Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-05 Thread Ryan Murray
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 11:25:38PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: * Ryan Murray said: to work, although I have no idea how Linux would react to having to having multiple devpts filesystems mounted at once. Probably best to try and see :) Both proc and devpts are mounted.

Re: Need help for GPG

1999-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 03:50:35AM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote: I'm trying to use GPG for signing my debian packages... I've successfully created my new GPG secret key, and when I list my keys and signatures, I get: % gpg -v --list-sig [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: Warning: using

Re: PGP/GPG Keys

1999-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 07:45:23PM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Is it possible to use a key created by pgp5 for package signing ? The key works for me when I use it with gpg, both the opposite is not true (e.g. pgp5 is unable to verify a signature created with a gpg key). I am no maintainer

when one have a package to test...

1999-10-05 Thread Carlos Barros
Hello! I have a package to test for security, license, and debian rules. How to upload? Do I have to change control file? I think It must be put in project/test but how, just uploading it to there? -- bye Carlos Barros.

Re: ITW/P: freecati

1999-10-05 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 12:08:59PM -0700, A.J. Rossini wrote: Just for the record, some of us use CATI to get information from subjects (voluntary participation) who can not come to a research site for various reasons . i have no problem at all with voluntary participation in surveys or

Re: PGP/GPG Keys

1999-10-05 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Is it possible to use a key created by pgp5 for package signing ? The key works for me when I use it with gpg, both the opposite is not true (e.g. pgp5 is unable to verify a signature created with a gpg key). I am no maintainer yet and so I want to

Weird errors from update-alternatives

1999-10-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
My system upgrade today (from yesterday's potato to today's potato) produced the following odd output: Setting up tk8.2 (8.2.0-3) ... Checking available versions of wish, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.) Leaving wish

Re: ITP: buglist?

1999-10-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Joey Hess wrote: Thomas Schoepf wrote: Have you tried Ben's getbugs.pl? Is it good enough? I looked at it briefly, but it seemsed very slow. wget is easier. I get: Error: IO::Socket::INET: Connection refused (use --help for usage) ... any comments? Ben? (I am most

Wanting to Hire Linux Developer

1999-10-05 Thread Christoph Lameter
Title: Linux Developer Job Description: Develop and maintain Debian packages related to our solution within the standard Debian distribution as well as on our opensource site (http://opensource.captech.com) as well as on our private archives. Deploy and configure Debian/Linux systems. Setup and

Re: ITP: buglist?

1999-10-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 04:36:58PM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Joey Hess wrote: Thomas Schoepf wrote: Have you tried Ben's getbugs.pl? Is it good enough? I looked at it briefly, but it seemsed very slow. wget is easier. I get: Error: IO::Socket::INET:

dpkg -l format

1999-10-05 Thread Colin Walters
I'm not sure if this has been discussed extensively before on debian-devel, but a quick search of the mailing list archives didn't turn up anything, so here goes: The output format of dpkg -l is terrible. Many package names exceed the measly 16 characters allotted. Many, many times when trying

Re: ITP: actx

1999-10-05 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi, Fri, 01 Oct 1999 19:16:37 +0900, Kenshi Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about ITP: actx ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): kmuto I intent to upload package actx. kmuto actx is pretty mascot program for X Window System, it will catch kmuto your heart. :-) kmuto Copyright: GPL Firstly I say, I'm not real

Re: Unstable release

1999-10-05 Thread Staffan Hämälä
On Mon, 04 Oct 1999, Daniel Burrows wrote: I usually use apt to fetch via ftp, but pointing it at a source archive should do the same thing. Are you using it as a dselect backend, or are you doing something else entirely? I'm using it via dselect. I'll have to try that once more to be sure

Re: doom source GPL'd

1999-10-05 Thread Andre Majorel
At 00:57 1999.10.04 +0100, you wrote: Andre Majorel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can they put limitations on your piece off work, I do not understand, do they have a patent on wad files (I do not think so). I don't think so either but they act like they had. IIRC, the deal was : OK, we'll let

