Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Josip Rodin wrote: Yes you may :) GNU info has been set to read its files from that directory since long time ago, IIRC before hamm. No, it's not in policy yet. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes

Re: new package

1999-05-26 Thread Tamas TEVESZ
On Wed, 26 May 1999, Ed Breen wrote: failed dependencies: /bin/sh is needed by eic-4.0.1-2 ld-linux.so.2 is needed by eic-4.0.1-2 libc.so.6 is needed by eic-4.0.1-2 libm.so.6 is needed by eic-4.0.1-2 /home/edb/bin/eic is needed by eic-4.0.1-2

Re: netscape crashes on potato

1999-05-26 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:34:34AM +0200, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: On Sun, 23 May 1999, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:13:56PM -0400, Greg Stark wrote: So the people who don't see crashes, which version of Netscape are you using? Do you use java successfully in

Re: mass-installing Debian

1999-05-26 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Tue, 25 May 1999, Michel Kaempf wrote: On Mon, May 24, 1999, Goswin Brederlow wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if dpkg would tell you what exactly has changed between the packages config file and what the difference to your config is? I allways wonder what has changed, since I normally

Re: mod_perl setup with apache on windows98

1999-05-26 Thread Ron
I'm trying to setup mod_perl with apache on windows98. ... I'm getting message that ApacheModulePerl.dll can not load and excution of Apache is terminated. Call Microsoft Technical support and ask for the source.. from there solving your problem will be easy. ..on the other hand, it may

Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-26 Thread Ron
And if you want to you can package the ESR view point and upload it. grin Anyone taking bets as to which will be the first to add a depends on the popularity-contest package ;-)

Re: netscape crashes on potato

1999-05-26 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Greg Stark proclaimed: Actually, would it be possible to bug the netscape maintainer into releasing libc5 packages? That might solve a lot of problems since the libc5 version isn't actually beta... Actually, the glibc2 is more stable (despite being listed under the 'unsupported' directory in

Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 10:35:57AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: I changed the description so it does not say it is a mirror anymore: [..] Does that help at all? Not really, but if enough people really think I'm wrong on this I won't press the issue. I also didn't press the issue with the

Re: ITP: fakedate

1999-05-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:32:16PM -0400, Ben Pfaff wrote: [...regarding time-travel library...] Or a clever wrapper for shareware style trial packages for linux that stop working after a certian time. I don't think there are any yet, but when lin= ux is popular there will be.

ITP: hns - Hyper Nikki System.

1999-05-26 Thread Takuro KITAME
Hi, I'm working package hns - Hyper Nikki System. (Nikki means Diary in English.) Sorry, Documents are Japanese only. but I wrote a little REAME.Debian in English. Liecense: GPL2 Package: hns2 Section: web Architecture: all Depends: perl, mail-transport-agent Recommends: apache, nkf

Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 24-May-99, 22:06 (CDT), Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are other reasons that free software is good (e.g. the ESR utilitarian arguments). Some Debianers might agree with one philosophy, others another. um.. Debian GNU/Linux ^^^ I'd say that's reason enough for us

Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 25-May-99, 01:47 (CDT), Edward Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 May, 1999, Steve Greenland wrote: There are other reasons that free software is good (e.g. the ESR utilitarian arguments). Some Debianers might agree with one philosophy, others another. If you're going to package

Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 25-May-99, 04:35 (CDT), Edward Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 23 May, 1999, Joseph Carter wrote: I have the same objection to this I had to the anarchist thing: You're trying to package their website. I don't think we should be doing that. I changed the description so it does

Re: SGML packages in debian (also ITP XML::*)

1999-05-26 Thread Stevie Strickland
I was digging back through the mailing list, and found this message from around the first of April... the list of packages below caught my eye... Still to be packged: XML::Parser (perl expat frontend), other perl XML stuff I've done XML::Parser already, and am now working on the others...

