[Michael Poole]
On top of the default automake behavior being horribly broken, does
that make usual revision control practices horribly broken?
It really bothers me to hear people claim as a best practice that you
should never recompile configure.ac or Makefile.am except under
controlled
Philipp Matthias Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi!
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 09:34:52PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[Goswin von Brederlow]
Instead move the things in etc that need writing to other places:
1) link /etc/mtab to
* Nathanael Nerode:
In reality, as user A, I switched to using cdrdao for making serious audio
CDs and CD-RWs, and for burning disks from .iso files: this uses
Schilling's scsilib, but not the rest of cdrecord.
What about mkisofs?
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To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
* The system mta should provide /usr/sbin/sendmail, as well as
mailq, runq, and man pages. The alternative system is able to link
several alternatives.
[...]
* The service mta should provide a listening socket, on one or more
specified
Le Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 09:44:59PM +, David Nusinow a écrit :
First off, I'm excited about this package. But does this actually allow for
modification and redistribution? By use the data however they'd like,
does that include modification, or is it just reading the data?
Good question. I
Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:02:34PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
For dir_index you have to take the FS offline, tune2fs and fsck it or
you totaly corrupt it.
Actually, that's not true. It's perfectly safe to run tune2fs on a
mounted volume to
Marc Haber wrote:
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:06:59 +0100, Peter Collingbourne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I found there were no VMware-related packages in the official
repository, nor any way of creating them. Thus I propose to create
a tool that will build (for example for VMware Server)
Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[Michael Poole]
On top of the default automake behavior being horribly broken, does
that make usual revision control practices horribly broken?
It really bothers me to hear people claim as a best practice that you
should never recompile configure.ac
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Nathanael Nerode:
In reality, as user A, I switched to using cdrdao for making serious audio
CDs and CD-RWs, and for burning disks from .iso files: this uses
Schilling's scsilib, but not the rest of cdrecord.
What about mkisofs?
So far JS has not
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Florian Weimer wrote:
* Nathanael Nerode:
In reality, as user A, I switched to using cdrdao for making serious audio
CDs and CD-RWs, and for burning disks from .iso files: this uses
Schilling's scsilib, but not the rest of cdrecord.
What
Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 04:09:33PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
This is of course a lie.or why don't you like to prove it:
http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/problems.html
Come back to reallity, the k3b maintainers did already give up
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
That is a *very* bad idea.
Even only on a small details, I am please to see a few
people on a Debian mailing list not blindly accepting
whatever comes from the Ubuntu world.
Brand me a troll, but lately this looks like the trend
(see debian-project).
Ottavio
Ottavio
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:39:51AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
Joe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So I really wonder why mailing lists are so common.
It sort of depends on what you're looking for.
Some advantages of mailing lists:
* E-mail generally has a wider reach -- it gets past
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 09:40:41PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote:
Wouter Verhelst writes:
In my experience, this is greatly exacerbated and perhaps even
primarily due to older versions of autotools encouraging or requiring
behavior that later versions of autotools declare to be broken.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 01:47:59PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:39:51AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
* E-mail generally has a wider reach -- it gets past corporate
firewalls, (my company has never allowed external nntp connections),
works even on strange
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 03:59:26 -0700 (PDT)
Ottavio Caruso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
That is a *very* bad idea.
Even only on a small details, I am please to see a few
people on a Debian mailing list not blindly accepting
whatever comes from the Ubuntu world.
Because
I am the fledgling upstream maintainer of Bill Kendrick's game Tux, Of Math
Command aka Tuxmath. I have been working on making the program more
configurable, and it now reads and writes config files. The generic
(non-Debianized) make install target puts the program under /usr/local.
From my
hi david,
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 08:03:02AM -0400, David Bruce wrote:
1. Would it be impolite for the makefile for my program to simply go ahead
and create /usr/local/etc?
i don't think it would be appropriate for a debian package to ship a
/usr/local/etc directory, since configuration for
On 08/15/06 09:49:54AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
Hello,
This seems to be totally overengineered. Having MTA a provide sendmail
which uses MTA b for remote deliveries is no common usage scenario on
which any effort should be spent in the Debian packaging
infrastructure.
Actually the
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Jim Crilly wrote:
On 08/15/06 09:49:54AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
Hello,
This seems to be totally overengineered. Having MTA a provide sendmail
which uses MTA b for remote deliveries is no common usage scenario on
which any effort should be spent in the Debian
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:03:31 +0200, Bernd Schubert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ubuntu already has vmware kernel module packages
Yes, but adapting them to Debian seems to be nontrivial. I have not
yet been able to get them build on Debian.
Greetings
Marc
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On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:53:14AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Did they fix that? When I first looked into dir_index it was said that
it would corrupt the directories since it would search the old linear
dirs via hash and insert new entries by hash into linear dirs.