Re: dpkg -l format

1999-10-05 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 12:44:10AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: I'm not sure if this has been discussed extensively before on debian-devel, but a quick search of the mailing list archives didn't turn up anything, so here goes: There are open bugs against dpkg on this, IIRC. I have to grep

Re: dpkg -l format

1999-10-05 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:31:35AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Simple: grep-status -Pe '.*netscape.*' | grep-dctrl -FStatus -sPackage -n \ 'install ok installed' | xargs dpkg --purge Or simpler: grep-status -P netscape | grep-dctrl -FStatus -sPackage -n \ 'install ok installed' |

Re: Unstable release

1999-10-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Monday 4 October 1999, at 20 h 44, the keyboard of =?iso-8859-1?Q?Staffan_H=E4m=E4l=E4?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious about how other people succeed in installing the potato release. As explained, almost nobody installed potato. They installed slink (may be only the base

Re: when one have a package to test...

1999-10-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Monday 4 October 1999, at 21 h 8, the keyboard of Carlos Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a package to test for security, license, and debian rules. How to upload? Did you read the documentations http://www.debian.org/devel/ and specially Debian Developer's Reference?

Re: dpkg -l format

1999-10-05 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:58:06AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Or simpler: grep-status -P netscape | grep-dctrl -FStatus -sPackage -n \ 'install ok installed' | xargs dpkg --purge Or simpler, and closer to the original intent: dpkg --get-selections | grep 'netscape' |

Re: recompile needed for xlib6g (= 3.3.5-1) instead of (= 3.3.2.3a-2) ?

1999-10-05 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: [posted this to -mentors 40 hours ago without an answer, so perhaps I'll try -devel instead] I recently uploaded i386 packages that were build on a slink system upgraded to potato's libc6 and C compilers (everything else is slink). These

Some developers still using slink?

1999-10-05 Thread Edward Betts
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a general rule, as long as you can run the result in potato without using oldlibs packages, it should be fine. [ Personal note: Most of the packages I maintain depend on libc6 and nothing more. For this reason I have not upgraded to potato yet. This

Re: Some developers still using slink?

1999-10-05 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:00:46AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: So how many other developers are not using unstable? Perhaps this should be taken up on another list, if you expect input from more than a few people. For what it's worth, I'm using a slink system with potato in my apt/sources.list,

Re: Some developers still using slink?

1999-10-05 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:00:46AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a general rule, as long as you can run the result in potato without using oldlibs packages, it should be fine. [ Personal note: Most of the packages I maintain depend on libc6 and nothing

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-05 Thread Brian May
Could I clarify some stuff please? Are we proposing that all mime-types have binfmt_misc setup? Does that mean, the kernel will be able to `run' any file in mailcap? Is that what we really want? Daniel Burrows proposed that only certain entries would get executed, He suggested that it would be

Re: PGP/GPG Keys

1999-10-05 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Joseph Carter wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 07:45:23PM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Is it possible to use a key created by pgp5 for package signing ? The key works for me when I use it with gpg, both the opposite is not true (e.g. pgp5 is unable to verify a signature created with a gpg

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-05 Thread Brian May
Some more questions. Is it possible to recognise an html file by a couple of magic numbers at the beginning? Most html starts html or HTML, but it is not certian that it will look like this. Another thought is the possiblilty of running perl scripts without the bang path, but then how would

itp: qsstv

1999-10-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I intend to package qsstv. This is a slow scan television receiver and transmitter using your sound card. Needs some minor bug fixes in the qt1g package and some license clarification before it can be uploaded. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-05 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ryan Murray said: Have you tried actually mounting them in the chroot jail and then having yes. symbolic links to them from the real root? That way there is only one proc,pts directory ever mounted... You cannot symlink over a pseudo-root. It must all be below it. You are

