Bug#2868: amd hangs on tcsh hostname completion

1996-08-10 Thread Dominik Kubla
Could you please check that this is still true in the latest release? Thanks, Dominik

Bug#3988: Kbd: missing Dvorak keyboard maps

1996-08-10 Thread Dominik Kubla
The missing maps will be incorporated in the next release. Thanks for providing the necessary information. Dominik

Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it

1996-08-10 Thread David Engel
Ian Jackson writes: David Engel writes (Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it): Ian Jackson writes: ... Hmm. Why is it necessary for gcc to know which version of cpp is available, or for it to have exactly the right one ? Would you want the front-end driver

Bug#4088: ghostview does not put filename in window title

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: ghostview Version: 1.5-8 This is a change request: I would very much like ghostview to put the filename (or document title) in the X window title. This will make it much easier to pick the right ghostview window out of a list. In fact, I wanted this so much I went and implemented it

Re: dpkg-changelog-mode (dpkg-changelog.el)

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Meskes writes (Re: dpkg-changelog-mode (dpkg-changelog.el)): Do we have an official look the changelog has to have? If so how should it look? I won't be able to test your emacs style since I don't use emacs. Yes, we do. An example (from dpkg) is below. This is documented both by

Caldera's lawsuit against Microsoft

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
I should think that you've all heard about this by now - if not go and look at comp.os.linux.announce. I'm just posting here on what's really an irrelevant topic to say that I think it's a very good thing that someone is challenging Microsoft. I mailed Lyle Ball at Caldera to tell him so, and he

Re: Alphas and libc dependencies

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Re: Alphas and libc dependencies): You (Ian Jackson) wrote: ... 2a. Give the package containing our version of glibc version 0 the name libc5. 2b. Implement version numbers for virtual packages so that we can use one here. I think 2b should be done; [...]

Bug#4089: problems with rc.local

1996-08-10 Thread Brian C. White
Package: base Version: 1.1 The file '/etc/rc.local' exists, but is not set up properly. - It has permissions 644 instead of 744 - It is called only by '/etc/init.d/compat' but this file does not appear to be linked into any of the rc directories. (compat also runs the file '/sbin/setup.sh')

Re: fileutils can now replace perforate...

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark Eichin writes (Re: fileutils can now replace perforate...): [Ian Jackson:] But --sparse=auto is impossible to implement correctly on many systems, and filesystem-dependent on others ! Depends on what you mean by sparse... the trick is that you can use stat() to determine if the file

Re: Alphas and libc dependencies

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Re: Alphas and libc dependencies): ... In addition to my last message, here is an alternative I've just though of. Why don't we just provide dummy (eg empty) libc5, libdb1 etc packages, and let libc6 depend on them. Then libc5 etc _will_ be installed.. I think

Re: Emacs per-package startup files

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (Re: Emacs per-package startup files): Umm, /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp/ is already there, and already the right place for this sort of thing. Next question? Err, I don't think so. Files in /usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp aren't loaded automatically (and shouldn't be). As for

Re: Bug#3984: NIS writes error message to STDERR

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Bug#3984: NIS writes error message to STDERR): ... This is a bug in the library; the library routines print this (they shouldn't ofcourse). Heeemmm can anybody tell me how to redirect a bug report to another package, libc5 in particular? Yes. [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes (Re: New virtual package names. ): ... On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and others as well). Sorry I'm coming into this so late (just over a week, in fact), but I

Re: Name clash in prospective package

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Wirzenius writes (Re: Name clash in prospective package ): ... For instance, there's no guarantee that /usr/local/lib exists, or that the admin wants it to exist, or that it won't cause any trouble if it does exist. I can't think of anything that would break, but admins are allowed to do

Bug#3991: dselect has confusing and bizarre interface

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Daniel Quinlan writes (Bug#3991: dselect has confusing and bizarre interface): [ complaints about dselect's user interface ] I am merging this with Bug#1037. Offers of assistance are welcome. Ian.

Debian, Linux, the FSSTND, the FHS and BSD

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
(Note: this message is crossposted between two mailing lists - you should probably follow up on only one.) What used to be the FSSTND group has changed composition somewhat, and now includes a number of people from the BSD world. It set itself the goal of producing a joint filesystem layout

Amaya package

1996-08-10 Thread Yves Arrouye
Hello, I'd like to ask to be in charge of a Debian package for Amaya, which will go public in the next weeks. Amaya is a WWW WYSIWYG editor/browser supporting structured edition and cascading style sheets among other features. It is realized by the W3C as was Arena. I'd like to maintain this

Re: Documentation formats

1996-08-10 Thread Bruce Perens
Ian, I am aware of your efforts with linuxdoc.sgml, and I think it's important to make it clear that HTML is only the end-product. It's fine to encourage people to use linuxdoc as a source language. Thanks Bruce

Re: Pb: gdb cannot read core from 2.0.8 (is it a gdb or kernel problem)?