RE: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, 25 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, in that case we'll have to make a break between the boot _floppies_ and the floppy images used on the CDs. El Torito _only_ supports 720K, 1440K and 2880K. And I'm not sure about the last one... I'm pretty sure that it will also support a hard

Fwd: FHS pre-2.1 draft #1 on web site

1999-05-26 Thread Joel Klecker
--- begin forwarded text Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:35:07 -0700 From: Daniel Quinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FHS pre-2.1 draft #1 on web site FYI - I just made a pre-release of FHS 2.1 on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. If you have any comments, please direct them to

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Joel Klecker
At 08:35 +0100 1999-05-25, Enrique Zanardi wrote: No it won't, as the slang library on the rescue floppy is a stripped-down version that includes only the symbols that are actually used. (Have a look at generate-library.sh on the boot-floppies sources. It's a really smart hack). A hack that no

Re: Fwd: FHS pre-2.1 draft #1 on web site

1999-05-26 Thread Giuliano Procida
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:01:41AM -0700, Joel Klecker wrote: The major changes are as follows: /var/state is back at /var/lib, but using the /var/state [snip] /var/mail is back at /var/spool/mail. [snip] ... and the people took to the streets and there was great rejoicing!

Re: An 'ae' testimony (SUMMARY)

1999-05-26 Thread Jules Bean
Jules Bean wrote: I don't want to start a flame-war, so be gentle.. Oh well. I did, anyhow. I was just mindlessly (in a tongue-in-cheek way) evangalising Debian on a mailing list I'm on, and I got a private response from a SuSE user. He had installed Debian from a CD (he didn't say

Re: ITP: hns - Hyper Nikki System.

1999-05-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:06:40PM +0900, Takuro KITAME wrote: Package: hns2 Section: web Architecture: all Depends: perl, mail-transport-agent Recommends: apache, nkf Should not at least apache be a Suggests instead of Recommends? I don't have to use apache to use a CGI. In fact, I can

Re: ITP: fakedate

1999-05-26 Thread Bart Schuller
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 06:43:12PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:32:16PM -0400, Ben Pfaff wrote: [...regarding time-travel library...] Or a clever wrapper for shareware style trial packages for linux that stop working after a certian time. I don't

why I packaged the GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-26 Thread Edward Betts
On Wed, 26 May, 1999, Steve Greenland wrote: Table of Contents . * About Free Software * About the GNU project * Licensing Free Software * Laws * Terminology and Definitions * GIFs * Motivation * Speeches * Third

Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages

1999-05-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:47:33AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: Having said that, and thought about the packages I maintain, 'jargon' clearly fits in the above category, and will be withdrawn until there is an appropriate archive. nah, don't do that. Wait for wichert's proposal when the logo

Re: An 'ae' testimony (suggestion)

1999-05-26 Thread Martin Kahlert
Quoting Jules Bean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): OK. We didn't really come to a consensus, be here's my what, IMO, best summarises our opinions: 1) If we don't have vi on the disks, we shouldn't pretend to. So, the vi-compatibility mode goes. (Has gone.) 2) We choose between 'ae' and 'ee' on

intent to package

1999-05-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I intend to package Gnome Toaster. Here is the description as taken from freshmeat: Gnometoaster is intended to be a full CD creation suite for X11. Although it is in the very early stages of development, it can already be used to copy data, audio, and hybrid cds on the fly or with

re-orphaning ALSA

1999-05-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I am orphaning the ALSA package, since I don't have the time to properly maintain a package of that complexity. I did this before and somebody volunteered, but apparently nothing has happened since and I forgot who it was. There are currently a couple of open bugs, none of which are really

Re: Adoption of the FHS

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:04:53AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Yes you may :) GNU info has been set to read its files from that directory since long time ago, IIRC before hamm. No, it's not in policy yet. Sorry, I meant to say yes you can. But it should become policy soon, so that

Re: Xfree 3.3.3.1 for slink anywhere?

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 11:43:40PM +0100, Adrian Bridgett wrote: I've spent quite a while trying to find out but the only reference I could see doesn't have any packages there anymore (www.debian.org/~vincent IIRC). NB: I know that generally you can just grab the Xserver you want. Just grab

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:03:33PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: But there seem to be enough C++ deevelopers around here, and more and more C++ is mostly popular because microsoft is using it, ... will follow (if you haven't noticed, on universities they teach Scheme, Java , Perl and C++,

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 11:47:59AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: I don't want to start a flame-war, so be gentle.. I was just mindlessly (in a tongue-in-cheek way) evangalising Debian on a mailing list I'm on, and I got a private response from a SuSE user. He had installed Debian from a CD (he

Re: ITP: fakedate

1999-05-26 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
on linux-kernel there was once a posting for an app, that could trap any system call and make the kernel return different results. think like strace, but allows to reprogram system calls. i'm sorry, i don't know where the program was, but maybe you like to search and look at this approach.