Re: in.telnetd and virtual hosting

1999-10-05 Thread Marek Habersack
* Mikolaj J. Habryn said: MH == Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MH Both proc and devpts are mounted. Doesn't matter whether I MH mount them beforehand or whether a wrapper script does it MH after chrooting - the same message appears. I suspected that MH the devpts

Uninstallable Packages

1999-10-05 Thread Anthony Towns
Hello world, I'm experimenting with a script to work out whether packages are installable or not. I figured the world at large might be interested in some of the results. The following packages are not installable (ie, their Depends:, Recommends:, and Conflicts: can't be concurrently satisfied)

Re: dpkg -l format

1999-10-05 Thread Joost Kooij
Hi, On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Colin Walters wrote: The output format of dpkg -l is terrible. Many package names exceed the measly 16 characters allotted. Many, many times when trying to remove packages that have long strings of dependencies, I have to grep /var/lib/dpkg/status, and remove things

Re: dpkg -l format

1999-10-05 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 05:45:34AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Note that this last is equivalent to: grep-status -P netscape | awk '/^Package: /{print $2}' | xargs dpkg --purge which is better written as grep-status -P -sPackage -n netscape since this does not use an extra awk

Packages for adoption: dip, sliplogin

1999-10-05 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
HI, due to absolute missing of dial up abilities (I don't even have a fixed line any more :-) I have to orphane two of my packages: dip - I'm crying in orphaning this, as I was putting a lot of care. It's the tool to handle SLIP/PPP connection (both sides), and it was the only one

Debian at Systems'99 in Munich, Germany (?)

1999-10-05 Thread Rainer Dorsch
On the German Debian list [EMAIL PROTECTED], an announcement of the German Linux magazin was posted, that there is some space for Debian (and other free projects like apache, kde, and gimp) reserved at Systems'99 in Munich. A computer (Athlon 500 oder PII/400), a 17 inch Monitor and Internet

Re: Uninstallable Packages

1999-10-05 Thread Petr Cech
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:13:51PM +1000 , Anthony Towns wrote: Hello world, I'm experimenting with a script to work out whether packages are installable or not. I figured the world at large might be interested in some of the results. The following packages are not installable (ie, their

Re: should installed daemons automatically restart upon upgrade?

1999-10-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a parallel problem to this thread: I have gpm installed for those times when I am doing a lot of console work, but generally I don't run it because it interferes with Quake II, among other things. So I did an: update-rc.d -f gpm remove I

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:50:29PM +1000, Brian May wrote: This is getting a bit off the original thread... Just a little ;) IMHO, any magic type of database, is a hacked solution. As long as the maguc type is based on the content of the file, it works rather well. As we don't need a full

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-05 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:39:00PM +1000, Brian May wrote: Agreed. I would always be reluctant to make all my documents executable in order to get this to work... This is indeed a bit ugly, but then, it's just a bit ;) These are questions I can't answer. I seriously doubt the kernel will be

Re: recompile needed for xlib6g (= 3.3.5-1) instead of (= 3.3.2.3a-2) ?

1999-10-05 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Santiago Vila wrote: I wrote I recently uploaded i386 packages that were build on a slink system upgraded to potato's libc6 and C compilers (everything else is slink). These packages (xcolmix and xplot) have this depends line: Depends: libc6 (= 2.1), libforms0.88, xlib6g (=

Re: PGP/GPG Keys

1999-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 12:39:50PM +0200, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: Is it possible to use a key created by pgp5 for package signing ? The key works for me when I use it with gpg, both the opposite is not true (e.g. pgp5 is unable to verify a signature created with a gpg key). I am no

ITP/RFP: libsigc++ (as libsigcpp)...

1999-10-05 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Actually, deep down this is more a RFP, but I'm willing to do it myself to see it happen. :-) I need this library to package the Quasimodo modular, extensible, real-time audio/MIDI Environment for POSIX-ish Operating Systems. About: This library implements a full callback system for use in

Re: dpkg -l format

1999-10-05 Thread Nick Moffitt
Quoting Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho: On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 05:45:34AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: grep-status -P netscape | awk '/^Package: /{print $2}' | xargs dpkg --purge which is better written as grep-status -P -sPackage -n netscape since this does not use an extra awk process.

