Cher Développeurs Debian,
Avant de commencer la création d'un nouveau paquet, je souhaiterais vous
solliciter pour savoir si un équivalent ne serait pas déjà existant.
L'objectif de cet outils est très similaire au fonctionnement des Initscripts
du System-V
Ce programme du style initd
hi carlos,
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 22:33 -0700, Carlos Ramirez wrote:
Is a file, webpage or command that can provide a list of packages that
are part of the Debian base system? I tried searching in various places
without much luck. Any help in the right direct is appreciated.
the easiest way:
Sean,
Thanks for the info. It seems that all those would give me the info I
want. I was thinking that I would be able to get that info from the
actual build files of the Debian distribution itself, does there exists
such a beast?
I'm trying to compile a list packages that are common to 'base
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 07:33, Carlos Ramirez wrote:
Is a file, webpage or command that can provide a list of packages that
are part of the Debian base system? I tried searching in various places
without much luck. Any help in the right direct is appreciated.
You could use debootstrap:
Hello!
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:09:30AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Wilfried Goesgens said:
* Package name: citadel
...
However, I have one question that has made me leery of it
so far: does it really need it's own implementation of all of those
Hi,
Ad backports importance,
I know there is backports.org -however this, and the testing, unstable,
stable, volatile, experimental.. So many package versions, so much
duplicate work.. Other hand, there's nothing official and
recommended excepting the stable. Using anything else, You're on
The kernel, the X.org
I realise, that the kernel and X.org are somewhat delicate things,
because they affect both desktop and server. Changing them in the middle
of release life, might not sound too well.
However, at least by the means of the kernel, the server world also
needs new hardware
On Tue, 15 May 2007 08:19:50 +0200, sean finney wrote:
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 22:33 -0700, Carlos Ramirez wrote:
Is a file, webpage or command that can provide a list of packages that
are part of the Debian base system? I tried searching in various places
without much luck. Any help in the
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 11:36, Sam Morris wrote:
Some poiking about in apt's Packages list as described by sean will do
the trick, although there is also a 'Priority: important' level, which
I assume is installed by default along with required packages.
Priority important packages are part of
Hi,
On Tue, 15.05.2007 at 18:11:03 +1000, Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 03:51:40PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
Some of us have homes, and other property that we would rather not place
at risk of any lawsuit connected with our Free Software activities. The
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Also, some people might be relaying in the file's current location for
something. Should I put a symlink in their place?
Just a warning: Symlinks that are shipped in the deb and point to
Does all this project involve only proper Debian Developers, or also people
who are maintaining Debian packages without being full Debian Developers?
Also, we're only talking about Developers who live in the USA, or that have
that nationality, aren't we?
Greetings,
Miry
Toni Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] Eg. IFF they (hypthetically) were to
successfully sue the FSF, then we'd lose a large chunk of important
stuff because the copyrights held by the FSF will probably be
confiscated in order to pay the damages. [...]
Even if that is the case (what is
Hi,
Thank you for sharing your point of view. But you draw too many
conclusions. You speak out of rumors and experience and you fail to
understand that Debian is not a Desktop-only distribution.
Get involved and learn our development process, you'll discover that you
can't rely on many
Hi, Raphael
Testing is usable. I used it through the whole development cycle of etch.
Bugs are unavoidable, you said it yourself. It's a matter of how many
problems you can accept.
Yes, bugs are unavoidable. However, testing is often in situation whole
system broken or nearly useless. I see
Hello,
On Le Tuesday 15 May 2007, à 14:01:28, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Testing should simply be the place where _platform_ changes are shaken
out, not the input buffer for the new software.
Actually sid is where the platform changes are done. And once they're OK,
they get moved to testing
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 14:44, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
Yes, bugs are unavoidable. However, testing is often in situation
whole system broken or nearly useless. I see difference here;
occassional bug in desktop app is acceptable. Whole system unreliable
is not acceptable.
Can you
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
Yes, bugs are unavoidable. However, testing is often in situation whole
system broken or nearly useless. I see difference here; occassional
bug in desktop app is acceptable. Whole system unreliable is not acceptable.