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 03:09:02PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 21 May 1999 14:57:26 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: Maybe joe or something? The standard joe package is way too big and someone would almost certainly have to come up with a

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 04:33:43PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 May 1999 09:02:24 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: *i* know it's not really vi. but my fingers don't. hail eris! Well, according to that logic joe should be on there.

Re: mass-installing Debian

1999-05-26 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 25 May 1999, Michel Kaempf wrote: On Mon, May 24, 1999, Goswin Brederlow wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if dpkg would tell you what exactly has changed between the packages config file and what the difference to your config is? I

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:51:03PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21 May 1999 22:38:14 -0700, Chris Waters wrote: I think ee is a good choice, I'm not sure it's the right choice, I'm not sure there is a right choice. If we put a vi on, we get a

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 08:53:06AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:49:11PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: some version of vi is essential on a rescue disk, regardless of what some windows using loudmouth happens to think (and no, i'm not referring to you here joseph).

Re: An 'ae' testimony (suggestion)

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 11:33:08AM +0200, Martin Kahlert wrote: Quoting Jules Bean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): OK. We didn't really come to a consensus, be here's my what, IMO, best summarises our opinions: 1) If we don't have vi on the disks, we shouldn't pretend to. So, the

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:51:48AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: As for the editor that should go on the boot floppies? I'll stay out of that discussion, except: Should anyone come up with an editor that emulates the old DOS edit program, and takes the same order of space on the boot floppy as

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:21:02PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Sat, 22 May 1999, Michael Stone wrote: On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:49:11PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: some version of vi is essential on a rescue disk, regardless of what some windows using loudmouth happens to think (and

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:05:27PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Joseph Carter wrote: Okay, let me offer this a bit here... Do the rescue floppies currently use libncurses at all? I think they don't. Okay, now then: Slang does have minimal ncurses support, you can link ncurses apps against

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:54:57PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 09:47:33AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: that extra 30k (if it is actually available on the rescue disk) would be better used either as part of the space needed by elvis-tiny (**) or by I still don't

Re: PROPOSAL: automatic installation and configuration

1999-05-26 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)] From: Massimo Dal Zotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PROPOSAL: automatic installation and configuration Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:01:57 +0200 (MEST) Hi, I have done a few experiments about automatic configuration

Intent to package: trr19

1999-05-26 Thread Takao KAWAMURA
Hi, I have packaged trr19, a GPL'd type training program for GNU Emacs. Though the manual of trr19 is written in Japanese, I think non-Japanese-speaking-people can play with it because it talk to you in English by default. More info about trr19 can be found at

Re: Source-depends?

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 02:42:51AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 03:07:19AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Some of these can be detected automatically (#5 could be discovered with a grep on debian/rules, for example), but some can't. So, what's the problem?

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 12:15:38PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish What if we make the help text mode-sensitive? eg Do that, and still have the editor small enough (isn't ae like 25Kb or something?), and then we shall

Re: Source-depends?

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:46:41PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: So, what's the problem? We don't autodetect all of binary dependencies either. Maintainers generally know what they need to build their packages; it should be trivial for them to list the dependencies explicitly!

Re: An 'ae' testimony (suggestion)

1999-05-26 Thread Martin Kahlert
Quoting Sven LUTHER ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I downloaded and tried it. it compiled fine on my solaris box here at work, but it didn't work so fine (it was 110k before i striped it, 67k after. using only libc) i was able to open a new file, enter insert mode with i, type hello (it frooze

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:38:11PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: no, but vi as been standard unix editor since times immemorial, and people expect to find it on any unix system. The boot disk is not a system at all - it is crippled in every way. And we don't have a vi that would fit in 25KB. --

Re: Fwd: FHS pre-2.1 draft #1 on web site

1999-05-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 09:13:03AM +0100, Giuliano Procida wrote: The major changes are as follows: /var/state is back at /var/lib, but using the /var/state [snip] /var/mail is back at /var/spool/mail. [snip] ... and the people took to the streets and there was great

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:31:15PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: remove this help stuff, and have just some sort of help binding that will bring it up. That would be nicer, and let more space for editign. That's okay too, as long as it is clearly written (e.g. like in joe, Ctrl-K H for help).

