Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-11-28 15:42:34, schrieb William Pitcock: > I think issues like these call for an unsupported repository outside of > Debian, but publicized within the community as an unofficial repository > for things like qmail, packages unwanted in Debian proper for the time > being, etc.

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-29 Thread Raphael Geissert
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > For completeness sake: QA does not thow out orphanes packages just for > being orphaned. If they are orphaned, RC-buggy, hardly used, and > alternatives are available, only then they are candidates for removal. You missed Debconf8's BoF I guess. > > Bast regards, > Bas

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-29 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Raphael Geissert dijo [Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:05:23PM -0600]: > William Pitcock wrote: > [...] > > > > The ideal way to handle this would be to have a single repository. PPAs > > solve a different problem, which is giving contributors and developers a > > playground to publish their in-progress p

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-29 Thread Gunnar Wolf
William Pitcock dijo [Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:57:37PM -0600]: > (...) > What I propose is something more along the lines of Gentoo's "sunrise" > overlay... a repository that anyone can get upload access to provided > that they understand basic Debian policy and have established that they > will be

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-29 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Miriam Ruiz dijo [Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 02:37:16AM +0100]: > > DDs would be discouraged from participating since they should be > > supporting packages/etc within Debian instead. > > I'm not exactly sure about this. I have quite a lot of packages that I > made for my own usage but I don't have time

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-29 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Romain Beauxis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29/11/2008): > Or > mentors.debian.net ? Source-only. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-29 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Paul! You wrote: > basically the Debian answer to Ubuntu's universe. The main reason I > started thinking about this was that I got annoyed when QA folks chuck > orphaned packages (i've changed my mind about this since though). For completeness sake: QA does not thow out orphanes packages jus

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread Raphael Geissert
William Pitcock wrote: [...] > > The ideal way to handle this would be to have a single repository. PPAs > solve a different problem, which is giving contributors and developers a > playground to publish their in-progress packages. This is more about > getting packages to users in an efficient way

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le Friday 28 November 2008 23:57:09 Holger Levsen, vous avez écrit : > On Friday 28 November 2008 22:42, William Pitcock wrote: > > I think issues like these call for an unsupported repository outside of > > Debian, but publicized within the community as an unofficial repository > > for things like

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 02:19 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Saturday 29 November 2008 01:57, William Pitcock wrote: > > What I propose is something more along the lines of Gentoo's "sunrise" > > overlay... a repository that anyone can get upload access to provided > > that they under

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread Evgeni Golov
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:28:58 +0900 Paul Wise wrote: > Infrastructure should be similarly supported and hosted by mainly > non-DDs; buildds, porting machines and so on. Actually I was thinking about something similar yesterday. Asa non-DD it is very hard to reproduce bugs from arches you don't own

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/11/29 Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > DDs would be discouraged from participating since they should be > supporting packages/etc within Debian instead. I'm not exactly sure about this. I have quite a lot of packages that I made for my own usage but I don't have time or interest in maintaini

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 6:42 AM, William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think issues like these call for an unsupported repository outside of > Debian, but publicized within the community as an unofficial repository > for things like qmail, packages unwanted in Debian proper for the time >

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Saturday 29 November 2008 01:57, William Pitcock wrote: > What I propose is something more along the lines of Gentoo's "sunrise" > overlay... a repository that anyone can get upload access to provided > that they understand basic Debian policy and have established that they > will be non-ma

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 23:57 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 28 November 2008 22:42, William Pitcock wrote: > > I think issues like these call for an unsupported repository outside of > > Debian, but publicized within the community as an unofficial repository > > for things lik

Re: what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 28 November 2008 22:42, William Pitcock wrote: > I think issues like these call for an unsupported repository outside of > Debian, but publicized within the community as an unofficial repository > for things like qmail, packages unwanted in Debian proper for the time > being, etc. d

what about a unofficial public community repo? (was: Re: qmail and related packages in NEW)

2008-11-28 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 20:51 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > Can you advise me on how to get out of that dilemma? > > Stop trying to get qmail into Debian? > or > Take on upstream development of qmail and solve all the problems > (whether qmail will then be recognisable compared to the existin