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 02, Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patent makes it non-free, so does the new license. Really? In my country RSA is not patented, why should I care about what happens in someone else country? -- ciao, Marco

moving mutt to standard priority

1999-10-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 02, Edward Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MUA: mutt This is not the default, the only two mail clients with standard priority are mailx and elm++, do we recommend people run them? I think mutt should have standard priority, nowadays is used by *many* people and for new users is MUCH

couple of nits/warnings

1999-10-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
As you may know, I have been working on a script to build selected subsets of the distribution from source, to be used for constructing single CD releases of ED (Essential Debian). With the correction of my faulty grep|awk filter I have been able to build more complex lists of packages (and can

Re: moving mutt to standard priority

1999-10-05 Thread Elie Rosenblum
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:00:38AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Oct 02, Edward Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MUA: mutt This is not the default, the only two mail clients with standard priority are mailx and elm++, do we recommend people run them? I think mutt should have standard

Re: moving mutt to standard priority

1999-10-05 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Marco d'Itri wrote: vi: vim I am not arguring this should be the recommended editor, just the recommended version of vi. I do not think that any package should be the recommended I agree... Why does it have a lower priority in alternatives than nvi? Just so that the 'Standard'

Need a developer contact in Colorado Springs area

1999-10-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
My son just moved to Colorado Springs (booo! not that there is anything wrong with Colorado Springs except the distance ;-( and while, over the past several years, I have had no luck in getting him interested in Linux, since he has moved, he has expressed an interest in learning to build programs

call for help with failed sparc package builds

1999-10-05 Thread Ben Collins
I haven't been able to keep up with failed builds for the sparc buildd daemon. So I'm asking for help (from maintainers and users alike) with checking the logs and finding solutions (some are fairly simple, just let me know). If you need access to a sparc for testing, all developers have access to

Re: Unstable release

1999-10-05 Thread David Bristel
apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade These two lines should be run after you update your /etc/apt/source.list to point to unstable. Dave Bristel On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, [iso-8859-1] Staffan Hämälä wrote: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:44:48

Re: Weird errors from update-alternatives

1999-10-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Daniel Burrows wrote: My system upgrade today (from yesterday's potato to today's potato) produced the following odd output: What version of dpkg do you have? Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes

I need some help during ALS

1999-10-05 Thread Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam
Hi All, As you all probably know, ALS is from Oct. 12 - 16 at Atlanta. I am having trouble running any kernel above 2.2.5 on my machine. If anyone is coming and would want to help me with this problem, I would appreciate it. I can bring my machine to the ALS hall. Regards, Vaidhy

Re: couple of nits/warnings

1999-10-05 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote: The second nit has to do with the way that dpkg assigns permissions to the package files it creates. I'm not certain why, but I sort of expected the files to be 664, not the 644 that it produces. If group projects are to be managable, shouldn't members

Re: doom source GPL'd

1999-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:21:26AM +, Andre Majorel wrote: - should their contract be enforced on the tools ? - if so, would that prevent them from going in the main section ? Note the collections of wads on CD for $15 or so... I have one such CD. The point is that you couldn't take the

Re: Uninstallable Packages

1999-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:13:51PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Packages with unknown dependencies: clanlib0-display-fbdev-dev clanlib0-display-ggi-dev clanlib0-display-glx clanlib0-display-glx-dev clanlib0-display-svgalib-dev clanlib0-display-x11-dev

Intent to give away: gradio, troffcvt

1999-10-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
I'd like to give away gradio and troffcvt to someone who is interested in maintaining them. I am willing to maintain them both indefinitely, but I do not use them any longer, so they aren't really anything I'm excited about. Neither one has any reported bugs. They have not yet been converted to