Re: An 'ae' testimony (suggestion)

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:19:48PM +0200, Martin Kahlert wrote: Quoting Sven LUTHER ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I downloaded and tried it. it compiled fine on my solaris box here at work, but it didn't work so fine (it was 110k before i striped it, 67k after. using only libc) i was able

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:27:39PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Sure this happened to me a long time ago, didn't try ae since because of it though. One question: how can you blame ae for not working, when you rely on outdated information about it?! (today we'd call that plain FUD :) I

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:27:51PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:38:11PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: no, but vi as been standard unix editor since times immemorial, and people expect to find it on any unix system. The boot disk is not a system at all - it is crippled

Re: Intent to package: src2tex

1999-05-26 Thread Jules Bean
Takao KAWAMURA wrote: Licence: Permission to use, copy, and modify this software and its documentation is granted under no conditions. I will upload it to master in a few days. ..is granted under no conditions reads like 'is not granted'. I.e., there are no conditions under which such

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 26 May 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:51:48AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: As for the editor that should go on the boot floppies? I'll stay out of that discussion, except: Should anyone come up with an editor that emulates the old DOS edit program, and takes the

Strange problems when trying to compile kernel 2.2.7

1999-05-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, I installed kernel-source-2.2.7 from potato and tried to compile. I've got several No such file or directory errors. The `make zImage 2` output is appended. Is the package broken??? Kind regards Andreas. [X] Against war. init/main.c: In function `start_kernel':

Suggestions for new packages

1999-05-26 Thread Yann Dirson
Hi all, Here are some DFSG-free packages I found during the last weeks, which I feel would be great to have in Debian. Rush for them ! ;) * HFM - Hamster Font Manager (GPL) http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ifi/se/service/hamster/index_e.html HFM is a font manager for Unix systems.

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 26 May 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:21:02PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Sat, 22 May 1999, Michael Stone wrote: On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:49:11PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: some version of vi is essential on a rescue disk, regardless of what

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 08:11:42AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Wed, 26 May 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:51:48AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: As for the editor that should go on the boot floppies? I'll stay out of that discussion, except: Should anyone come up with

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 08:20:51AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Wed, 26 May 1999, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:21:02PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Sat, 22 May 1999, Michael Stone wrote: On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:49:11PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: some

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Richard Kaszeta
Sven LUTHER writes (Re: An 'ae' testimony): On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:27:39PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Sure this happened to me a long time ago, didn't try ae since because of it though. One question: how can you blame ae for not working, when you rely on outdated information about

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sven LUTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is one of the most infuriating thing with a base debian system, no true vi. On the rescue disk, there's no true vi, but elvis-tiny is in the base system and it's no vim but it still is a complete vi (and only 64K)

Re: An 'ae' testimony (suggestion)

1999-05-26 Thread Martin Kahlert
Quoting Sven LUTHER ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Will try at home, if it works fine, i could package it. Do you have any idea about the license of this stuff ? there seem to be no mention of it in the sources. Sorry, no. You will have to ask the author for it. I looked into the sources a bit, and i

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread David Starner
Sven LUTHER wrote: Every Unix system is distributed with a working vi, and most people know how to use vi. So finding a non standard editor on the base system is not so nice, and can cause lots of confusions. and ae is a lot confusing, and don't behave Read the instructions on the top of

Re: Strange problems when trying to compile kernel 2.2.7

1999-05-26 Thread Stefan Baums
I get a similar problem, but only when compiling pcmcia-source for that kernel package: gcc -MD -O2 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Winline -pipe -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -I. ./include -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.7/include -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.7 -c i82365.c In file included from

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 07:13:46AM -0500, David Starner wrote: Sven LUTHER wrote: Every Unix system is distributed with a working vi, and most people know how to use vi. So finding a non standard editor on the base system is not so nice, and can cause lots of confusions. and ae is a

Re: Xfree 3.3.3.1 for slink anywhere?

1999-05-26 Thread Amos Shapira
From: Sven LUTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Xfree 3.3.3.1 for slink anywhere? Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:23:26 +0200 On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 11:43:40PM +0100, Adrian Bridgett wrote: I've spent quite a while trying to find out but the only reference I could see doesn't have any packages

ITP: terraform

1999-05-26 Thread shaleh
As I recall someone(s) posted an intent and nothing came from this. I am able to compile and use this app, so it will now be packaged. This will likely be a few weeks away as various things are comig up and I need to get gtkmm happy again first (GNOME deps, eee).

