Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
RFC 5230 in > Debian? > > Both "apt-cache search 5230" and "apt-cache search sieve vacation" only > return libnet-sieve-script-perl, which is more of a toolbox than an > actual sieve enabled MDA. Package dovecot-sieve - RFC 5230 is listed as "fully support

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-15 Thread Bjørn Mork
Ansgar Burchardt writes: > Bjørn Mork writes: > >> Care to provide a pointer to an example? > > RFC 5230, sections 4.2, 4.5, 4.6 and 8. Thanks for the pointer. Are there any implementations of RFC 5230 in Debian? Both "apt-cache search 5230" and "apt-cache s

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/14/2014 01:58 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > >> With mailbot from courier-maildrop, it's easy to do for a .mailfilter >> file (though it'd be once per recipient, which is IMO enough, I don't > > You have an interesting definition of "easy", Thomas

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): > With mailbot from courier-maildrop, it's easy to do for a .mailfilter > file (though it'd be once per recipient, which is IMO enough, I don't You have an interesting definition of "easy", Thomas..:-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 13, Ian Jackson wrote: > OK. I will take it. Would you prefer me to do an upload right away > to change the Maintainer or can it wait (weeks very likely) until I've > had a chance to do some actual work on it ? No hurry. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Marco d'Itri writes ("Re: removal of the vacation package"): > On Jan 12, Ian Jackson wrote: > > The set of bugs looks tractable to me. Do you have a half-prepared > > upload somewhere or is the versionn in the archive the most recent ? > > No, I have really

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
quot;voted". >> >>> If we do have such a >>> replacement (I just don't know) please mention it in the removal bug >>> report. >> I agree with waldi that the most simple replacement is a Sieve-enabled >> LDA. > > Is there such a beast with featu

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Bjørn Mork writes: > Ansgar Burchardt writes: >> Bjørn Mork writes: >>> Is there such a beast with feature parity? vacation has a few nice >>> defaults, like ignoring list mails and only sending one message per week >>> to each receiver. Having every end

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Bjørn Mork
Ansgar Burchardt writes: > Bjørn Mork writes: >> Is there such a beast with feature parity? vacation has a few nice >> defaults, like ignoring list mails and only sending one message per week >> to each receiver. Having every end user implement similar behaviour in >

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Bjørn Mork writes: > Is there such a beast with feature parity? vacation has a few nice > defaults, like ignoring list mails and only sending one message per week > to each receiver. Having every end user implement similar behaviour in > sieve isn't likely to happen. > >

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Bjørn Mork writes: > This doesn't look like a MIME bug to me. It looks like vacation > truncates multiline subjects. There is absolutely no reason it should > try to parse any MIME. Well, if you include the subject in the reply, it would nice if it would undo RFC 2047 enc

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Bjørn Mork
(I just don't know) please mention it in the removal bug >> report. > I agree with waldi that the most simple replacement is a Sieve-enabled > LDA. Is there such a beast with feature parity? vacation has a few nice defaults, like ignoring list mails and only sending one messa

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 12, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > It still seems to have a fair number of loyal users though. I see your popcon says 1867 have it installed, but only 222 "voted". > If we do have such a > replacement (I just don't know) please mention it in the removal bug > report. I agree with waldi that

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:00:45AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > but I wonder if we do have a decent replacement for it to > suggest to our users. Dovecot LDA supports Sieve and die vacation extension. Not sure if we have other stand-alone replacements. Bastian -- Emotio

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Marco d'Itri writes ("removal of the vacation package"): > I stopped maintaining it years ago and nobody ever bothered to ask me > about it... > It does not support MIME and a lot of other things that are required to > be a good citizen in today's Internet, so un