Intent to give away or REMOVE: tkstep

1999-10-05 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Ciao *, I state my complete lack of interest for tkstep, in both its 4.2 and 8.0 incarnations. 4.2 is now obsolete (as tk 4.2 is) and 8.0 is not kept updated by its upstream author. I use very few tk programs myself, so i'd like to find someone to give these packages to. IMHO both

RE: I need some help during ALS

1999-10-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Oct-99 Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote: Hi All, As you all probably know, ALS is from Oct. 12 - 16 at Atlanta. I am having trouble running any kernel above 2.2.5 on my machine. If anyone is coming and would want to help me with this problem, I would appreciate it. I can bring my

Re: Intent to give away: gradio, troffcvt

1999-10-05 Thread Ruud de Rooij
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes: gradio is a simple program suitable for a newbie maintainer, though I suppose we don't have any newbie maintainers given that we don't have any new maintainers. Even though I am not a newbie maintainer, I am willing to take this package, if noone else

Re: Intent to give away: gradio, troffcvt

1999-10-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ruud de Rooij) writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Pfaff) writes: gradio is a simple program suitable for a newbie maintainer, though I suppose we don't have any newbie maintainers given that we don't have any new maintainers. Even though I am not a newbie maintainer, I

Re: WHEN do you upload to grep and sed with multi-byte extension?

1999-10-05 Thread GOTO Masanori
From: Ryuichi Arafune [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WHEN do you upload to grep and sed with multi-byte extension? If you left them not supported multi-byte, Japanese users will not be happy to use debian. There is not enough time to release potato. If you cannot upload grep and sed with

DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS

1999-10-05 Thread Adam Heath
I just did an upgrade. The menu pkg ate memory like no tomorrow. I have a dual-330, 256m ram, 384m swap. Update-menus calls install-menu, and I saw that eating 280m of memory. root 19580 21.6 83.3 282784 215152 pts/8 R15:51 0:13 install-menu /etc/menu-methods//enlightenment-nosound

So whos going to ALS

1999-10-05 Thread Johnie Ingram
... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in Atlanta? Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from Dallas? netgod mwr Oh, and my /proc/kcore is over 50MB -- can I remove it and

RE: So whos going to ALS

1999-10-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Oct-99 Johnie Ingram wrote: ... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in Atlanta? Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from Dallas? Joey Hess and myself are going. We have one

Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS

1999-10-05 Thread David Coe
Adam == Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adam I just did an upgrade. The menu pkg ate memory like no Adam tomorrow. [...] Adam Cease and desist at all costs. Adam I have just been informed on irc that a fixed menu is in Adam incoming. So, it should all be fixed

Re: So whos going to ALS

1999-10-05 Thread Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam
If you can't find a place, you are welcome to stay at mine.I got space for threeif you can sleep in couch, more if you can sleep in a sleeping bag :) Regards, Vaidhy On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 04:55:12PM -0400, Johnie Ingram wrote: ... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503,

Re: Weird errors from update-alternatives

1999-10-05 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 11:28:01PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: Setting up tk8.2 (8.2.0-3) ... Checking available versions of wish, updating links in /etc/alternatives ... (You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.) Leaving wish (/usr/bin/wish) pointing to

Re: /usr/etc and /usr/local/etc?

1999-10-05 Thread goswin . brederlow
Richard Kaszeta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Schulze writes (Re: /usr/etc and /usr/local/etc?): Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: Just a quick inquiry -- Why is it that we exclude /usr/etc from our distribution? FHS and FSSTND Because configuration belongs to /etc. Period. Good

Re: Some developers still using slink?

1999-10-05 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:00:46AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: So how many other developers are not using unstable? Perhaps this should be taken up on another list, if you expect input from more than a few people. A list other than debian-devel? A list with a charter of

Re: should installed daemons automatically restart upon upgrade?

1999-10-05 Thread Ingo Saitz
MoiN On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 03:27:51PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: AFAIK, there is currently no way of `registering' update-rc.d commands such that they are repested after an upgrade. No, but you can move the S* links to K* links. This settings would be preserved by update-rc.d because it