Have you facts to assert
We're going OT, however my experience based on last two Debian releases:
testing becomes quite stable in means of usability somewhere half year
before it's released as stable. The sooner before the stable, the
rapidly increasing is the chance that the snapshot that You have will
not be
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
We're going OT, however my experience based on last two Debian releases:
testing becomes quite stable in means of usability somewhere half year
before it's released as stable. The sooner before the stable, the
rapidly increasing is the chance
Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:24:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Maybe I misunderstand, but wouldn't something like (= 1.0.1-1) and (
1.0.1-2) be more correct? That way the package is still binNMU safe and
also safe from breaking if
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 03:49:07PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:24:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Maybe I misunderstand, but wouldn't something like (= 1.0.1-1) and (
1.0.1-2) be more
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:55:40PM +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky [EMAIL
PROTECTED] was heard to say:
Debian developers often see Ubuntu the enemy and are mocking it as
inferior technology. However, they fail to see, what does the Debian
really offer to desktop users eventually. They fail to
Hi,
we've run across a problem with our texlive packages, and I'd like to
get some opinions, in particular regarding dpkg behavior.
TeX Live is one big thing upstream (one DVD) and has been split for
Debian packaging into one arch:any and four arch:all source packages
with numerous binary
On 14-May-07, 19:35 (CDT), Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 05/14/07 17:23, Wilfried Goesgens wrote:
Description : Citadel.org is an highly integrated Groupware Platform
with a Web 2.0 enabled Webinterface, but also providing SMTP, IMAP, POP3
and GroupDAV access to its
On 14-May-07, 14:40 (CDT), Andreas Fester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just investigating a bug where the issue seems
that no print system is installed
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=420746)
That raised the question: would it make sense to add a
virtual package like
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 03:49:07PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:24:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Maybe I misunderstand, but wouldn't something like (= 1.0.1-1) and (
1.0.1-2) be more correct? That way the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Eric Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: python-sasync
Version : 0.4
Upstream Author : Edwin A. Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://foss.eepatents.com/sAsync
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Python
I just released webcalendar 1.1.2 to experimental. Although this version is
considered to be a development version by the upstream author (1.0.5 is the
recommended production release), it is good to have the 1.1.* branch in
experimental, such that upgrade problems are detected before Webcalendar
Hi,
John Goerzen wrote:
I guess I have to just ask: how useful is this?
This is really a quite trivial calculation, and many apps/websites
perform it automatically these days anyway.
It's right, but rsync only display upload/download time for one file,
even if You transfer 20 files. And
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:20:22PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:
Yes, but in reality what is the likelihood that either a security update
or NMU would introduce an incompatible change? I would say that such a
possibility is extremely low.
Why couldn't a security change require making
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
bug #420578
Oh, since your statement confused me a bit, but reading the bug log
clarified it: The problem is not with any symlink pointing to conffiles,
in particular not with the common case of fixing
On 15-May-07, 04:25 (CDT), Mgr. Peter Tuharsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do You think, that
-compiling new upstream version of software against stable platform,
building a package and distributing it
-needs more effort than
-studying security fixes in upstream, backporting them to ancient
On 15-May-07, 08:27 (CDT), Mgr. Peter Tuharsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We're going OT, however my experience based on last two Debian releases:
testing becomes quite stable in means of usability somewhere half year
before it's released as stable. The sooner before the stable, the
rapidly
On 14-May-07, 07:55 (CDT), Mgr. Peter Tuharsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ask somebody, what distro would he install at desktop for novice or M$
refugee? Why many are choosing Ubuntu instead of Debian, and even worse,
abandon Debian in favor of Ubuntu?
Why is this worse? Why isn't there room
Hi all,
I have several machines (all T60s) at work running Debian/Etch/AMD64
suffering the same problem: when copying large files over network the
system suddenly freezes and is only rebootable via power-off button.
I can reproduce this bug pretty constantly when running pptp but was not
able to
Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is a downside. If you work on behalf of such an entity, you would
have to agree to act at their direction, which means acting responsbily
on their behalf, by not doing stupid stuff that obviously increases the
corporation's risk of being sued.
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
We're going OT, however my experience based on last two Debian releases:
testing becomes quite stable in means of usability somewhere half year
before it's released as stable. The sooner before the stable, the rapidly
increasing is the chance
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:44:05AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
On 14-May-07, 14:40 (CDT), Andreas Fester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just investigating a bug where the issue seems
that no print system is installed
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=420746)
That
Le mardi 15 mai 2007 à 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster a écrit :
TeX Live is one big thing upstream (one DVD) and has been split for
Debian packaging into one arch:any and four arch:all source packages
with numerous binary packages each. Generally, you cannot assume a
system to work properly which
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Steve Greenland wrote:
[...]
That raised the question: would it make sense to add a
virtual package like print-system or similar, which
is provided by cupsys-client, lpr et al. and which I
can suggest or recommend in my package?