1996-08-10 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Yves Arrouye) wrote: GDB 4.15.1 (i486-linux), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc... 0¨´ @/core: not in executable format: File format not recognized So there's a problem there. Do you have an idea about who is faulty? Gdb? As I understand it, the way you call gdb is

Re: epoch?? how to make squid-1.0.5 squid-1.0beta16

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Craig Sanders writes (epoch?? how to make squid-1.0.5 squid-1.0beta16): ... Was epoch implemented? How do I use it? Yes. See the draft programmers' manual. Ian.

Re: Replaces: and virtual packages?

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Replaces: and virtual packages?): I thought having a package with Provides: compress Replaces: compress would be like Provides: compress Conflicts: compress except that the conflict will not appear and I hoped that when the package was

Re: Is it okay to download orig source once only?

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Is it okay to download orig source once only?): ... I propose that we upload once somepackage_release.tar.gz which unpacks to somepackage-release.orig/ and then further uploads would be somepackage_release-deb.diff.gz

Bug#4090: /etc/init.d/kerneld uses grep

1996-08-10 Thread Lukas Nellen
Package: modules Version: 2.0.0-6 The script /etc/init.d/kerneld uses grep - which might not be available. The problem is that if you put `auto' into /etc/conf.modules, kerneld is started before any extra mounts are done. So if you have /usr on a separate partition, /usr/bin/grep (which is

Bug#4091: Ftp does not wait for user answers on mget

1996-08-10 Thread Yves Arrouye
Package: netstd Version: 2.05-1 The ftp command, at least in a xterm, does not let one stop mget: ftp mget x* mget xarclock_1.0-1.deb? Continue with mget? mget xautolock_pl10-2.deb? Continue with mget? mget xaw3d_1.2a-5.deb? Continue with mget? mget xbase_3.1.2-9.deb? Continue with mget?

Re: gcc and binutils

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Bernd Eckenfels writes (gcc and binutils): ist it possile that on a fresh new install gcc is installed before binutils is installed, and therefore fail to configure? If I run configure afterwards everything is fine. Will dpkg install a package first if it sees that other ones depend on it?

Re: Draft manuals

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Raul Miller writes (Re: Draft manuals): Some thought about qmail should occur [in the section on mail processing]. qmail doesn't use a mail spool directory for security reasons, mail boxes are in the user's home directory by default. And, of course, there's the maildir format for people

Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Erick Branderhorst writes (Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?): ... But a /usr/doc/copyright dir should remain. The only contents allowed in there would be generic copyright messages like GPL LGPL BSD and so on. Putting these generic files in

Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
David Engel writes (Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it): ... Because they're designed to work together. That's why the FSF includes cpp with gcc instead of packaging it separately. This doesn't much sense to me, at least not without more detail. Why do gcc and cpp

sgmlspm 1.03ii-1: initial experimental release

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
This is the Perl5 module that I've been using to support my dpkg manual processing backends. Because it's in the new source format and refers to an as-yet-nonexistent virtual package I'm sending it into experimental. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 01:47:30

Bug#2868: amd hangs on tcsh hostname completion

1996-08-10 Thread Steve Hsieh
Yes, it is. I am using the latest debian stable distribution. Simply cd to /n (which is mapped to the following amd.host contents: /defaults opts:=grpid,intr,nosuid,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 * host==${key};type:=link;fs:=/ || type:=host;rhost:=${key} ) and type 'ls' there. It

Re: Qmail, smail and sendmail

1996-08-10 Thread Yves Arrouye
Ian Jackson writes: Yves Arrouye writes (Qmail, smail and sendmail): Does qmail support /etc/aliases, have a newaliases command and support being called as sendmail with the -bi option? The same questions may be asked for smail. Well, perhaps we should just say that you can

Re: Pb: gdb cannot read core from 2.0.8 (is it a gdb or kernel problem)?

1996-08-10 Thread Yves Arrouye
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes: You (Yves Arrouye) wrote: GDB 4.15.1 (i486-linux), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc... 0¨´ @/core: not in executable format: File format not recognized So there's a problem there. Do you have an idea about who is faulty? Gdb?