Re: An 'ae' testimony (suggestion)

1999-05-26 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 04:00:00PM +0200, EXT Martin Kahlert wrote: Quoting Sven LUTHER ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Will try at home, if it works fine, i could package it. Do you have any idea about the license of this stuff ? there seem to be no mention of it in the sources. Sorry, no. You will

Re: Source-depends?

1999-05-26 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:04:47PM +0200, EXT Josip Rodin wrote: On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:46:41PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: So it would be nice to have a some kind of wrapper library that patches the open and such function from glibc, and log the accessed files (the one that are not

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 26 May 1999 12:44:26 +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: Every Unix system is distributed with a working vi, and most people know how As has been pointed out, several times, FreeBSD does not. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 26 May 1999 12:49:03 +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: after the emacs vs. vi flamewar, you want to start a unix still editor (vi or emacs) vs. microsoft still key binding thread ? Sven... Joe is UNIX. WordStar is not Microsoft. Get your

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 26 May 1999 13:38:11 +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: no, but vi as been standard unix editor since times immemorial, and people expect to find it on any unix system. Here's one person who doesn't. Blows your theory, doesn't it? - --

glibc 2.1 machine for debian developers?

1999-05-26 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello, Not daring to upgrade my machines to glibc 2.1 yet for lack of stability, I was hoping I'll be able to upgrade my package on master.debian.org but now see that it is also based on glibc 2.0. Is there any debian glibc 2.1 machine (actually a potato machine) available for Debian developers

Re: ITP: fakedate

1999-05-26 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 26 May 1999, you wrote: on linux-kernel there was once a posting for an app, that could trap any system call and make the kernel return different results. think like strace, but allows to reprogram system calls. i'm sorry, i don't know where the program was, but maybe you like to search

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-26 Thread Adam Rogoyski
Would it be feasible to have a /bin directory on the base cd and in there store some binaries of vi and some other basic utilities that could be used along with the rescue/install disk? Anyone who is installing will have access to the media in some form. Anyone just using it as a rescue disk

Re: glibc 2.1 machine for debian developers?

1999-05-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 07:42:35PM +0300, Amos Shapira wrote: Is there any debian glibc 2.1 machine (actually a potato machine) available for Debian developers to compile their packages on? pandora.debian.org -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: Source-depends?

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 06:40:09PM +0300, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: Of course, these are all very nice ideas... but we currently don't have any PLACE to put the list (where it'll get used by dpkg* tools), whether it is manually or automatically generated! IIRC Ben Collins had made a

Re: glibc 2.1 machine for debian developers?

1999-05-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 07:42:35PM +0300, Amos Shapira wrote: Not daring to upgrade my machines to glibc 2.1 yet for lack of stability, I was hoping I'll be able to upgrade my package on master.debian.org but now see that it is also based on glibc 2.0. Is there any debian glibc 2.1 machine

Re: SGML packages in debian (also ITP XML::*)

1999-05-26 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Stevie Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was digging back through the mailing list, and found this message from around the first of April... the list of packages below caught my eye... [...] OpenXML (should be free) XML4j (not sure if utterly free, but close) Cacoon (see the

Re: ITP: fakedate

1999-05-26 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 25 May 1999, you wrote: Russel Coker wrote: I intend to release a package of a little library I'm working on called fakedate. This will wrap the time() system call and make applications think that they are running on a different date. You might also be interested in these two

How to handle the jargon file?

1999-05-26 Thread Edward Betts
Debian has at the moment the packages: jargon 4.0.0-3 maintained by Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] jargon-text 4.0.0-3 maintained by Edward Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] (me) The first is in info format, the second in an odd hypertext language with a viewer called Volks-hypertext browser

Intent to package Catalog

1999-05-26 Thread Christophe Le Bars
Catalog is a perl program that allows to create, maintain and display Yahoo! like directories. The user interface is 100% HTML. It requires a MySQL database to run. -- Christophe Le Bars - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to handle the jargon file?

1999-05-26 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 03:43:11PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: ESR's perfered format is html. The jargon file is now avaliable as a single 2Mb html file jargon.html, which works quite well, if it does take a little while to load into lynx. The other option is a .tar.gz file containing all the

Re: How to handle the jargon file?

1999-05-26 Thread Dave Swegen
Just curious really, but which format does the dict-jargon package use? Cheers Dave On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 15:43 +0100, Edward Betts wrote: Debian has at the moment the packages: jargon 4.0.0-3 maintained by Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] jargon-text 4.0.0-3 maintained by

Wanting to play with the big boys

1999-05-26 Thread Patrik Magnusson
Well, I just finished my first real program. A random dot stereogram generator. It takes a function, e.g. sin(xy) and makes an rds of that surface as seen from ...hmmm... below I think. For some previews http://pedgr634.sn.umu.se So I want to apply to be a maintainer. As I understand it, it is

Re: How to handle the jargon file?

