Re: Anniv' Debian 16 août 2009

2009-08-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar, 2009-08-11 at 00:29 +0200, Carl Chenet wrote: Mardi 18 ça semble bien. Reste à trouver le lieu. ++ Comme je suis un chafouin, et que j'aime bien les threads qui trainent en longueur sans rien décider, je propose un CHOIX (et ouais !) - Le (tradditionnel) Trappiste, 4 rue St Denis, M.

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Bastian Blank wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:40:35PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article 20090811183800.ge5...@const.famille.thibault.fr you wrote: Not necessarily. Any sane implementation should just use wchar_t Which could be UTF16 and therefore still has complicatd length

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Giacomo A. Catenazzi, le Wed 12 Aug 2009 07:54:33 +0200, a écrit : Samuel Thibault wrote: Gunnar Wolf, le Tue 11 Aug 2009 13:28:08 -0500, a écrit : while length(str) in any language up to the 1990s was a mere substraction, now we must go through the string checking each byte to see if it

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Giacomo A. Catenazzi, le Wed 12 Aug 2009 08:03:30 +0200, a écrit : Bastian Blank wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:40:35PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article 20090811183800.ge5...@const.famille.thibault.fr you wrote: Not necessarily. Any sane implementation should just use wchar_t

Remove control field Conflicts if the package is no longer in the repository

2009-08-12 Thread Timur Birsh
Hello Debian Developers, I've recently uploaded (thanks to Bart Martens for sponsoring) my first package and want to adopt the next one. It's cd-discid [1]. Its debian/control file contains the Conflicts field. This package conflicts with cdgrab ( 0.7), which is no longer exists in the

What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi, the question in the subject may sound a bit naive, but I’m starting to wonder why we still set the Standards-Version in package control files. AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the package is supposed to conform to. This way, we have a way to enforce which

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version ?

2009-08-12 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Josselin Mouette wrote: Hi, the question in the subject may sound a bit naive, but I’m starting to wonder why we still set the Standards-Version in package control files. AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the package is supposed to conform to. This way, we have

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:56:49AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Giacomo A. Catenazzi, le Wed 12 Aug 2009 08:03:30 +0200, a écrit : Bastian Blank wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:40:35PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article 20090811183800.ge5...@const.famille.thibault.fr you wrote:

MBF for removal of python-gnome2-desktop binary package

2009-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi, due to some upcoming changes in the list of supported modules upstream, the python-gnome2-desktop binary package will be removed soon. Packages must depend on the individual modules instead. For example, if the only module used is gnomeapplet, you must depend on python-gnomeapplet instead.

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:54:33AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Samuel Thibault wrote: Gunnar Wolf, le Tue 11 Aug 2009 13:28:08 -0500, a écrit : while length(str) in any language up to the 1990s was a mere substraction, now we must go through the string checking each byte to see if

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Thomas Koch
It's impressing how quickly threads on this list grow big. :-) I'm not sure, whether a conclusion is already reached. 1. apt-get install mysql 2. enter mysql client 3. create database test; create table test( test char(10) ); Replace mysql with whatever application you like. What should be the

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Russ Allbery wrote: Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: If we use build IDs (and this has quite some advantages, like being able to do more than just dump the ddebs on a repository), this can lead to having the same detached debugging symbols in two binary packages, since sometimes a

Re: MBF for removal of python-gnome2-desktop binary package

2009-08-12 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Josselin Mouette wrote: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort po...@ubuntu.com scribes Python Applications Packaging Team python-apps-t...@lists.alioth.debian.org scribes (U) Fixed in trunk. Cheers, Emilio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 01:18:12PM +0200, Thomas Koch wrote: I'm not sure, whether a conclusion is already reached. 1. apt-get install mysql 2. enter mysql client 3. create database test; create table test( test char(10) ); Replace mysql with whatever application you like. What should

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:59:09 +0200 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: However I think this approach doesn’t fit the current way we deal with policy changes. The de facto way of dealing with policy breakages currently is to directly report serious bugs against packages not conforming,