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t > I will request removal from the archive. It still seems to have a fair number of loyal users though. I see your points, but I wonder if we do have a decent replacement for it to suggest to our users. A replacement that is better than trying to mimic vacation by hand in procmail, and doing it wr

removal of the vacation package

2014-01-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
I stopped maintaining it years ago and nobody ever bothered to ask me about it... It does not support MIME and a lot of other things that are required to be a good citizen in today's Internet, so unless somebody has some really compelling arguments to keep it around and wants to adopt it I will

Bug#377556: ITP: sork-vacation-h3 -- autovacation module for Horde Framework

2006-07-09 Thread Gregory Colpart
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gregory Colpart (evolix) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: sork-vacation-h3 Version : 3.0 Upstream Author : The Horde Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.horde.org/vacation/ * License : Apache Lice

Vacation message from a NM

2006-06-21 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear friends! As I am no DD till now (still awaiting FD approval) I send my vac message here: Packages I am responsible for: texinfo, info cm-super(-x11) texlive-* I am leaving for more or less 5 weeks without any regular internet connection, and not the time to care for

Always get the lowest vacation, not a dream

2005-12-19 Thread travellers . dream . hunter
, the lowest price to go to Vegas, Bahamas, Barbados, Caribbean, Europe, France, or wherever? Expedia, Travelocity, Itravel2000, Priceline, Orbitz, Escapenow, Hotel.com. Who is offering the best deal? When are they offering the best deal? I have a fixed vacation schedule, when is the most

Benita Hsueh/Toronto/IBM is on Vacation and Working at IBM Brazil

2005-06-24 Thread Benita Hsueh
I will be out of the office starting 06/18/2005 and will not return until 07/01/2005. I will have limited access to email. If you need immediate assistance, please contact my DB2 Competitive Linux Technology and Enablement backup Melody Ng. For NextWave Issues or questions, please contact Paul R

Re: making vacation priority extra?

2005-01-17 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Andreas Barth wrote: > should the priority of vacation lowered to extra, given todays internet > world is a much unfriendlier place than at the time vacation was > created, and vacation might easily lead to problems? (Just for the > record, that suggestion was b

making vacation priority extra?

2005-01-17 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, should the priority of vacation lowered to extra, given todays internet world is a much unfriendlier place than at the time vacation was created, and vacation might easily lead to problems? (Just for the record, that suggestion was brought up by the maintainer, Marco d'Itri, on IRC,

[VACATION] .au Sydney 29.9(Today)/30.9

2003-09-29 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, i am in Sydney for Today and Tomorrow - So if any Debian enthusiasts is willing to go out for a Beer or Keysigning ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Heisenberg may have been here. pgpszBaWXKKTM.pgp Description:

vacation mail

2003-08-20 Thread vikasarora0011
mail recived

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Matt Ryan
>As opposed to plowing through your idiotic screed about how people >shouldn't have high standards, which is clearly not a waste of time >since it has important implications for how all developers maintain >their packages, right? Seems you couldn't resist helping me by extending the thread? But th

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 07:14:33AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Emile van Bergen wrote: > > However, I fail to understand why you want people to refrain from > > bringing the netiquette under the attention of the people they are > > receiving email from. > Never said they should refrain. I do think t

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 07:14:33AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Emile van Bergen wrote: > > However, I fail to understand why you want people to refrain from > > bringing the netiquette under the attention of the people they are > > receiving email from. > > Never said they should refrain. I do

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 20 May 2003 07:14:33 +0100, Matt Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I don't like school boy rules and I thought I'd tell everyone. Good manners are school boy rules? I suppose I would have liked you better when you were younger, then. manoj -- There ain't nothin' in this

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 19 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 10:17:40PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > (I'd quote a proverb about how small things lead to big things, but I > > can't currently think of any of those in English. :) > > "Look after the pennies and the pounds will take care of the

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Matt Ryan
Emile van Bergen wrote: > However, I fail to understand why you want people to refrain from > bringing the netiquette under the attention of the people they are > receiving email from. Never said they should refrain. I do think that it's a waste of time though. > IOW, if everybody just tries to a

