On Mi, 12 ian 11, 10:55:34, Paul Wise wrote:
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Drake Wilson dr...@begriffli.ch wrote:
Which upstream bug trackers, if any, would make the above not work?
Sourceforge and probably Gforge/FusionForge trackers.
The only tracker I'm aware of which would work
Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 23:54 +, brian m. carlson a écrit :
I've noticed a trend lately that I am often asked to forward the bugs I
report to the Debian BTS upstream, either by the maintainers or
automatically by a bug script. I believe, and I continue to believe,
that maintainers
* Drake Wilson dr...@begriffli.ch [2011-01-12 08:09] wrote:
Quoth Paul Wise p...@debian.org, on 2011-01-12 10:55:34 +0800:
[among other responses]
Sourceforge and probably Gforge/FusionForge trackers.
The only tracker I'm aware of which would work is Trac, some instances
of which allow
Drake Wilson, 2011-01-11 20:19:34 -0700 :
[...]
This doesn't leave much in the way of good options:
- Having the user report bugs twice
[...]
- Having the maintainer be the reporter of record for upstream
[...]
- Having the maintainer forward the bug report but make the user the
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:53:09AM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote:
Many of these packages errors are direct or indirect consequences of
my l10n work during the lenny-squeeze release cycle.
Direct when the last uploaded version is an NMU of mine..
Indirect when a maintainer uploaded
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Package name: osmpbf
Version: 1.1
Upstream Author: Scott A. Crosby. sc...@sacrosby.com
URL: http://github.com/scrosby/OSM-binary
License: LGPL-3+
Description: Java access library for
On 2011-01-11, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.net wrote:
I've noticed a trend lately that I am often asked to forward the bugs I
report to the Debian BTS upstream, either by the maintainers or
automatically by a bug script. I believe, and I continue to believe,
I have considered to
(re-adding debian-project@ to the loop so both lists have the attendees info)
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:33, Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:58:05AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
We're organizing a cross-distro meeting in January to discuss the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org
* Package name: light-themes
Version : 0.1.8.4
Upstream Author : Ubuntu Artwork Team ubuntu-...@lists.ubuntu.com
* URL : https://launchpad.net/light-themes
* License : (CCPL)
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 09:15:41PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
I think it is perfectly fine for a user to submit a bug report to
the Debian BTS first. They may not always be equipped to know what
is a Debian and what is an upstream bug. And I also think it ought
to be perfectly valid for the
Ben Finney dijo [Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 04:01:46PM +1100]:
(...)
I'm adding zero value here. Zero. It is a huge and frustrating waste
of my time.
Not in my view. I appreciate the Debian package maintainer acting in the
interest of “lower the barrier for each Debian user of this package to
Package: facturinex2
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Nicolas Lopez de Lerma Aymerich nico...@esdebian.org
* Package name : facturlinex2debian-de...@lists.debian.org
Version : 2.0.0
Upstream Author : Nicolas Lopez de Lerma Aymerich
nico...@esdebian.org
* URL : http://facturlinex.sourceforge.net/
*
John Goerzen writes (Re: Forwarding bugs upstream):
I'm going to have a slightly different viewpoint on this.
I agree with John, basically.
I'm adding zero value here. Zero. [...]
Some people have replied suggesting scenarios where the Debian
maintainer is adding something. That's fine -
brian m. carlson writes (Re: Forwarding bugs upstream):
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 09:15:41PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
I think it is perfectly fine for a user to submit a bug report to
the Debian BTS first. They may not always be equipped to know what
is a Debian and what is an upstream
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 02:56:35PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
[...]
Also, if the BTS won't CC me when someone responds
to the bug (even with an account), there is zero chance of me reporting
the bug upstream, since I have better things to do with my life than
constantly checking a slew of
On ma, 2011-01-10 at 10:56 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
So, the only timeframe during which the problem can be experienced is
from now to the solution of #609160. I wonder if it is really worth to
address this issue properly---by changing either the intended usage of
Format: or by adding a
Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org):
I have ready NMUs for most of the affeted packages. I can upload them
soon.
My plans are to upload before the end of the upcoming week-end an NMU
for each of the affected package(s).
I currently have:
astk_1.8.0-1.2
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov cl...@debian.org
* Package name: drupal6-thm-nokia-mobile
Version : 1.3
Upstream Author : Andrea Trasatti (http://drupal.org/user/170041)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/nokia_mobile
* License : GPL
Hi all,
I just updated packages (which upgraded network-manager to 0.8.1-6) and then
rebooted computer. I was greeted with a five minute wait while ntpd tried to
query dns which was broken since network-manager decided to start, ignore
bridge mappings, do dhcp on physical port of the bridge
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: NeuroDebian Team t...@neuro.debian.net
* Package name: pyxnat
Version : 0.6.2
Upstream Author : Yannick Schwartz yannick.schwa...@cea.fr
* URL : http://packages.python.org/pyxnat
* License : BSD
Programming Lang:
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov cl...@debian.org
* Package name: drupal6-mod-charts-graphs
Version : 2.6
Upstream Author : Irakli Nadareishvili (http://drupal.org/user/96826)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/charts_graphs
* License : GPL
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 19:43 +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote:
My plans are to upload before the end of the upcoming week-end an NMU
for each of the affected package(s).
