Re: what happened to x11amp

1999-10-02 Thread Dan Nguyen
Hi Kenneth, Where have you been? X11amp is now xmms. The package has been changed accordingly. On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 06:57:08PM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > I went to look for the sources to X11 amp on > ftp.debian.org and they are missing. I remember > downloading the source p

what happened to x11amp

1999-10-02 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I went to look for the sources to X11 amp on ftp.debian.org and they are missing. I remember downloading the source packages a few months ago, but now a package search on debian.org shows them missing. What happened? = Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debi

Re: x11amp

1999-02-02 Thread Stephen Crowley
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 10:50:01PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:30:41PM -0600, Stephen Crowley wrote: > > > But that is not the reason why my first guess was non-free. It was > > > the fact that mpg123 is in non-free, and x11amp is (according to >

Re: x11amp

1999-02-02 Thread John Goerzen
7;s GPL. That's about as solid as you > > can get. > > Yes, but the patents and other restrictions fsck up. I have yet to see that there are any applicable patents here. > > documentation anywhere that indicated that x11amp uses any mpg123 code. > > (Where ar

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 03:30:41PM -0600, Stephen Crowley wrote: > > But that is not the reason why my first guess was non-free. It was > > the fact that mpg123 is in non-free, and x11amp is (according to > > the docs) based on it. > > I already have it packaged. It uses

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
p. > > But that is not the reason why my first guess was non-free. It was > > the fact that mpg123 is in non-free, and x11amp is (according to > > the docs) based on it. > > mpg123 is in non-free because of its license. I did not find any > documentation anywhere th

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Jay Kominek
> mpg123 is in non-free because of its license. I did not find any > documentation anywhere that indicated that x11amp uses any mpg123 code. > (Where are you looking?) Since it's released as GPL, it's free. [EMAIL PROTECTED] jkominek/tmp]$ tar -tzf x11amp-0.9-alpha1.t

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Stephen Crowley
that they won't get to the decoders. > Debian has been very paranoid to the vague licencing terms of some > progs in the past, from what I've seen. > > But that is not the reason why my first guess was non-free. It was > the fact that mpg123 is in non-free, and x11amp i

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread John Goerzen
et. > But that is not the reason why my first guess was non-free. It was > the fact that mpg123 is in non-free, and x11amp is (according to > the docs) based on it. mpg123 is in non-free because of its license. I did not find any documentation anywhere that indicated that x11amp uses an

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
've seen. But that is not the reason why my first guess was non-free. It was the fact that mpg123 is in non-free, and x11amp is (according to the docs) based on it. BTW [EMAIL PROTECTED] address bounces, user unknown. I'll take that as a 'yes are the new maintainer' :) If an

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Josip Rodin wrote: > I saw the new alpha version, that has acceptable licence (GPL). > Although it's alpha, I'd like to see it packaged. If you aren't > interested, I'll do it. It would be nice... btw I just downloaded and compiled it... it does not work... I'm investigating n

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread John Goerzen
Which nobody has guaranteed is valid or defensable in Germany, let alone anywhere else. (I believe the EU does not allow software/algorithm patents, IIRC.) And which applies only to encoders. I don't see why we ought to let some lawyers trying to make a good bluff scare us. On Mon, Feb 01, 1999

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Shaleh
On 01-Feb-99 John Goerzen wrote: > Why should it be non-free if it's GPL? the mp3 patent

Re: x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread John Goerzen
Why should it be non-free if it's GPL? On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 09:51:35PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > Hi, > > I saw the new alpha version, that has acceptable licence (GPL). > Although it's alpha, I'd like to see it packaged. If you aren't > interested, I'll do it. > > For the -devel readers: s

x11amp

1999-02-01 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi, I saw the new alpha version, that has acceptable licence (GPL). Although it's alpha, I'd like to see it packaged. If you aren't interested, I'll do it. For the -devel readers: section should be non-free, right? Thanks. -- enJoy -*/\*- http://jagor.srce.hr/~jrodin/

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-09 Thread Martin Mitchell
mi gave us http://www.x11amp.ml.org/ as website for > Martin> x11amp. I haven't checked if it's the same as above. > > It's been moved to http://www.x11amp.bz.nu/ now. I'd like to encourage the maintainer to ask them to release source under a DFSG compatible l

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Ben Gertzfield
this, and whipped up some packages for the new version. They're done, but I won't upload them until Jens or Sami gets back to me. Martin> Sami gave us http://www.x11amp.ml.org/ as website for Martin> x11amp. I haven't checked if it's the same as above. It

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Michael Bramer
On Fri, May 08, 1998 at 12:10:56PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 07:37:57PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > This is my formal announcement of intention to package x11amp, a > > graphical .mp3 player for X. > > > > x11amp is a clone of WinAMP

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Martin Schulze
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 07:37:57PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > This is my formal announcement of intention to package x11amp, a > graphical .mp3 player for X. > > x11amp is a clone of WinAMP. It's free to redistribute, but no > source is available, so it's going into

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Gertzfield wrote: > No source available. :/ In the FAQ, though, it says there will be source available sometime. -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Andreas" == Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andreas> don't make it suid if it works without (mpg123, amp both Andreas> work well as normal programs), register it with Andreas> suidmanager without suid bit, and document in Andreas> README.debian how to make it

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
>One question: x11amp uses the real-time functions of Linux (and sounds >much better) if it's installed suid-root, but there are unknown holes >that this opens up. Should I use suidmanager and make it suid? don't make it suid if it works without (mpg123, amp both work well

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner
G> Finger me for my public PGP key. I'm on FurryMUCK as Che, and BG> EFNet and YiffNet IRC as Che_Fox. I'd put something like this: Although x11amp is more efficient if made setuid root, doing so has the potential of opening security holes, especially since it is a binary-only pack

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Larry" == Larry 'Daffy' Daffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Larry> I would say to register it with suidmanager, leave it Larry> non-suid by default, and place a notice somewhere that if Larry> performance is an issue, it may be made setuid through Larry> suidregister. On my

Re: Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner
>>>>> "BG" == Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BG> One question: x11amp uses the real-time functions of Linux (and BG> sounds much better) if it's installed suid-root, but there are BG> unknown holes that this opens up. Should I use sui

Intention to package x11amp

1998-05-08 Thread Ben Gertzfield
This is my formal announcement of intention to package x11amp, a graphical .mp3 player for X. x11amp is a clone of WinAMP. It's free to redistribute, but no source is available, so it's going into non-free/sound. Its home page is: http://www.x11amp.bz.nu/ One question: x11amp uses the