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Miles Bader
"Matt Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > sending HTML emails its a general comment on people usage of the Internet. > If you can limit yourself to contacts who are technical enough to understand > the arguments why you don't like it then you can maintain the pretence that > it doesn't exist. Those

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 10:17:40PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > (I'd quote a proverb about how small things lead to big things, but I > can't currently think of any of those in English. :) "Look after the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves." Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 07:14:07PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > > Well, yeah, sure, but the highway analogy doesn't apply. There isn't a > > single technical reason why I as a random person need to ever be in any > > sort of contact with a spammer to keep the system running. > > There was no mention

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 07:14:07PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Josip Rodin wrote: > > Well, yeah, sure, but the highway analogy doesn't apply. There isn't a > > single technical reason why I as a random person need to ever be in any > > sort of contact with a spammer to keep the system running.

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Matt Ryan
Emile van Bergen wrote >I also don't understand the phrase "today's Internet world". You mean >with the hordes running Outlook and shopping on the clickable amazing >discoveries / quantum shopping / tell sell channel that's the WWW? Yes. If you have to interact with them to any great extent then i

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Matt Ryan
Josip Rodin wrote: > Well, yeah, sure, but the highway analogy doesn't apply. There isn't a > single technical reason why I as a random person need to ever be in any > sort of contact with a spammer to keep the system running. There was no mention of spammers in the thread! While they are prone to

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:26:38AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Emile van Bergen wrote: > > So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you > > cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? > > What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic and i

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 03:28:27PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > > Right now we're getting really damn close to anarchy, when everyone and > > their dog has the means to entirely obliterate everyone else's mailbox > > with unwanted whatever-they-have-to-say, and sometimes even obliterate > > their comp

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 07:26:34PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > I disagree. Once I've explained why I don't like HTML e-mail, people > normally see 'my side' and switch. And if they still don't see it, the following 'html' might convince them, at least if they use outlook (be careful. It is not h

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >It's very rare for me to have a HTML email that I actually want to read, I >probably should configure my mail server to reject them all. I have sendmail rules to do that. I may go back to rejecting multipart/alternative mail as well. (s

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 03:25:42PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Neil McGovern wrote: > > These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML > > e-mail in mutt. > You are figting a losing battle. Unfortunatly, this may be so, but the latest trend I personally have seen is away from H

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 18 May 2003 22:54:08 +0800, Cameron Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 11:38:14AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: >> These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read >> HTML e-mail in mutt. > Why not? Mutt deals perfectly well with HTML e-mail

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 18 May 2003 15:25:42 +0100, Matt Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Neil McGovern wrote: >> These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read >> HTML e-mail in mutt. > You are figting a losing battle. If the MUA that someone uses is > set-up to send HTML (rich test, whatever)

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 18 May 2003 10:26:38 +0100, Matt Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Emile van Bergen wrote: >> So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you >> cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? > What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 18 May 2003 15:30:52 +0100, Matt Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Andreas Metzler wrote: >> Hello, Which does not matter at all. "This memo does not specify an >> Internet standard of any kind." having it distributed as RFC is >> just a convenience, because searching for "rcf1855" on goog

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Matt Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic and > irrelevant in today's Internet world. Firstly I doubt any of the > people who violate the rules are even aware what an RFC is or what > it's for - and if they did they probably wouldn't

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
Matt Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andreas Metzler wrote: >> Hello, >> Which does not matter at all. "This memo does not specify an Internet >> standard of any kind." having it distributed as RFC is just a >> convenience, because searching for "rcf1855" on google will find >> perfect hits en ma

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:54:08PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 11:38:14AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > | These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML > | e-mail in mutt. > > Why not? Mutt deals perfectly well with HTML e-mail if you have lynx o

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 03:25:42PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Yes, but then if the majority of clients can send/recive HTML email, who has > the compatibility problem? It doesn't matter what the clients are able to do. The majority of readers on this list don't want HTML-postings. Just like they d