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: Hi, the question in the subject may sound a bit naive, but I’m starting to wonder why we still set the Standards-Version in package control files. AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the package is supposed to

Re: Remove control field Conflicts if the package is no longer in the repository

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Timur Birsh wrote: Hello Debian Developers, I've recently uploaded (thanks to Bart Martens for sponsoring) my first package and want to adopt the next one. It's cd-discid [1]. Its debian/control file contains the Conflicts field. This package conflicts with cdgrab (

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:59:09 +0200 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: However I think this approach doesn’t fit the current way we deal with policy changes. The de facto way of dealing with policy breakages currently is to directly report

Re: Remove control field Conflicts if the package is no longer in the repository

2009-08-12 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Timur Birsh wrote: Hello Debian Developers, I've recently uploaded (thanks to Bart Martens for sponsoring) my first package and want to adopt the next one. It's cd-discid [1]. Its debian/control file contains the Conflicts field. This package

Re: Remove control field Conflicts if the package is no longer in the repository

2009-08-12 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Timur Birsh wrote: Hello Debian Developers, I've recently uploaded (thanks to Bart Martens for sponsoring) my first package and want to adopt the next one. It's cd-discid [1]. Its debian/control file contains the

Re: Debian packaging license (was: Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines).

2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Yu
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Romain Beauxisto...@rastageeks.org wrote: Le lundi 10 août 2009 09:58:04, Jonathan Yu a écrit : On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Charles Plessyple...@debian.org wrote: Le Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:20

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 12 août 2009 à 08:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the package is supposed to conform to. This way, we have a way to enforce which policy versions are supported, e.g. in a stable release, by forbidding the

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roger Leigh, le Wed 12 Aug 2009 11:30:50 +0100, a écrit : The default is UTF-32 or UTF-16, whichever corresponds to the width of wchar_t. This documentation is bogus BTW. It should read UCS-4 or UCS-2. It's strictly correct according to the standard.

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version ?

2009-08-12 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 12 août 2009 à 08:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the package is supposed to conform to. This way, we have a way to enforce which policy versions are supported, e.g. in a stable release,

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:17 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: In many cases, wouldn't such a relationship be better expressed by a dependency on a package that implemented the new behaviour? Often it's dpkg and many of those situations are already handled via just such a

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: What would you think of deprecating this header? This would be bad, since when someone looks at the package, they would not know easily what they have to look for to update the package. The Standards

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 12 août 2009 à 08:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the package is supposed to conform to. This way, we have a way to enforce which policy versions are supported,

Re: Remove control field Conflicts if the package is no longer in the repository

2009-08-12 Thread Timur Birsh
Hi, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: I think that as long as the package (cdgrab, in this case) is not longer in stable, the conflicts line may be removed (we support partial upgrades from stable, as far as is possible). In this case, apparently cdgrab is not anywhere, so the conflicts

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Neil Williamscodeh...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: What would you think of deprecating this header?         This would be bad, since when someone looks at the package, they  would not know

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Roeth
On Aug 12, Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org) wrote: Le mercredi 12 août 2009 à 08:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the package is supposed to conform to. This way, we have a way to enforce which policy versions

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: What would you think of deprecating this header? This would be bad, since when someone looks at the package, they would not know easily what they have to look

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:17 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: In many cases, wouldn't such a relationship be better expressed by a dependency on a package that implemented the new behaviour? Often it's dpkg and many of those

Re: What’ s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:10:43AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:17 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: In many cases, wouldn't such a relationship be better expressed by a dependency on a package

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 13:03:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Open questions: * Can we require a one-to-one correspondance between binary package names and debug package names that provide symbols for that binary package? I think we should; I think it would make the system more

Re: What’ s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 04:36:23PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: The only /real/ use for the standards version is using it as a starting point for upgrading to the current standards version, and that's already making the (rather naïve) assumption that it was already fully conforming with Policy to