Who said that? I
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Stuart Anderson wrote:
This is actually a common setup when using amavis-ng, spamassasin and
And also the *recommended* setup for amavisd-new. But don't confuse two MTA
*paths* with two MTAs. A single MTA can handle the pre-filter and
post-filter paths just fine, if it is
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: iwatch
Version : 0.0.5
Upstream Author : Cahya Wirawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/iwatch
* License : GPL
Description : realtime filesystem monitoring program using inotify
Peter Samuelson wrote:
This program also shows sound waves, which makes it easier to
synchronise subtitles to voices.
No need to mention the competitors, really.
Changed, thanks. There is always this how will the user know what to
install? thingy. That's what I was trying to solve
* Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060814 23:30]:
The *real* problem with the whole autotools disaster is that it promotes
a braindead idea of how to achieve portability: a #ifdef branch for
every different system (or library version, or whatever), strewn
throughout the entire codebase. Real
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:39:36 +0900
Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Charles,
My plan is to re-ask before uploading, when sending a I am delighted to
tell you that your data is entering Debian mail. I will explain again that
being distributed in Debian means claiming that anybody
David Bruce wrote:
I am the fledgling upstream maintainer of Bill Kendrick's game Tux, Of Math
Command aka Tuxmath. I have been working on making the program more
configurable, and it now reads and writes config files. The generic
(non-Debianized) make install target puts the program
* Matthias Julius wrote:
[Mail vs. News]
* A mailing list is easier to distribute with a slow
server/connection. If a mail takes 3 minutes to show up in your
mailbox it doesn't matter. If each news post takes 15 seconds to
load it gets annoying.
Programs like slrnpull and leafnode which
I have written and collected some network testing scripts in a new
'ifupdown-extra' package which is right now available in
http://people.debian.org/~jfs/ifupdown-extra
This package provides additional scripts for ifupdown to test for some common
problems when setting up interfaces:
-
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 15.08.2006, 11:18 +1000 schrieb Brian May:
Besides, it is yet-another message I receive and I have to process -
keeping the message around for another week in case the moderator wont
accept the message is highly annoying and probably will mean that the
bug report gets
On 14-Aug-06, 17:32 (CDT), Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Montag 14 August 2006 23:27 schrieb Steve Greenland:
The *real* problem with the whole autotools disaster is that it promotes
a braindead idea of how to achieve portability: a #ifdef branch for
every different system
Norbert Tretkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Matthias Julius wrote:
[Mail vs. News]
* A mailing list is easier to distribute with a slow
server/connection. If a mail takes 3 minutes to show up in your
mailbox it doesn't matter. If each news post takes 15 seconds to
load it gets
On 14-Aug-06, 23:35 (CDT), Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve Greenland wrote:
Um, this is the exact opposite of the philosophy promoted by Autoconf since
at least version 2.0. Feature tests, not system tests. I can't speak to
other autotools.
Doesn't matter (feature tests was
Hi all,
As of today, Apache 2.2 is available from experimental (packagename:
apache2-mpm-{worker,prefork} etc). New features include LFS support, and
improved caching. For more info, see:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/new_features_2_2.html and
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/upgrading.html .
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 02:11:21PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
No, you don't #ifdef all the users, you write multiple versions of a a
generic function that hides the differences, and compile the appropriate
one. Read the reference I gave.
Sure, you *could* do this with autoconf driving the
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Thomas Bushnell:
As a countermeasure, the FSF tries to extend copyright to interfaces,
so that you do create a derivative work merely by programming to a
specific interface of a library written by someone else, without
copying their code. I'm not
[Goswin von Brederlow]
The big problem is that those autogenerated build scripts will be non
deterministic on the buildd network and on users system. Depending on
the installed packages (automake/autoconf versions) you get different
results and often failures. :(
What low expectations we
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 05:39:36PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 09:44:59PM +, David Nusinow a écrit :
First off, I'm excited about this package. But does this actually allow for
modification and redistribution? By use the data however they'd like,
does that
Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:53:14AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Did they fix that? When I first looked into dir_index it was said that
it would corrupt the directories since it would search the old linear
dirs via hash and insert new entries by
Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[Goswin von Brederlow]
The big problem is that those autogenerated build scripts will be non
deterministic on the buildd network and on users system. Depending on
the installed packages (automake/autoconf versions) you get different
results and often
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* E-mail generally has a wider reach -- it gets past corporate
firewalls, (my company has never allowed external nntp connections),
works even on strange systems, etc.
Point. Then again, if your corporate sysadmins don't want you reading
Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And guess what? System tests are actually more reliable, especially
when the user tells you what the system is. You can simply flip to
compiling foo_linux.c or foo_solaris.c and go on your way.
If you only port to 2 or 3 different very well-defined
[Goswin von Brederlow]
Even make breaks from time to time. I distinctly remeber an update of
make that caused problems. There are also several gcc versions that
are quite different in their behaviour.
Yes, and we treat such instances as bugs and fix them - whether it's
fixing your packages or
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