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On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
I think it would be useful to describe what issue(s) there are concerning
8BITMIME and why this is important. I've found some information [1] about
this, but it isn't clear what problems are actially *caused* by the lack of
* Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org [120430 16:26]:
If people who are interested by improving our dozens of thousands upstream
makefiles could spend time forwarding patches upstream by themselves, that
would be appreciated. I have a hard time finding convincing words when I
think
the patch
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 02:00:15PM -0300, Fernando Lemos wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:04:32PM -0300, Fernando Lemos wrote:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 04/30/2012
* Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [120430 19:11]:
I want our technical discussions to be welcoming to anyone who has
information to share and who can bring additional clarity and insight to
the discussion. But once things start getting heated or people start
throwing around accusations or verge
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@debian.org
* Package name: robojournal
Version : 0.2
Upstream Author : Will Kraft pwiz...@gmail.com
* URL : http://sf.net/projects/robojournal
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C++
Description
Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes:
My suggestion to everyone feeling the need to tell anyone on a public
mailing list that they should shut up because they are no contributors
is thus: Please refrain from any more posts to this discussion.
I have nothing against this principle, and I
Aron Xu happyaron...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 22:21, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote:
Aron Xu happyaron...@gmail.com writes:
But what if I endianness does matters for those gettext .mo files?
Installing them as libfoo-translations-be and libfoo-translations-le
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 04:53:03, Philipp Kern wrote:
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
I think it would be useful to describe what issue(s) there are concerning
8BITMIME and why this is important. I've found some information [1]
about this, but it isn't clear
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
I think it would be useful to describe what issue(s) there are concerning
8BITMIME and why this is important. I've found some information [1] about
this, but it isn't clear what problems are actially *caused* by the lack of
David Bremner brem...@debian.org writes:
Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes:
My suggestion to everyone feeling the need to tell anyone on a public
mailing list that they should shut up because they are no contributors
is thus: Please refrain from any more posts to this discussion.
I
* Carsten Hey [2012-05-01 01:07 +0200]:
Only Hamish, who did not respond to this issue, uploaded
node once in 2005,
I need to correct myself, Hamish replied once. In
20110208230458.ga23...@risingsoftware.com he wrote:
| I think renaming the node binary to axnode is reasonable and
| consistent
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 06:55:20 PM Riku Voipio wrote:
...
Honesstly. my grievance is really just having to convert things to 7bit.. s
...
In the future, you're likely to still be stuck doing this for other 'fun'
reasons. The one I ran into recently was that 8 bit - 7 bit conversions will
Carsten Hey cars...@debian.org writes:
The origin of what the policy suggests to do if there is no consensus is
a mail from Guy Maor 879142cjni@slip-61-16.ots.utexas.edu, in
which he writes:
| That's basically a stick to force developers to reach a consensus.
Christian Schwarz uploaded
Carsten Hey wrote:
I don't think that there ever will be a consensus in all those
discussions without discussing in a reasonable way (which failed in the
past multiple times).
Note that a consensus does not imply everyone agreeing. I am starting
to see a consensus already and would welcome
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 06:55:20PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
It's both extra traffic (not that much if western encodings) and extra
cpu work. In lesser annoyance, it means that you no longer can read
mailbox files with non-mime capable readers (for example less) with ease,
as there will be qp
On 01/05/12 15:10, Chris Knadle wrote:
I think the reason Exim does not do this protocol conversion is that from the
point of view of an MTA author, the point of an MTA is to transmit the body
of
the message without any modification to it once received, and body
modification would be
Hello,
On Tue, 1 May 2012 20:18:07 +0200
Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org wrote:
So just stop Postfix doing the conversion? Or teach Exim to announce
8BITMIME by default.
No, Exim should not announce 8BITMIME, or it will violate RFC, not
otherwise. Now it doesn't announce it, but accepts, so
* Jonathan Nieder [2012-05-01 12:57 -0500]:
Carsten Hey wrote:
I don't think that there ever will be a consensus in all those
discussions without discussing in a reasonable way (which failed in the
past multiple times).
Note that a consensus does not imply everyone agreeing.
I was
Carsten Hey wrote:
I was talking about a consensus among the maintainers of the affected
packages. Even if all but the maintainers of one of the affected
packages would agree to a solution, there would be no way to implement
this solution without asking the tech-ctte or (what would be not
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 20:30 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
OoO En ce doux début de matinée du lundi 30 avril 2012, vers 08:15,
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com disait :
I'm rather sure that he wants to define booting as part of what
currently is done in /etc/rcS.d. Configuring
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 03:30:50PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
I was talking about a consensus among the maintainers of the affected
packages. Even if all but the maintainers of one of the affected
packages would agree to a solution, there would be no way to implement
this solution
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 09:30:23PM +0200, Andrew Shadura wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 20:18:07 +0200
Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org wrote:
So just stop Postfix doing the conversion? Or teach Exim to announce
8BITMIME by default.