Well, given the
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 04:28:39PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
B. texlive-common could declare
Conflicts: long_list_of_texlive_packages_each_with_old_upstreamversion
But how would that work upon upgrade?
Very, very poorly. Versioned conflicts are advocated against in Policy 7.3,
because
Hi,
I maintain uswsusp. It is a package that relies on a binary on the
initramfs that will start the resume process. This binary (and some
other stuff) get installed via an update-initramfs call in the postinst.
On some updates, the new binary that suspends the system is
incompatible with the old
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Eric Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: python-twisted-goodies
Version : 0.2
Upstream Author : Edwin A. Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://foss.eepatents.com/Twisted-Goodies
* License : GPL
Programming
Hi,
I maintain uswsusp. It is a package that relies on a binary on the
initramfs that will start the resume process. This binary (and some
other stuff) get installed via an update-initramfs call in the postinst.
On some updates, the new binary that suspends the system is
incompatible
The message that you sent to me (Deen Foxx) has not yet been delivered:
From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: sp: News
Date: Tue, 16 May 2007 01:15:44 -0300 (MSK)
I am now using Vanquish to avoid spam. This automated message
is an optional feature of that service, which I have
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 09:20:00AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Well, my experience is that rarely do the RFP result in anyone
stepping up, and as I need the package and did the work already, I saw
no use in not making it available from the Debian archive.
I'll maintain powertop if you're
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 14:55 +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
Ask somebody, what distro would he install at desktop for novice or
M$ refugee?
For me the choice is clear. I use Debian for myself. I choose to support
Ubuntu for people that do not want as many choices. This is what M$
refugees
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:16:54PM -0400, Confirmation from Deen Foxx wrote:
The message that you sent to me (Deen Foxx) has not yet been delivered:
From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: sp: News
Date: Tue, 16 May 2007 01:15:44 -0300 (MSK)
I am now using Vanquish to avoid spam.
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 21:43 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
We're going OT, however my experience based on last two Debian
releases:
testing becomes quite stable in means of usability somewhere half
year
before it's released as stable. The
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 01:14:01PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:20:22PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:
Yes, but in reality what is the likelihood that either a security update
or NMU would introduce an incompatible change? I would say that such a
possibility
also sprach Tim Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.05.15.2201 +0200]:
Now what do people think is the best option? (And why?)
I use -k all in mdadm already. I could not find any reasons why that
would not be a good idea.
--
Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list!
.''`.
i'd appreciate if you post such questions to the corresponding
development mailing list which is debian-kernel for initramfs
questions.
thanks
Current pratice is to only call `update-initramfs -u', that is, to only
update the most recent initramfs. This however will break older
initramfses (I
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 15:54, maximilian attems wrote:
afaik uswsusp does not support full 2.6.15 range,
so better stay on the safe side.
What about 2.6.18? I am not sure Debian should be that worried about kernels
before the one that shipped with the last stable.
wt
--
Warren Turkal,
Le Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:50:50PM -0400, Greg Folkert a écrit :
f, Usability problems, wishes and bugs should get fixed too. I should
be able to report a problem, participate on it's solution and see
fruits of that.
Have you even looked at Debian's BTS? Unless your patch or bug is a
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 09:41:17AM +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
The kernel, the X.org
So are you volunteering to join the kernel and XSF teams to make this
happen?
- David Nusinow
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On Wednesday 16 May 2007 01:11, Charles Plessy wrote:
Maybe at each point release, the release notes could be
updated on the basis of these messages. Things like emacs21 does not
have full unicode support, but you can display chinese characters if
you install the mule-ucs package. for
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Bernd Zeimetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: python-snpp
Version : 1.1.1
Upstream Author : Monty Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.sf.net/projects/pysnpp
* License : GPL2
Programming Lang: Python
Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
where to find available RC bugs:
http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?ignore=sidignnew=onnew=5
I'm just curious - the ignore=sid part means exclude bugs that only
affect sid, correct? Which means bugs which affect lenny but are
already fixed in sid are still
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
Well, the ~ character is stated to be evaluated to be less than the
empty string. If a package is the target of a security upload in
stable, you can be certain that the testing/unstable version will also
increase when the new package is introduced to fix the problem
David Claughton wrote:
Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
where to find available RC bugs:
http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?ignore=sidignnew=onnew=5
I'm just curious - the ignore=sid part means exclude bugs that only
affect sid, correct? Which means bugs which affect lenny but are
already
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