Re: Emacs per-package startup files

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Mark Eichin writes (Re: Emacs per-package startup files): ... [it would make it easier to fix the /etc/passwd problem that mhpower mentioned], but in those cases we can't really change the database because of existing use, whereas with emacs we are free to do that.) Right, that was my line

Re: CC's on this mailing list

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Re: CC's on this mailing list): ... I've noticed on some other lists that everything that is posted on the list has From: set to the original sender, Reply-To: to the list address and Cc: deleted. This is actually very nice. Would it be hard (or just a bad

Releases other than by the package maintainer

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
There are a couple of circumstances when a new version of a package needs to be released by someone other than the usual maintainer: * Architecture-specific patches which need to be integrated. * Maintainer is away or can't do it for some other reason. * Urgent security and other fixes. I

Re: Emacs per-package startup files

1996-08-10 Thread Brian C. White
Hmm. As for dpkg needing install-elisp, I'm not quite sure I buy that, because it would seem to argue that *any* install-* should be included in dpkg. Then again, there is only install-info which *is* in dpkg, and install-mime which is in mime-support which has it's own justification. There

Re: CC's on this mailing list

1996-08-10 Thread Brian C. White
I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel. Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ? It's a difficult call. Quite often I get copies of mail simply because I posted the msg

Conversion procedure for new source packages DRAFT

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
This is my first draft of a quick document saying how to convert an old to a new source package. DO NOT DO ANYTHING YET except read this and suggest amendments. Ian. * Download the original source code from wherever it can be found and do any rearrangement required to make it look like the

Re: New package standards - LAST CALL

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes (Re: New package standards - LAST CALL): ... I also think that when you make the new source package official, we should warn all maintainers of the base packages and ask them to convert their packages to the new standard. If they don't react in say 2 weeks,

Re: Name clash in prospective package

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Wirzenius writes (Re: Name clash in prospective package ): Ian Jackson: The point of not putting things in /usr/local isn't, as I see it, so Well, I'm not in full agreement, but it's not important enough. Fair enough. I propose the following resolution: I can live with the what you

Re: Qmail, smail and sendmail

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Re: Qmail, smail and sendmail): ... That's what I do. I even run sendmail -bi if newaliases is not found. But I wanted to be sure that all mail packages do provide the same user way of defining aliases, even if they manage them differently after that. I'll specify in the

Re: CC's on this mailing list

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (CC's on this mailing list): Ian Jackson writes: I'm considering adding a paragraph to the policy manual telling people not to CC each other when replying to messages on debian-devel. Is it the consensus of the list that this would be a good idea ? It would be

Re: Pb: gdb cannot read core from 2.0.8 (is it a gdb or kernel problem)?

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Re: Pb: gdb cannot read core from 2.0.8 (is it a gdb or kernel problem)?): ... But the message is really misleading... It would ne nice if Gdb checked wether the prog arg was a core first, and in this case tell that's the case and remind usage. (Not that I ask that it does

Bug#4093: start-stop-daemon fails to kill process

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Yves Arrouye writes (Bug#4093: start-stop-daemon fails to kill process): Maybe should it kill the process whose pid is in the pidfile, even if it does not think the executable is running? Here is an example of the problem: marin66# /etc/init.d/apache stop no /usr/sbin/apache found; none

Re: Documentation formats

1996-08-10 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Rob Browning writes: Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think we have free software packaged to do full text searches. We have glimpse and ferret, neither of which is free. There's something that is part of freeWais, but I haven't looked at it yet. Someone with the time

Bug#4097: smail cron jobs don't test if smail is installed

1996-08-10 Thread Alexander Goldstein
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- After removing smail, cron keeps trying and failing to execute /usr/lib/smail/checkerr every day out of /etc/cron.daily/smail that does not exist anymore. Proposed fix: check for existence of /etc/cron.daily/smail before running. - -- Alexander Goldstein

search engines

1996-08-10 Thread Brian C. White
[ I sent this to Lars, but then thought perhaps the whole list might be interested. Sorry for the duplicate mail, Lars! ] Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think we have free software packaged to do full text searches. We have glimpse and ferret, neither of which is free.

Bug#4096: abuse is still a.out

1996-08-10 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
Package: abuse Version: 1.10-4 abuse is still a.out [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file /usr/games/lib/abuse-1.10/abuse.x11R6 /usr/games/lib/abuse-1.10/abuse.x11R6: setgid Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (ZMAGIC), stripped Regards, Andreas