John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:55:39AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
[...]
Any source that builds udebs is always frozen (openssl builds
libcrypto0.9.8-udeb). Udebs have to be moved into testing manualy and
without the freeze the source+deb and udeb
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:12:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:28:35PM +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote:
Is there a list of official documents (with photos) that we can consider
acceptable for a KSP?. If there's not we definitely need one.
However this is rather
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 06:02:07PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're missing the point that sonames track *ABI* changes, and -dev package
names should track *API* changes. Typically, upstreams make API changes on
new major releases; ABI changes
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:55:39AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
regards,
-- stratus
Any source that builds udebs is always frozen (openssl builds
libcrypto0.9.8-udeb). Udebs have to be moved into testing manualy and
without the freeze the
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On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:47:20PM -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
The Debian project heavily relies on keysigning for much of its
work. However, I think the question what the signing of a key
actually accomplishes has not been properly addressed. In my
opinion, from the point of view of the
On Sat, May 27, 2006, Steve Langasek wrote:
python-gnome has a build-dependency on libgtkhtml-dev which
should be trivially removable since none of its binary packages use it.
python-gnome is also deprecated and should go away when possible, I've
filed bugs on the rdeps already.
This one time, at band camp, Paul Johnson said:
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:49, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The vote at champoeg was when the Oregon Territory voted to become
Canadian. We're on the south side of the border exclusively due to
the
Hello Eduard,
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#include hallo.h
* Marco d'Itri [Sat, May 27 2006, 11:29:32AM]:
This is not a choice, every package which installs modules must run
depmod or they will not be available until a reboot.
Yes. But no package (besides maybe
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope. You will need to keep all normal debs anyway, for new
installations.
i thought it could be possible in the end to download the tree-package
and all its patches to then have the latest package for a new install!
so i thought there will be
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:57:10AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
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Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Goirand said:
Hello!
Is there somebody in Shanghai from Debian able to check my ID
and sign my key? If there is none,
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, this was proposed some times now. Have you actually read the old
threads and can explain why your proposal is better and actually works?
Why haven't you implemented it yet?
not right now. i just have found out that there were some same
Ralf Treinen wrote:
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:57:10AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
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Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Goirand said:
Hello!
Is there somebody in Shanghai from Debian able to check my ID
and
Scripsit Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is something, though, that I think would be a worthy addition to
future KSPs, if we continue to hold them: Many of us have our photo as
part of our key. Maybe if the printed sheet was not plain-text but
included those photos that are available, it
curt manucredo (hansycm) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope. You will need to keep all normal debs anyway, for new
installations.
i thought it could be possible in the end to download the tree-package
and all its patches to then have the latest
Quoting Andreas Barth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I know that Peter Palfrader (weasel) submits sometimes a clear fake key
to KSPs and looks for people signing it. (No, there is nobody there who
claims to be that person. Only the key on the list.)
For future reference, I personnally dislike people
Le Dim 28 Mai 2006 18:50, Matthias Klose a écrit :
Package: bugs.debian.org
Severity: serious
this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it, or stop it.
If you do want to do it correct, you have to keep information, which
On 27 May 2006, Paul Johnson told this:
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote:
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On 27 May
On 27 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell spake thusly:
Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But then again people could lookup say mexican IDs and visas before
going to a KSP in mexico so they have some clue what it should look
like.
Actually, in the present case, I believe it turns out
Hi,
It seems that the ftp-masters haven't looked at the NEW queue
during the last month (or maybe only for java), and its size is still
increasing (see http://haydn.debian.org/~corsac-guest/new/ ). I agree
that they may want to take vacations, but IMHO, NEW is such an
important process for
Your mail is not about general development of the Debian distribution
and thus rather on topic on debian-project, please follow-up there.
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 08:27:26PM +0200, Hans Kroegle wrote:
It seems that the ftp-masters haven't looked at the NEW queue
during the last month (or
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Bug reassigned from package `bugs.debian.org' to `general'.
severity 369257 normal
Bug#369257: remote bug tracking system doesn't look at versions
Severity set to
Your message dated Sun, 28 May 2006 12:10:07 -0700
with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and subject line Bug#369257: remote bug tracking system doesn't look at versions
has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done.
This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is
reassign 369257 general
severity 369257 normal
thanks
On Sun, 28 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it, or stop it.
