaining about the slow archs, and the m68k buildd failure > will surely be noticed. It has not, however, been retried. Why? It will most likely be retried manually on a large system. The wanna-build state is then usualy left as "buil

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:35:50PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > I'm not complaining about the slow archs, and the m68k buildd failure > will surely be noticed. It has not, however, been retried. Why? Because the buildds are currently doing other stuff? > I'm asking for *information*. H

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:22:59PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Moreover, because it seems to be extremely difficult to know who > > manages which buildd's and get responses from them, > > Have you tried @buildd.debian.org? Nope. This addre

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:22:59PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Moreover, because it seems to be extremely difficult to know who > manages which buildd's and get responses from them, Have you tried @buildd.debian.org? > I suspect that once it's cleaned up the fastest way to get my package

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not trying to grind an axe or complain, I'm seeking information > and to move the process along expeditiously because it's blocking a > lot more than just an xfree86 upgrade. For example, once this is fixed, how do I ask the buildd maintainers

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:13:42PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Do the buildd people read this list? How do we get this cleaned up? > > As far as I can tell you: the m68k buildd people will have noticed that > problem much earlier than

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 12:13:42PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Do the buildd people read this list? How do we get this cleaned up? As far as I can tell you: the m68k buildd people will have noticed that problem much earlier than you. Furthermore, I don't know if that's a problem of the

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:17:59PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Thomas Bushnell BSG [Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:13:42 -0800]: > > > Do the buildd people read this list? How do we get this cleaned up? > > That's not relevant, really. What matters is if they read their logs, > and they certainly d

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
* Thomas Bushnell BSG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) disait : > > So the new xfree86 has been built on most archs, but is still not > built on sparc, mips, and m68k. If that can help, I can test the build process under sparc, tell me if one more sparc box is welcome in the "test room" ;) Regards. --

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Adeodato Simà <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Thomas Bushnell BSG [Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:13:42 -0800]: > > > Do the buildd people read this list? How do we get this cleaned up? > > That's not relevant, really. What matters is if they read their logs, > and they certainly do. (So, no need to t

Re: the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Thomas Bushnell BSG [Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:13:42 -0800]: > Do the buildd people read this list? How do we get this cleaned up? That's not relevant, really. What matters is if they read their logs, and they certainly do. (So, no need to tell buildd admins the obvious, or at least that's wha

the ongoing xfree86 buildd saga

2005-02-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
So the new xfree86 has been built on most archs, but is still not built on sparc, mips, and m68k. The sparc and mips failures look like their buildd chroots are still corrupted. The m68k build ran out of disk space: ar clq libglx.a glx/?*.o ar: libglx.a: No space left on device make[6