1999-05-26 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 03:43:11PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: Eric S. Raymond has released version 4.1.2 of the jargon file, but it is not released in info format. The text version is broken, it does not work correctly with Volks-hypertext browser and the spacing is messed up. ESR's perfered

Re: How to handle the jargon file?

1999-05-26 Thread Edward Betts
On Wed, 26 May, 1999, Dave Swegen wrote: Just curious really, but which format does the dict-jargon package use? None, I forgot about that one, it uses its own format. So that is ANOTHER version of jargon, I presume it is still 4.0.0 and not yet updated to 4.1.2 -- I consume, therefore I am

Re: ITP: libi18n-charset-perl

1999-05-26 Thread Ardo van Rangelrooij
Sure, no problem. It'll have to wait until the weekend though. Thanks, Ardo Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just uploaded libunicode-map8-perl a couple of days ago. Also my wdg-html-validator uses a private copy of I18N::Charset because the authors said they had modified it

Creating a dynamic group `jazip' (or not)?

1999-05-26 Thread Peter S Galbraith
My jazip package is almost ready to be uploaded (jazip is an X tool to easily mount and unmount Iomega Zip and/or Jaz drives). It is suid-root and gives all users the ability to mount and umount zip and jaz devices. I'm contemplating creating a group jazip as a means to let sysadmins control

Re: FROM envelope rewite (Was: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender)

1999-05-26 Thread Claudio S. Suarez Sanchez
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:10:04AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: It seems that there is a rewriting in the headers from Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Return-Path: debian-devel@lists.debian.org No. It isn't a rewriting. The mail came from debian-devel and was bounced back to

Re: re-orphaning ALSA

1999-05-26 Thread David Huggins-Daines
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:03:44PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I am orphaning the ALSA package, since I don't have the time to properly maintain a package of that complexity. I did this before and somebody I'll take it if nobody else already has. (I have sound cards at work that don't seem

glibc 2.1 and apache

1999-05-26 Thread Alexander Koch
Hello. Short question: Does anyone of you have experienced apache forking children that do not get killed again after a period of time? We have 70+ processes on _ (/server-status) and this is unusual, to say the least. It happened after an update to the latest glibc in potato where it was glibc

levee update

1999-05-26 Thread Dan Gohman
Hello, I noticed interest in levee, the tiny vi clone. I have a somewhat tamed version available at http://rn082110.mrs.umn.edu/levee-update.tar.gz It is based on Levee v3.C. Major changes include cleaning up many error messages, replacing the old function declaration style, and some bug

Intent filed on: Edison

1999-05-26 Thread Giuliano Procida
Chris Okasaki says: I am pleased to make the first public release of Edison, a library of data structures for Haskell. See http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~cdo/edison/ for details. It has a highly free licence. Giuliano Procida. pgpWWtkE9gdj7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: How to handle the jargon file?

1999-05-26 Thread Joey Hess
Edward Betts wrote: ESR's perfered format is html. The jargon file is now avaliable as a single 2Mb html file jargon.html, which works quite well, if it does take a little while to load into lynx. The other option is a .tar.gz file containing all the html but each entry is a seperate file. I

Re: How to handle the jargon file?

1999-05-26 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 02:16:37PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: The main thing I don't want to see change is the current jargon command. I'm used to being able to type jargon foo and get to the definition of foo. I don't really care if it continues to use info, or some other viewer, just so long as

Let's Debian blow... gracefully! [was Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages]

1999-05-26 Thread Fabien Ninoles
Quoting Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 10:35:57AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: I changed the description so it does not say it is a mirror anymore: [..] Does that help at all? Not really, but if enough people really think I'm wrong on this I won't press the

Re: PROPOSAL: automatic installation and configuration

1999-05-26 Thread Massimo Dal Zotto
Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)] From: Massimo Dal Zotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PROPOSAL: automatic installation and configuration Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:01:57 +0200 (MEST) Hi, I have done a few experiments about automatic

Re: Let's Debian blow... gracefully! [was Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages]

1999-05-26 Thread shaleh
Seconded, this seems a good solution.

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