On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 14:44 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Mar 05, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote:
Should Debian restrict itself to being a Linux platform just to have
systemd?
If it is worth it, yes.
Should Debian reject using any widely deployed and important system
Andreas Tille:
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:42:50PM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
In summary, I can only advise everyone against enabling that
repository on any machine.
If I would have time to become a pkg-multimedia member I would try to
establish installing multimedia applications via
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 09:47:28AM +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
could you point me to the necessary documentation, please? I'd like to enable
the non-free repo, but only pick a few packages from it. How can I do this?
man apt_preferences
This would also be useful to pick only a few packages
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:54:43AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:07:37AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
So far, I haven't seen any features in systemd that outweigh those. And
the fact that upstream is lazy and doesn't want to do this portability
thing shouldn't
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:23:33AM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
On Di, 06 Mär 2012, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
the Blends framework. I would most probably drop some file
/etc/apt/preferences.d/01-disable-dmo.pref
in multimedia-config metapackage (where all other metapackages
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:23:53AM +, Philip Hands wrote:
On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:07:37 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote:
So far, I haven't seen any features in systemd that outweigh those. And
the fact that upstream is lazy and doesn't want to do this portability
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
Package name: libaio-ocaml
Version : 1.0~rc3
Upstream Author : Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de
URL : http://forge.ocamlcore.org/projects/libaio-ocaml/
Vcs-Git :
On 03/06/2012 03:55 PM, Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Now, is anyone against publishing the list of debian.net entries and the
entry - registrant association (provided the above conditions are
met)?
That is already published in DNS:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 07:18:51PM +0100, Christoph Egger wrote:
Uoti Urpala uoti.urp...@pp1.inet.fi writes:
I think it's quite arrogant of BSD users to expect others to work to
support their systems.
There's qute a difference between parts of debian expecting upstream to
do the work
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:54:43AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
Er, let's not call upstream lazy just because they don't want to do
work that has no interest for themselves.
I don't see what else I should call them.
I see.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:08:51AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
I think the fundamental problem is having kFreeBSD in Debian. It's too
much extra work and problems for limited benefit to a small number of
people. Holding things hostage with you have to make this work on
kFreeBSD too or it
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
It's not *always* published.
Try with ipv6 or mozilla.debian.net for example.
Making this as a rule seems relevant and a good idea to me.
It'd be even better if we could publish a list instead of only
an individual if we want to (but
Le 06/03/2012 01:56, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
Debian now has a *changed* hard line against patent infringing software
- resulting in more codecs supported in official Debian packages.
Perhaps, it is time to look at each package in d-m.o and list all
that are now equals (or better ?) in term
On Di, 06 Mär 2012, Andreas Tille wrote:
I wonder what criterion of serios bug would apply here. Just for the
sake of interest because I do not intend to implement this personally.
Too lazy to search for it, but overriding a configuration of a
system admin is for sure not allowed. If it would
On 12-03-06 at 11:24am, Vincent Danjean wrote:
Le 06/03/2012 01:56, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
Debian now has a *changed* hard line against patent infringing
software - resulting in more codecs supported in official Debian
packages.
Perhaps, it is time to look at each package in d-m.o
Package: wnpp
Owner: Salvatore Bonaccorso car...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: libfile-inplace-perl
Version : 0.20
Upstream Author : Chip Turner ctur...@pattern.net
* URL :
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:54:43AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
Er, let's not call upstream lazy just because they don't want to do
work that has no interest for themselves.
I don't see what else I should call them.
I'm
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:08:00PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
The features you've defended FreeBSD for (jails, ZFS) are not portable either;
which is to say, if you write software that depends on them, it won't work on
Linux.
Very true.
However, the difference between the systemd position and
One more thing...
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:08:00PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
But I do think that writing portable software isn't that hard, and that not
doing it is pure lazyness.
It's not about difficulty, systemd isn't
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:07:37AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 02:44:45PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Mar 05, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote:
Should Debian restrict itself to being a Linux platform just to have
systemd?
If it is worth it,
Package: wnpp
Owner: Fabrizio Regalli fab...@fabreg.it
Severity: wishlist
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On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 03:58:49PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
Do jails still provide features that LXC does not?