Re: Bug#540365: ITP: turnin-ng -- Assignment submitter and manager

2009-08-12 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 16:40:44 -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 05:23:43PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: I hope the packages uploaded won't have a «project» binary in the PATH? At the moment yes, Turnin-NG provides /usr/bin/project since that's what the original turnin /

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:10:43AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:17 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: In many cases, wouldn't such a relationship be better

Bug#541223: ITP: libtext-dhcpleases-perl -- libtext-dhcpleases-perl -- an object-oriented interface to ISC DHCPD leases files

2009-08-12 Thread Javier Uruen Val
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Javier Uruen Val j...@warp.es * Package name: libtext-dhcpleases-perl Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Carlos Vicente cvice...@cpan.org * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Text-DHCPLeases/ * License : (Perl Artistic)

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 12 août 2009 à 11:06 -0400, Neil Roeth a écrit : I've had some packages for years during which policy was changed and required corresponding changes in my packages. In that case, the previous developer was me, so I'm pretty confident that the previous developer did at least as

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version ?

2009-08-12 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Josselin Mouette wrote: Hi, the question in the subject may sound a bit naive, but I’m starting to wonder why we still set the Standards-Version in package control files. AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the package is supposed to conform to. This way, we

Re: What’ s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I do not have a strong opinion about this, apart from the fact that it must be present in the sources when someone is looking to update the package, and it should be accessible before downloading all the sources. So having it in the

Bug#541239: ITP: GT.M -- Database Engine with Extreme Scalability and Robustness

2009-08-12 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: K.S. Bhaskar ks.bhas...@fnis.com * Package name: GT.M Version : V5.3-004A Upstream Author : K.S. Bhaskar ks.bhas...@fnis.com * URL : http://fis-gtm.com * License : AGPL v3 Programming Lang: C with some modules in x86

Bug#541242: ITP: VistA -- Real time health care information system including electronic health record

2009-08-12 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: K.S. Bhaskar ks.bhas...@fnis.com * Package name: VistA Version : To be determined Upstream Author : K.S. Bhaskar ks.bhas...@fnis.com * URL : http://worldvista.org/AboutVistA * License : Public domain, GPL v2, AGPL v3

Bug#541245: ITP: WorldVistA EHR -- WorldVistA EHR is a repackage and extended version of VistA produced by WorldVistA

2009-08-12 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: K.S. Bhaskar ks.bhas...@fnis.com * Package name: WorldVistA EHR Version : VOE/ 1.0 Upstream Author : K.S. Bhaskar ks.bhas...@fnis.com * URL : http://worldvista.org/World_VistA_EHR * License : GPL v2 Programming Lang:

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: This assumes that the previous developer has correctly updated the package according to the stated Standards version. Which is, in the general case, wrong. No, it assumes that the previous developer tried to update the package according to the stated

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Neil Roeth
On Aug 12, Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org) wrote: Le mercredi 12 août 2009 à 11:06 -0400, Neil Roeth a écrit : I've had some packages for years during which policy was changed and required corresponding changes in my packages. In that case, the previous developer was me,

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort poch...@gmail.com writes: I'd be in favour of making it optional or deprecating it if we (as in the project) were good in adding checks to lintian for changes in the policy or reporting bugs where it's not possible (or in addition to the checks). I already attempt to

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: In which case all we need is the existing lintian check and for Standards-Version to be ignored by dpkg-dev so that it doesn't get into the .dsc, it doesn't get into the Sources.gz and it is finally OK to get rid of all these pointless messages in

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote: On Tue Aug 11 10:12, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Personally I don't think we should do a GR to recommend a freeze or release date. We already used the DPL election to push a release, when it was *long* due, but I don't think we should push a

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 12 août 2009 à 14:17 -0400, Neil Roeth a écrit : If people don't have time to handle all their packages properly, they should reduce the number of packages they maintain. I’ve seen this kind of arguments again and again, and every time it looks more stupid to me. If you don’t have