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 19 May 2003 00:25, Matt Ryan wrote: > Neil McGovern wrote: > > These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML > > e-mail in mutt. > > You are figting a losing battle. If the MUA that someone uses is set-up to > send HTML (rich test, whatever) email then you are highly

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 11:38:14AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: | These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML | e-mail in mutt. Why not? Mutt deals perfectly well with HTML e-mail if you have lynx or w3m installed on your system and have auto_view text/html in you

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Ryan
Andreas Metzler wrote: > Hello, > Which does not matter at all. "This memo does not specify an Internet > standard of any kind." having it distributed as RFC is just a > convenience, because searching for "rcf1855" on google will find > perfect hits en masse. Hello, Finding it is not the problem.

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Ryan
Neil McGovern wrote: > These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML > e-mail in mutt. You are figting a losing battle. If the MUA that someone uses is set-up to send HTML (rich test, whatever) email then you are highly unlikely to get them to change it. Some devices (cable

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Ryan
Josip Rodin wrote: > Right now we're getting really damn close to anarchy, when everyone and > their dog has the means to entirely obliterate everyone else's mailbox with > unwanted whatever-they-have-to-say, and sometimes even obliterate their > computer (with viruses). We have the ability to ann

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:26:38AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Society evolves and with it rules change, we need to accept this and see > what evolves - if it turns out to be bad then limits will have to be > applied, but I'm not seeing a complete state of anarchy break out yet... Right now we're ge

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:26:38AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Emile van Bergen wrote: > > So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you > > cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? > Society evolves and with it rules change, we need > to accept this and se

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
Matt Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Emile van Bergen wrote: >> So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you >> cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? > What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic and irrelevant in > today's Internet

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Ryan
Emile van Bergen wrote: > So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you > cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic and irrelevant in today's Internet world. Firstly I doubt any of the people who

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-17 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 05:57:31PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > [He who should not be named wrote] > > That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and > > adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the > contents > > of many messages). Refer to RFC

Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-17 Thread Matt Ryan
[He who should not be named wrote] > That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and > adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents > of many messages). Refer to RFC 1855 or any other netiquette document for > further information. With stat

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 15 May 2003 14:37, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Ahem. Your email wouls have to contain a few highly unlikely phrases to be > classified as "uncertain" by me. FWIW, yours ends up as > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-42.6 required=5.0 Sorry, if you are only using that when spamassasin records it as

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
Clay Crouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My most humble apologies. > It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community > shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to > evolve with it. The culture you now enjoy is not the one I left. > I truly didn't expect to be at

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I would. If I ever get a message like that, I would be > grateful -- It'll allow me to add yet another obnoxious auto-reply to > my spam filters. Well, thanks for the feedback. > Rest assured you shall never get email from me, or any official > posiiton I

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 15 May 2003 05:27, Chad Walstrom wrote: > It is a shame that such a simple scuffle on-list has sent you packing. Someone who gives up so easily would never last. Everyone gets flamed on occasion, if you can't deal with it you can't survive on a popular mailing list. The Internet is not

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 15 May 2003 07:17, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > "Hello. My spam protection system is unsure about your message. Since > you're reading this, your email isn't spam ;-) -- please either sign your > emails to me, or send a short confirmation to the address -abqux > at so that and your mails will

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 14 May 2003 23:17:07 +0200, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to "spam status dubious" >>> messages, I wouldn't call them obnoxious. >> >> I am not sure I understand. If such a message is sent to me, I >> cert

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to "spam status dubious" messages, >> I wouldn't call them obnoxious. > > I am not sure I understand. If such a message is sent to me, I > certainly find them obnoxious. That's why I said "I". Personal tastes differ, but

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Clay Crouch wrote: > Five percent failure, eh? Try zero percent, with zero false positives. This may be a stupid question, but how do you KNOW that you have zero false positives (i.e. mail classified as spam which isn't) if you redirect it to /dev/null? -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Consu