Like, say, any security separation at all?
LXC is a glorified chroot with some scheduler niceties and a way to set
default IP for a group of processes. If you want any security
]] Wouter Verhelst
kFreeBSD is already part of Debian. Systemd is not. The answer would
seem to be obvious.
$ rmadison systemd
systemd | 37-1| wheezy | source, amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, mipsel,
powerpc, s390, s390x, sparc
systemd | 37-1+b1 | wheezy | armhf
systemd | 37-1.1 |
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Georges Khaznadar georg...@ofset.org
* Package name: wims-java-applets
Version : 2012.03.05+svn5129
Upstream Author : oke Evers jm.ev...@schaersvoorde.nl
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* License : Public Domain
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Raoul Gunnar Borenius boren...@dfn.de
* Package name: bwctl
Version : 1.3
Upstream Author : Jeff Boote bo...@internet2.edu, Aaron Brown
aa...@internet2.edu
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* License :
I co-maintain the libidn package. As upstream, I recently relicensed it
from LGPLv2+ to GPLv2+|LGPLv3+. I'd like to upload the latest version
into Debian before Wheezy since a pretty nasty inifinte-loop bug has
been fixed. However, I am not certain what should be done before
uploading a
Hey.
Stupid question... but even for those packages, which Debian provides
now itself (by the fine work of the pkg-multimedia-maintainers)... are
they build with all the options enabled?
I believe to remember that there were some cases where mp4 stuff was
disabled then...
I surely haven't had
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Owner: Fabrizio Regalli fab...@fabreg.it
Severity: wishlist
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*
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 02:08:00PM +, Jon Dowland wrote:
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
But I do think that writing portable software isn't that hard, and that
not
doing it is pure lazyness.
It's not about difficulty,
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org wrote:
To give one particular example: systemd uses Linux-specific features to
accurately track all the processes started by a service, which allows
accurate monitoring and shutdown of processes which could otherwise
I would suggest asking the FSF licensing folks and debian-legal.
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On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 22:19:09 +0100
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 08:09:47PM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
The reason being what? We have ZIP password crackers in the
archive, too.
Cracking ZIP passwords doesn't fall under the auspices of DMCA or your
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 09:54:56AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
One of the worst contributors to the use of 'script' in upstart jobs
instead of 'exec' is the need for backwards-compatibility with pre-upstart
/etc/default/* files. The options here are all fairly poor:
- ignore the
Le Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:52:10PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff a écrit :
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Hi Charles,
On 07.03.2012 00:58, Charles Plessy wrote:
Would it be possible to pass -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 in CFLAGS in
addition to CPPFLAGS ?
Actually dpkg did in 1.16.1 which was reverted later (for good
reasons). See #643632 for details.
You can
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org (07/03/2012):
But my main question is the following:
In another bug, the problem is that CPPFLAGS is ignored in upstream's
makefile. I understand that the semantics of CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS are
not the same, but I also note that a large number of our upstreams
[Josh Triplett]
To give one particular example: systemd uses Linux-specific features
to accurately track all the processes started by a service, which
allows accurate monitoring and shutdown of processes which could
otherwise disassociate themselves from their parent processes via the
usual
Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org (06/03/2012):
This one particular example is the same feature (cgroups) that
everyone keeps talking and talking about. Everyone keeps saying
systemd uses Linuxisms like cgroups, but nobody mentions any others.
Is this the only major Linuxism in systemd, or is it
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 10:35 +1100, Karl Goetz wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 22:19:09 +0100
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 08:09:47PM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
The reason being what? We have ZIP password crackers in the
archive, too.
Cracking ZIP
I have resigned from Debian a while ago.
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On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:01:10 +, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
wrote:
Are we asking different standards from systemd
than we expect from core openssh?
The differences between systemd and openssh are that core OpenSSH does
not work on our main architecture, and that there is an active
non-Debian
* Simon Josefsson:
I co-maintain the libidn package. As upstream, I recently relicensed it
from LGPLv2+ to GPLv2+|LGPLv3+. I'd like to upload the latest version
into Debian before Wheezy since a pretty nasty inifinte-loop bug has
been fixed.
Should we get that into stable-security, under
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