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11826 March 1977, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: The proposal is (very briefly) to make dak accept .ddeb packages (containing debugging symbols using build-ids), and to then modify helper tools to automatically generate them and add them to the changes file. I've written down the details

I want to delete an ITP

2009-08-12 Thread Leinier Cruz Salfran
Hello. I'm creating my first package, after reading the debian policy and others mails in 'debian-mentors' list I want to delete the ITP Bug #539568 in order to create a new one with the same library but with other name .. How can I do that? Thanks signature.asc Description: Esta parte

Re: I want to delete an ITP

2009-08-12 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hello Leinier, first of all, this question is more fit for debian-mentors that for -devel, so I'm adding the list to CC (please follow up there, removing -devel). 2009/8/12 Leinier Cruz Salfran salfra...@ipigto.rimed.cu: Hello. I'm creating my first package, after reading the debian policy and

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Harald Braumann
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:03:30 +0100 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 01:18:12PM +0200, Thomas Koch wrote: I'm not sure, whether a conclusion is already reached. 1. apt-get install mysql 2. enter mysql client 3. create database test; create table test(

Re: What's the use for Standards-Versio n?

2009-08-12 Thread David Claughton
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: * updated Standards-Version (no changes needed) Firstly, you do not ahve to put that into the changelog, and, secondly, one should

Re: What's the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Daniel Moerner
On 08/12/2009 03:01 PM, David Claughton wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: * updated Standards-Version (no changes needed) Firstly, you do not ahve to put that into

Re: What's the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Moerner dmoer...@gmail.com writes: I don't think that anyone was every seriously defending that people do uploads just to bump the Standards-Version, I think the objection was more that bumping the Standards-Version needlessly clutters the changelog and wastes space. I'll admit I don't

Re: What's the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread David Claughton
Daniel Moerner wrote: On 08/12/2009 03:01 PM, David Claughton wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:14 -0500 Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: * updated Standards-Version (no changes needed) Firstly, you do

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:07:33PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Any thoughts? We could have such a vote over and done in about two weeks, with the DPL's consent, and it'd seem a lot more inclusive and less cabal-tastic than how things seem to be working atm... Personally, I think the last thing

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:17:55PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Quantity of .ddebs: Usually there should only be one .ddeb per source. Of course there are always exceptions from the rule, so Maintainers may chose to have one per binary package. This should only be taken when the size of the

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:17:55PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Quantity of .ddebs: Usually there should only be one .ddeb per source. Of course there are always exceptions from the rule, so Maintainers may chose to have one per binary package. This should only be taken when

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:44:36PM +0200, Harald Braumann wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:03:30 +0100 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 01:18:12PM +0200, Thomas Koch wrote: I'm not sure, whether a conclusion is already reached. 1. apt-get install mysql

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort poch...@gmail.com writes: Roger Leigh wrote: This fails to address the rather valid concern brought up about having different versions of libraries and binaries installed from the same source package. Having one .ddeb per binary would solve this elegantly. Except

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:58:45 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: If that bothers you, you can use the share we plan to provide. I'd like to still be able to debug offline, thank you very much. So far you've avoided answering the question, though: why one ddeb per source instead of per

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Russ Allbery wrote: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort poch...@gmail.com writes: Roger Leigh wrote: This fails to address the rather valid concern brought up about having different versions of libraries and binaries installed from the same source package. Having one .ddeb per binary would solve this

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:58:45AM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:17:55PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Quantity of .ddebs: Usually there should only be one .ddeb per source. Of course there are always exceptions from the rule, so

Re: default character encoding for everything in debian

2009-08-12 Thread Harald Braumann
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:03:43 +0100 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:44:36PM +0200, Harald Braumann wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:03:30 +0100 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 01:18:12PM +0200, Thomas Koch wrote: I'm