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Chad Walstrom wrote: > IIRC, the debian-devel mailing list has always been a no-nonsense forum. > Honestly, the anti-spam technique you employ is very simple, but also > very draconic, in-flexible, and rude. It is far better to set up some > sort of cookie handshake autorespo

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:10:08PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > I truly didn't expect to be attacked on my first post. I also truly > didn't expect to be further lambasted from all quarters for responding > to them. IIRC, the debian-devel mailing list has always been a no-nonsense forum. Honestly,

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Clay Crouch wrote: > Folks, > > My most humble apologies. Doubt that. You haven't changed your ways. > It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community > shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to > evolve with it. The culture you now enjo

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:10:08PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community > shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to > evolve with it. The culture you now enjoy is not the one I left. Eh? Culture? Look, your anti-spam mea

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Clay Crouch
Folks, My most humble apologies. It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to evolve with it. The culture you now enjoy is not the one I left. I truly didn't expect to be attacked on my first post. I also truly did

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 14 May 2003 14:27, Clay Crouch wrote: > Hmmm An ettiquette lesson before a "welcome back" and a work > assignemnt, just because you find my anti-spam measures draconian and my > filter bypass info in my sig to be annoying. When such lessons are needed they should be dealt with first.

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:45:48 +0200, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi, > Matt Zimmerman wrote: >> Or do you send one of those obnoxious autoreplies asking people to >> confirm their messages to you? > FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to "spam status dubious" > messages, I would

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > *plonk* > *plonk* > Can the QA team use an additional 5-20 hours a week of volunteer help > from an already-registered Developer? Could the Project use another > Alpha autobuilder? If not The Project always needs more help, but

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Or do you send one of those obnoxious autoreplies asking people to > confirm their messages to you? FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to "spam status dubious" messages, I wouldn't call them obnoxious. I agree, though, that an auto-bit-bucket, which doesn't _at_leas

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 13 May 2003 23:27:31 -0500, Clay Crouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hmmm An ettiquette lesson before a "welcome back" and a work > assignemnt, just because you find my anti-spam measures draconian > and my filter bypass info in my sig to be annoying. > Charming, to be sure > Ple

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Peter Makholm
Clay Crouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:48:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: >> That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and >> adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents >> of many messages). > Pleased to

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:11:45AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > > > Can the QA team use an additional 5-20 hours a week of volunteer help > > from an already-registered Developer? > > I'm afraid they can't hear you. They have their

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > I hate to start off my return to the Project this way, but I just can't let > this one go unanswered. :^( Perhaps not, but you could have answered more civilly. A triumphant return, indeed. But, if we must... > On Tue, May 13, 2003

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Clay Crouch
*sigh* I hate to start off my return to the Project this way, but I just can't let this one go unanswered. :^( On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:48:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:05:38PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > > > And please don't be offended by the .sig. > > That

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:05:38PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > And please don't be offended by the .sig. That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents of many messages). Refer to RFC 1855 or a

Coming back from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Clay Crouch
Folks, Things have finally settled down, and I once again have some spare time to devote to Debian after a 2-year absence The new sysadmin job is going well. The new child is growing up. The new house is now home. The Everquest Addiction(tm) has faded. Etc. :^) For the time being, I am getti

Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Clay Crouch
Folks, Things have finally settled down, and I once again have some spare time to devote to Debian after a 2-year absence The new sysadmin job is going well. The new child is growing up. The new house is now home. The Everquest Addiction(tm) has faded. Etc. :^) For the time being, I am getti

Re: errno=4294936306, Debian 2.2, vacation 3.2.3, Postfix 1.1.3, Sasl 1.5.27

2002-08-28 Thread Jim Weller
All, And the virtual beer goes to Ralf Hildebrandt for spotting the .vacation.db problem. It turns out that the tool I was using to set my .vacation.msg, .vacation.db, and .forward (vacation admin for webmin http://webmin.thirdpartymodules.com/?page=System ) was NOT executing 'vacati