No, Exim should not announce 8BITMIME, or it will violate
On 27/04/12 19:33, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Martin Wuertele
* Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [2012-04-27 09:53]:
Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 22:29 +0200, Svante Signell a écrit :
Yes of course, because event-driven init systems have *always* been
*only* about mounting USB devices.
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:55:20, Riku Voipio wrote:
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
...
The quoted 2010 survey [2] showed Exim was the most popular MTA (which I
found surprising), deployment of Exim growing just slightly faster than
Postfix, and everything
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 09:30:23PM +0200, Andrew Shadura wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, 1 May 2012 20:18:07 +0200
Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org wrote:
So just stop Postfix doing the conversion? Or teach Exim to announce
8BITMIME by default.
No, Exim should not announce 8BITMIME, or it will
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 03:30:50PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
Wait, really? What happened to respect by maintainers for the
project?
The project is not a set of random maintainers who have a filename
conflict with you.
Sorry, I don't understand the above sentence.
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 03:31:02AM +0200, Carl Fürstenberg wrote:
There has been an log struggle between the nodejs package and the node
package, which is still unresolved (bug #611698 for example) And I
wonder now what the future should look like.
To summarize the problem:
* the nodejs
Patrick Ouellette poue...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:26:47PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Indeed, and I'm very grateful for that. But realistically that was
also a lot easier than renaming Node.js's interpreter, and I think the
CITI folks did actually know that was coming.
[Dropped Cc; what does any of this have to do with the DPL?]
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 04:32:49PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 03:30:50PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
Wait, really? What happened to respect by maintainers for the
project?
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Raoul Snyman raoulsny...@openlp.org
* Package name: openlp
Version : 1.9.9
Upstream Author : Raoul Snyman raoulsny...@openlp.org
* URL : http://openlp.org/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Python
Description :
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:26:47PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Contrast that with the positive actitude of the NFS developers of CITI
at UMichi when heimdal-dev and libgssapi-dev both contained
/usr/lib/libgssapi.a [1]. They went to the trouble of renaming libgssapi
to libgssglue.
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 08:39:41PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Node.js is becoming quite popular and is known generally to use node
in its hash-bang.
Seriously? People are writing scripts that start
#!node
That is truely messed up!
Pat
--
Patrick Ouellette poue...@debian.org writes:
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 08:39:41PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Node.js is becoming quite popular and is known generally to use node
in its hash-bang.
Seriously? People are writing scripts that start
#!node
The #! part is really not the
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 01:07:11AM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote:
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 01:07:11 +0200
From: Carsten Hey cars...@debian.org
Subject: Re: Node.js and it's future in debian
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Mail-Followup-To: Carsten Hey cars...@debian.org,
* Patrick Ouellette [2012-05-01 16:55 -0400]:
I was under the impression that neither package was going to move forward with
a binary named node
Some proposed this, some agreed, others did not.
In the just reported bug #671120 I wrote regarding this neither package
should get the name part of
Le Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 03:46:51PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
Most C programs use Autoconf in my experience. I know that scientific
software often doesn't, but I think scientific software is the significant
outlier in that respect.
I see... That probably explains everything. My
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
This said, the point that I want to make, is that we switched from a
situation where the actual communication channel between our and
upstreams makefile was C(XX)FLAGS, to a situation where CPPFLAGS and
LDFLAGS also got some data input in by our
Hi again,
I actually question if we need our current level of division, which is already
lower than in other distributions. How often do people enable contrib without
non-free ? Doing so would be to install packages such as the ones discussed
every year on that list, which do not trigger
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk
* Package name: gesftpserver
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Richard Kettlewell
* URL : https://github.com/ewxrjk/sftpserver
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: C
Description : sftp
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes:
* Package name: gesftpserver
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Richard Kettlewell
* URL : https://github.com/ewxrjk/sftpserver
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: C
Description : sftp server submodule for
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 07:47:08PM +0100, Roger Lynn wrote:
I have enabled accept_8bitmime in every exim I've installed for the last
10 years and no one has reported any problems. I think the risk of
encountering a truly 7 bit MTA in this decade is low enough to be
ignored for most purposes.
On 2012-05-01 18:55:20 +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
I think it would be useful to describe what issue(s) there are concerning
8BITMIME and why this is important. I've found some information [1] about
this, but it isn't clear what
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 10:36:58PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 20:30 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
OoO En ce doux début de matinée du lundi 30 avril 2012, vers 08:15,
Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com disait :
I'm rather sure that he wants to define
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 03:24:58PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 15:24:58 -0700
From: Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Node.js and it's future in debian
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Patrick Ouellette poue...@debian.org writes:
On
Patrick Ouellette poue...@debian.org writes:
Of course the #! line is not the issue. The issue is two upstream
maintainers separated by years and miles selected the same generic name
for their binary file.
I agree with this.
Compounding the issue, some Debian Maintainer seeking to better
Excerpts from Ben Hutchings's message of Sun Apr 29 16:27:54 -0700 2012:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:11:08PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 21:52 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 09:51:37PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
Hello,
In line with
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
I actually question if we need our current level of division, which is already
lower than in other distributions.
Your question seems more appropriate on debian-project.
--
bye,
pabs
http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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