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort poch...@gmail.com writes: Russ Allbery wrote: Except that in that case, the old library will be NBS and thus I see no point why you would want to keep it installed. The only reason would be if it was meant to stay around, but in that case I'm sure the source package

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: There will still be a repository with all the .ddebs. And aptitude and dpkg will know how to install ddebs, somehow? and synaptic, etc? But also we will have a share that will ship all the debugging symbols in a build id file

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Manoj Srivastavasriva...@debian.org wrote:        I too am wondering if we should defer the polivy change until  the details get shaken out with a partial deployment of the scheme. Full deployment already happened (in Ubuntu). -- bye, pabs

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Manoj Srivastavasriva...@debian.org wrote:        I too am wondering if we should defer the polivy change until  the details get shaken out with a partial deployment of the scheme. Full deployment already happened (in

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Russ Allberyr...@debian.org wrote: As .ddebs?  What's the policy about what can go in them and how are they integrated with the packaging tools?  And could you point me at the Ubuntu share for the debugging information so that I can see what protocols it's

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: Not having anything to do with Ubuntu, I don't know anything about the details, but they have had automatic debug packages and automated crash report stuff for quite a while, a couple of years IIRC. The specs for that are here:

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le mercredi 12 août 2009 04:59:09, Josselin Mouette a écrit : AIUI, this header is here to indicate which version of the policy the package is supposed to conform to. This way, we have a way to enforce which policy versions are supported, e.g. in a stable release, by forbidding the too old

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Manoj Srivastavasriva...@debian.org wrote:        I too am wondering if we should defer the polivy change until  the details get shaken out with a partial deployment of the scheme.

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org writes: But there could be another use of this field, which would fit into the test- driven workflow. What about a tool that displays the changes in the policy based on the declared supported version and the latest version ? Like: zcat

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le mercredi 12 août 2009 23:22:45, Russ Allbery a écrit : Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org writes: But there could be another use of this field, which would fit into the test- driven workflow. What about a tool that displays the changes in the policy based on the declared supported

Re: What’ s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org (12/08/2009): zcat /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz \ | sed /`grep Standards-Version debian/control | awk '{ print $2 }'`/Q ? I just use zless on that file and stop reading when I get to the current Standards-Version of the

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-08-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 12 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: Not having anything to do with Ubuntu, I don't know anything about the details, but they have had automatic debug packages and automated crash report stuff for quite a while, a couple of years IIRC. The specs for

Re: What’ s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org (12/08/2009): Is it foolish to propose this as a lintian check ? Hey, standards version is outdated, here are the changes that ought to be done checks/standards-version.desc Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: What’ s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:44:26PM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : IIRC, there is a plan for splitting Descriptions out of the Packages files For the curious, there is some extra information here: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-l10n-devel/2009-August/000507.html In my experience,

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le jeudi 13 août 2009 00:09:09, Cyril Brulebois a écrit : Romain Beauxis to...@rastageeks.org (12/08/2009): Is it foolish to propose this as a lintian check ? Hey, standards version is outdated, here are the changes that ought to be done checks/standards-version.desc Please, pretty

Re: What’s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Romain Beauxisto...@rastageeks.org wrote: What I mean is that we can use the information contained in the standards- version tag and display at this place the list of changes that were done since 3.7.0 That makes a difference in the sense that it helps to

Re: What's the use for Standards-Versi on?

2009-08-12 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I do not have a strong opinion about this, apart from the fact that it must be present in the sources when someone is looking to update the package, and it should be accessible before downloading all the sources.

Accepted monit 1:5.0.3-2 (source i386)

2009-08-12 Thread Stefan Alfredsson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:46:19 +0200 Source: monit Binary: monit Architecture: source i386 Version: 1:5.0.3-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Stefan Alfredsson a...@debian.org Changed-By: Stefan Alfredsson a...@debian.org

Accepted gst-plugins-good0.10 0.10.15.2-1 (source all amd64)

2009-08-12 Thread Sebastian Dröge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:13:08 +0200 Source: gst-plugins-good0.10 Binary: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-doc gstreamer0.10-esd gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-good-dbg Architecture: source all amd64

Accepted ctsim 5.1.0-1 (source all amd64)

2009-08-12 Thread Kevin M. Rosenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:57:32 -0600 Source: ctsim Binary: ctsim ctsim-help ctsim-doc Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 5.1.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Kevin M. Rosenberg k...@debian.org Changed-By: Kevin M.