Re: errno=4294936306, Debian 2.2, vacation 3.2.3, Postfix 1.1.3, Sasl 1.5.27

2002-08-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
[Removed postfix-users.] >>What vacation is that, it seems very small, my binary on Linux is >>45521b This is not Sean Rima's package but a port of the netbsd source with a few features added. (I have no idea about what is wrong with libdb and not time to investigate it

Re: errno=4294936306, Debian 2.2, vacation 3.2.3, Postfix 1.1.3, Sasl 1.5.27

2002-08-28 Thread Jim Weller
Sean, Thank you for taking the time to look at my problem. Can you add/change to \jim, "/pathto/strace -o /tmp/vacation.err /usr/bin/vacation jim" That is a GREAT idea. I changed it to the below and ran &#

errno=4294936306, Debian 2.2, vacation 3.2.3, Postfix 1.1.3, Sasl 1.5.27

2002-08-28 Thread Jim Weller
eve). This gave SEGV errors to sasl and consequently postfix. I recompiled both from the ORIGINAL source tree I used so many months ago and am back on track with my mail server authing smtp. But the real KILLER here is that vacation-3.2.3 doesn't work now! It did work before the apt-get upg

vacation

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
I'll be off for a few days, so I may not be able to answer the posts in RFC: pools... thread. Happy New Year!! -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo

Going to vacation, make NMUs if needed

2000-09-05 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Hi all I am going to vacation for the next 3 weeks, so if there is anything wrong with one of my packages (pptpd, logcheck, mkinitrd-cd) then please feel free to do NMUs. best greets, Rene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

I'm back from vacation now

1999-05-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
As the subject already says, I'm back from my vacation again. I had a really good time, I'ld like to thank Konstantinos Margaritis (aka as Feanor on irc) for acting as our tour guide through Athens. I'm slowly working my way through about 4000 emails now. If you feel something

Vacation for one week

1999-05-19 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Hi, I'm going on vacation tomorrow until May 27. Going with a nice Python tradition, my last action is an upload of a new revision of the Python packages (although I didn't manage to finish the Zope packages right in time ;-). Please feel free to make non-maintainer uploads if a

Re: fearless sailtrip (aka the DPL goes on vacation)

1999-05-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 01:22:13AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Anyway, I hope Debian will still exist and be in good shape when I > return. Oh, and with lots less release-critical bugs of course ;) hehe. we know what the mice do when the cat's away, but what mischief do the cats get up to whe

fearless sailtrip (aka the DPL goes on vacation)

1999-05-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I'm leaving tomorrow (saturday) on a week vacation to Greece. I'll be somewhere sailing on the greek waters, trying to work on a tan and check the sights. Of course the timing is slightly bad: the discussion period for the logo vote ends in the middle of the vacation. Howe

semi-vacation in Columbus, OH/Chicago, IL

1998-04-10 Thread Igor Grobman
I will be between Columbus, Ohio and Chicago, Illinois for the next week or so. I will have online access, but probably not much of an opportunity to do debian work. If anyone from the area wants to arrange a meeting and pgp signing, I'll be happy to cooperate :-). Igor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: FTP site taking an xmas vacation

1995-11-22 Thread Torin/Darren/Who Ever...
Bruce Perens spoke unto the world and said: >I'd like to hear from sites that can provide 400MB of FTP area >to serve as an alternate site. I can provide 400 Meg of diskspace until late January if needed. My link is over a 56K though. Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <

FTP site taking an xmas vacation

1995-11-21 Thread Bruce Perens
I'd like to hear from sites that can provide 400MB of FTP area to serve as an alternate site. Thanks Bruce -- Visit the "Toy Story" Web Page! http://www.toystory.com