This has nothing to do with bugs.debian.org or the BTS at all. Talk
after another slowdown last week i installed metacity. i killed
sawfish and started metacity without X restart. immediatly everything
was fine. so i assume this is a bug with sawfish. probably not with
sawfish itself but the integration of sawfish with gnome (and/or my
settings).
--
To
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:35:31AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
make install already runs depmod.
What if you don't use the 'install' target? I certainly don't. Does the
'modules_install' target also run depmod? I don't claim to understand what
the comments in the kernel Makefile say about it,
On May 28, Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:35:31AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
make install already runs depmod.
What if you don't use the 'install' target? I certainly don't. Does the
'modules_install' target also run depmod?
Yes.
I don't claim to
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:55:44PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On 27 May 2006, Gunnar Wolf verbalised:
For me, yes, some questions asked, some delays involved, but no
detailed background checks. I'm sure neither the FBI or the CIA (or,
as for Mexican authorities, CISEN or PGR) were
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 08:27:26PM +0200, Hans Kroegle wrote:
It seems that the ftp-masters haven't looked at the NEW queue
during the last month (or maybe only for java), and its size is still
increasing (see http://haydn.debian.org/~corsac-guest/new/ ). I agree
that they may want to take
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gregor herrmann wrote:
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 05:34:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Description : limits the cpu usage of a process
cpulimit is a simple program that attempts to limit the cpu usage of a
process (expressed in percentage,
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:47:20PM -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
Dear Manoj, dear fellow DDs,
Hi, I'm just going to address the question you made that was directed to me.
also sprach Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[2006.05.25.1300 -0500]:
FWIW, I noted down those keys I
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:07:01AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:07:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Only the dpkg:arch is required and that can be done with Provides:
dpkg-arch again.
Right. I wonder if
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Bug#369257: remote bug tracking system doesn't look at versions
Severity set to `serious' from `normal'
reopen 369257
severity 369257 serious
thanks
Don Armstrong writes:
reassign 369257 general
severity 369257 normal
thanks
On Sun, 28 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it, or stop
Hi,
First of all, my name is Martin Felix Krafft (with a final 't'), and
my GPG key ID is 0x330c4a75. The unofficial ID I presented listed
that name (without the middle name), a photo is available from [1]
(sorry, can't do better now). Thus, the ID card is an unofficial
card, but the
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 11:42:16PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
I think it's debconf time and everything is slower, but will be as
usual when it's end and everyone came back to his/her normal work.
The point of the first mail was exactly about that. NEW queue can't stay
unprocessed
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This has opened a can of worms; because your transnational ID was as
official as it could get. Most of us do not know what other countries
consider to be official, and it's more of an intent and goodwill
rather than scientific or legally binding
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 04:54 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:47:20PM -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
I imagine an improved protocol for the keysigning, which is based on
an idea I overheard after the party (and someone mentioned it in the
thread): instead of the
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- When the API becomes incompatible (which would implicitly make the
ABI incompatible), both the -dev and library package should increment their
numbers.
- When the ABI becomes incompatible without affecting the API, only
the library
Taking this to debian-devel...
also sprach Andrew McMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.05.28.1840 -0500]:
(c) Allocate partcipants to the groups in a round robin following
centrality order and starting with the most central.
This sounds great. We might want to consider letting people with
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 19:23 -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
Taking this to debian-devel...
also sprach Andrew McMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.05.28.1840 -0500]:
(c) Allocate partcipants to the groups in a round robin following
centrality order and starting with the most central.
This
On Mon, 29 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
Don Armstrong writes:
On Sun, 28 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it, or stop it.
This has nothing to do with bugs.debian.org or
On 5/29/06, martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, what do we do if the central people don't show up? It's been
known to happen at KSPs.
Put more than one in each subgroup, and have a coordinator ready to
shift the central people around if a given subgroup is really
orphaned. Or split
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This has opened a can of worms; because your transnational ID was as
official as it could get. Most of us do not know what other countries
consider to be official, and it's more of an intent and goodwill
rather than scientific or legally binding
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But the standards of reasonable are different for minors than for
adults. Right?
Constitutional law doesn't differentiate.
Yes, it does.