Accepted gst-plugins-bad0.10 0.10.13.2-1 (source all amd64)

2009-08-12 Thread Sebastian Dröge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:20:46 +0200 Source: gst-plugins-bad0.10 Binary: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-doc gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-sdl gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-dbg Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 0.10.13.2-1

Accepted reportbug 4.6 (source all)

2009-08-12 Thread Sandro Tosi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:57:03 +0200 Source: reportbug Binary: reportbug python-reportbug Architecture: source all Version: 4.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Reportbug Maintainers reportbug-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted goto-fai-progress 2.0-2 (source all)

2009-08-12 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:40:00 +0200 Source: goto-fai-progress Binary: goto-fai-progress Architecture: source all Version: 2.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: GOsa packages mainteners group gosa-...@oss.gonicus.de

Accepted ldap2zone 0.1-2 (source i386)

2009-08-12 Thread Cajus Pollmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:34:00 +0200 Source: ldap2zone Binary: ldap2zone Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.1-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: GOsa packages mainteners group gosa-...@oss.gonicus.de Changed-By: Cajus

Accepted docbookwiki 0.9.1cvs-11 (source all)

2009-08-12 Thread Jeremy Malcolm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:59:41 +0800 Source: docbookwiki Binary: docbookwiki Architecture: source all Version: 0.9.1cvs-11 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jeremy Malcolm termi...@debian.org Changed-By: Jeremy Malcolm

Accepted zope2.10 2.10.9-1 (source all amd64)

2009-08-12 Thread Jonas Meurer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:58:49 +0200 Source: zope2.10 Binary: zope2.10 zope2.10-sandbox Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 2.10.9-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Jonas Meurer m...@debian.org Changed-By: Jonas

Accepted zope2.11 2.11.4-1 (source all amd64)

2009-08-12 Thread Jonas Meurer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:00:28 +0200 Source: zope2.11 Binary: zope2.11 zope2.11-sandbox Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 2.11.4-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Jonas Meurer m...@debian.org Changed-By: Jonas

Accepted kaffeine 1.0~pre2-1 (source amd64)

2009-08-12 Thread Fathi Boudra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:23:50 +0200 Source: kaffeine Binary: kaffeine kaffeine-dbg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0~pre2-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Fathi Boudra f...@debian.org Changed-By: Fathi Boudra

Accepted gnunet 0.8.0c-4 (source all i386)

2009-08-12 Thread Daniel Baumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:34:42 +0200 Source: gnunet Binary: gnunet gnunet-client gnunet-common gnunet-dbg gnunet-server gnunet-dev gnunet-tools Architecture: source all i386 Version: 0.8.0c-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low

Accepted spell 1.0-23 (source amd64)

2009-08-12 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:28:25 +0200 Source: spell Binary: spell Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0-23 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org Changed-By: Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org

Accepted padre 0.42-1 (source all)

2009-08-12 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:44:55 +0300 Source: padre Binary: padre libwx-perl-dialog-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.42-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org Changed-By: Damyan Ivanov

Accepted libcitadel 7.61-1 (source amd64)

2009-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:56:51 +0200 Source: libcitadel Binary: libcitadel2 libcitadel2-dbg libcitadel-dev Architecture: source amd64 Version: 7.61-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Citadel Team

Accepted polyglot 1.4.36b-1 (source amd64)

2009-08-12 Thread Oliver Korff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:27:24 +0200 Source: polyglot Binary: polyglot Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.4.36b-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Oliver Korff o...@xynyx.de Changed-By: Oliver Korff o...@xynyx.de

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