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Ian Jackson:
> Holger Levsen writes ("Re: removal instead of orphaning?"):
>> Maybe a solution would be a third kind of maintainer/uploader, so
>> people could indicate that they are happy to do house-cleaning work on
>> this package, even though they are not apt to maintain it properly.
>>
>>
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Hi,
On 28.08.2016 22:11, Bart Schouten wrote:
> That "very serious race condition" is nothing more than one daemon
> having to wait for the other while starting up. THAT'S IT. Oh and
> knowing when something has died so you can restart it or something.
That is also something the init system can
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> > I can understand this need, although never needed it myself.
>
> > But implementation makes me sad. Instead of creating UNIX-way solution
> > (create /var/run/foo.ready, when you are ready?), it does the worst
> > thing I can imagine.
>
> If communicating with another local daemon via a UNIX
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On Aug 28 2016, Bart Schouten wrote:
> But that's not the relevance. The idea that systemd is clearly
> superior to sysvinit is just something you concoct up because you
> don't know how to write a service file or script and you want to let
> systemd do the hard work.
How is
Dmitry Bogatov writes:
> Socket is not bad thing. Inventing daemon for no reason is complicating
> things for no reason => bad. Thanks history, we have pid files, not
> `libpid' to talk to `pidd'.
Uh, the daemon in question is the init daemon? Which has been there
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Hi,
On 28.08.2016 14:29, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> especially in light of the fact
> that the systemd developers have had a list of "Oddball things that you
> can actually do with rc scripts that systemd isn't going to support."
The crux of the matter is that what the majority thinks
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Nikolaus Rath writes:
> On Aug 28 2016, Bart Schouten wrote:
>> But that's not the relevance. The idea that systemd is clearly superior
>> to sysvinit is just something you concoct up because you don't know how
>> to write a service file or script and you
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:56 AM, Niels Thykier wrote:
> Frankly, I do not think that the source package is the correct place for
> the Maintainer / Uploaders data. There are plenty of cases where it
> would make sense to update it "retroactively" after the package has been
> uploaded (E.g.
[2016-08-28 20:00] Russ Allbery
>
> part text/plain3207
> Dmitry Bogatov writes:
>
> > Not to start flame or to advertize anything/anyone, but why to integrate
> > with 'runit' init system, your program should support foreground
> >
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But I know a lot of them. And not only in Debian community. And they
don't agree that migrating will give them greater control over their
systems.
If you want I'll ask them to write here too.
Attila Kinali writes:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:47:55 -0400
> Robert Edmonds
Philipp Kern writes:
> On 2016-08-26 19:53, Wookey wrote:
>> After Stretch there may not be that many sysvinit users, but I think
>> that 2 releases is the minimum sensible period to maintain support for
>> such a siginificant change.
>
> But it seems that this discussion does
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
> If we assume that this precedent allow a maintainer to violate policy,
> so we don't need the Policy anymore.
Violating policy is still a bug; it may be a bug in policy, or a bug in
the package.
> they still continue to rely on Policy to be sure that
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❦ 29 août 2016 05:00 CEST, Russ Allbery :
> upstart supports a similar mechanism via the -Z flag, but it's (IMO) a
> little less clean: the process sends itself a SIGSTOP when it's ready, and
> then lets the init system send it a SIGCONT. This does work, but I don't
> like it
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Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
> Le lundi, 29 août 2016, 12.07:23 h CEST Dmitrii Kashin a écrit :
>> But I know a lot of them. And not only in Debian community. And they
>> don't agree that migrating will give them greater control over their
>> systems.
>
> This is not a
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Don Armstrong writes:
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
>> If we assume that this precedent allow a maintainer to violate policy,
>> so we don't need the Policy anymore.
>
> Violating policy is still a bug; it may be a bug in policy, or a bug in
> the package.
>
>>
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