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Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, May 27, 2006, Steve Langasek wrote:
python-gnome has a build-dependency on libgtkhtml-dev which
should be trivially removable since none of its binary packages use it.
python-gnome is also deprecated and should go away when possible,
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I see you have never been in a large key signing party. There
is a certain expectation of trust, since no one can actrually detect
delibrate forgeries.
Except that there was nothing forged about Martin's ID card, as it has
been reported.
Don Armstrong writes:
On Mon, 29 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
Don Armstrong writes:
On Sun, 28 May 2006, Matthias Klose wrote:
this bug is fixed for 4.1; with these changes you invalidate the
information kept in the Debian BTS. Please fix it, or stop it.
This has nothing to
On Thu, 25 May 2006, El Presidente wrote:
I have seen on the internet that someone wanted to port debian to minix3, but
the report was old. Is there anyone that wants to port? I find it usefull.
I don't have the ability to do it, but if it works I will switch to it [ the
next versionof minix
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 19:23 -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
Taking this to debian-devel...
also sprach Andrew McMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.05.28.1840 -0500]:
(c) Allocate partcipants to the groups in a round robin following
centrality order and starting with the most central.
This
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:07:01AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:07:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Only the dpkg:arch is required and that can be done with Provides:
On 28 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell verbalised:
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I see you have never been in a large key signing party. There is a
certain expectation of trust, since no one can actrually detect
delibrate forgeries.
Except that there was nothing forged about
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 28 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell verbalised:
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I see you have never been in a large key signing party. There is a
certain expectation of trust, since no one can actrually detect
delibrate forgeries.
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If people start bringing in forged documents, no amount of caution
on part of laypeople like most software developers is proof against
such deception. If such deception is accepted behaviour, we may as
well throw out thetrust metric, and let /.
On 27 May 2006, martin f. krafft spake thusly:
Dear Manoj, dear fellow DDs,
I guess I could have known that this experiment of mine would turn
into a huge thread, unfortunately extending across two mailing
lists. Thus, it is surely in order for me to apologise for being the
cause that your
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On 27 May 2006, martin f. krafft spake thusly:
Dear Manoj, dear fellow DDs,
I guess I could have known that this experiment of mine would turn
into a huge thread, unfortunately extending across two mailing
lists. Thus, it is surely in order for me to apologise for
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Any act of deception, meant to exploit the weaknesses of the
system rather than participating in a key signing in good faith is
likely to have had this effect, yes.
That's true. What about Martin's actions, as they have been reported,
On 28 May 2006, Thomas Bushnell told this:
This may be true, except that *the document was not forged*.
So you continue to claim. And since you make statements like this
with no discernible means of you having verified them, I do not see
how discussion with you has any value whatsoever --
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Er, is it just me or isn't the point of gnupg that there *are* people
you *can't trust*. We wouldn't be needing digital signatures if
everybody honoured the 'gentleman's agreement' that we should only
sign as ourselves (or at most as a pseudonym that
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Once he has broken faith, nothing coming from that source can
be accepted, since the source is now tainted. Any information flow
with that origination is tainted, and since you offer the same
statements, without any form of untainting
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, 25 May 2006, El Presidente wrote:
I have seen on the internet that someone wanted to port debian to minix3, but
the report was old. Is there anyone that wants to port? I find it usefull.
I don't have the ability to do it, but if it works I
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 11:57:43PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
The identification showed his real name and real likeness [0]. He did not
misrepresent any information in either obtaining the document or in
presenting it to those who requested he identify himself.
The real issue is that,
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 09:22:10PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Once he has broken faith, nothing coming from that source can
be accepted, since the source is now tainted. Any information flow
with that origination is tainted, and
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:40:59AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
What problems with the information in the BTS are you talking about?
the usertags, which are wrongly set and removed.
please don't get me wrong; generally the btslink information is
useful, but I do see the BTS maintainers in
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 11:57:43PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
The identification showed his real name and real likeness [0]. He did not
misrepresent any information in either obtaining the document or in
presenting it to those who requested he
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 06:40:28PM -0500, Andrew McMillan wrote:
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 04:54 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:47:20PM -0500, martin f krafft wrote:
I imagine an improved protocol for the keysigning, which is based on
an idea I overheard after the party (and
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:40:59AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
What problems with the information in the BTS are you talking about?
the usertags, which are wrongly set and removed.
please don't get me wrong; generally the btslink information is
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