I currently have:
fwiw, from a quick look at the list, at least boxbackup would need a
t-p-u upload in order to get fixed
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov cl...@debian.org
* Package name: drupal6-mod-swftools
Version : 2.5
Upstream Author : Stuart Greenfield (http://drupal.org/user/54866)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/swftools
* License : GPL
Programming
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov cl...@debian.org
* Package name: drupal6-mod-flashnode
Version : 3.1
Upstream Author : Stuart Greenfield (http://drupal.org/user/54866)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/flashnode
* License : GPL
Programming
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov cl...@debian.org
* Package name: drupal6-mod-views-charts
Version : 1.1
Upstream Author : Irakli Nadareishvili (http://drupal.org/user/96826)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/views_charts
* License : GPL
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov cl...@debian.org
* Package name: drupal6-mod-views-groupby
Version : 1.0-rc2
Upstream Author : Irakli Nadareishvili (http://drupal.org/user/96826)
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/views_groupby
* License :
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Severity: wishlist
Owner: Miriam Ruiz little_m...@yahoo.es
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* License : LGPL-3+
Programming Lang:
Hi, Sune:
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 14:27:23 Sune Vuorela wrote:
On 2011-01-11, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.net wrote:
I've noticed a trend lately that I am often asked to forward the bugs I
report to the Debian BTS upstream, either by the maintainers or
automatically by a
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andrew Ross ubu...@rossfamily.co.uk
* Package name: libitext5-java
Version : 5.0.5
Upstream Author : Bruno Lowagie, Paulo Soares, et al.
* URL : http://itextpdf.com/
* License : Various: AGPL-3, LGPL, BSD, Apache 2.0
Anssi Kolehmainen wrote:
Hi all,
I just updated packages (which upgraded network-manager to 0.8.1-6) and then
rebooted computer. I was greeted with a five minute wait while ntpd tried to
query dns which was broken since network-manager decided to start, ignore
bridge mappings, do dhcp on
On 2011-01-12, Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net wrote:
I have considered to take this one step further. Close bugs reported in
Debian BTS with a severity of important or less that is a bug that
should primarily be fixed upstream.
Will this mean that the problem will somehow
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
I think it is always reasonable for the maintainer to forward the bug
upstream.
But what I think is bad is _demanding_ or _requiring_ the maintainer
to forward the bug upstream. If they don't want to do that for
whatever reason then
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk wrote:
Will this mean that the problem will somehow disappear from Debian? Because
if it's a problem detected within Debian it's my feeling that it will have to
be tracked within Debian till the problem is in Debian no more.
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes:
Indeed, the Debian project can't demand or require any work of anyone. I
think it's perfectly acceptable for any such volunteer to refuse to do
the work.
But if they do refuse, then to what extent is that person accomplishing
the maintainer
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:47:17PM +0100, Luca Falavigna wrote:
Policy § 2.5 [0] states packages must not depend on other packages with
lower priority values. In order to better adhere to it, FTP Team
recently implemented a new tool that generates a list of override
disparities[1] daily.
We
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
What I think many people are saying in this thread is that, among all
the things that a Debian package maintainer could do to improve the
package and user experience of those using the package, being a
go-between for Debian bug reporters and upstream is
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:56:56 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
I think it is always reasonable for the maintainer to forward the bug
upstream.
But what I think is bad is _demanding_ or _requiring_ the maintainer to
forward the bug upstream. If they don't want to do that for whatever
reason then
Olaf van der Spek writes (Re: Forwarding bugs upstream):
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Sune Vuorela nos...@vuorela.dk wrote:
Will this mean that the problem will somehow disappear from
Debian? Because if it's a problem detected within Debian it's my
feeling that it will have to be
Felipe Sateler writes (Re: Forwarding bugs upstream):
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:56:56 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
I think it is always reasonable for the maintainer to forward the bug
upstream.
But what I think is bad is _demanding_ or _requiring_ the maintainer to
forward the bug upstream.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ian Jackson
ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote:
But in this case I don't think we should be expecting maintainers to
necessarily shepherd bug reports upstream. I don't think a maintainer
who fails to do so is failing in their job as maintainer.
The
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes:
As I understand it we are not in danger of having infrastructure
capacity problems at the BTS due to these bugs, and the maintainers
who think they are a very low priority don't want to see them can
easily arrange that with the pretty
Olaf van der Spek writes (Re: Forwarding bugs upstream):
Maybe some tools (PTS) should warn about bugs that are older than X
days and are still unclassified?
That's just a way to make more noise. They show up in the BTS
searches already.
Ian.
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Luca Falavigna wrote:
Policy § 2.5 [0] states packages must not depend on other packages with
lower priority values. In order to better adhere to it, FTP Team
recently implemented a new tool that generates a list of override
disparities[1] daily.
There's also:
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