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Hola a todos,
First of all, I'm sorry to write in english but I can't speak spanish very well.
I'm Paulo Santana from Brazil.
We are applying to have DebConf18 in Curitiba (Paraná state - Brazil) and we
are writing a BID.
It would be vey important to us to receive the support from Debian
On Dec 26, Martín Ferrari wrote:
> I am currently the Debian maintainer for net-tools, but note that I have
> not forked, nor I am developing net-tools. Upstream got active again,
> somehow.
Thank you for your clarification.
I think that we have a consensus about this: can
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On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 01:38:48PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote:
> I don't know whether "crap" is the right word, but it is certainly
> baggage from a bygone era. "Baggage" here means that if we are nice to
> our users (ie, Debian sysadmins), we should not force them to know two
> tools. We only
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:30:26AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>Ifconfig has been deprecated; you should probably use "ip a show
>dev lo" instad of the shorter and more convenient "ifconfig lo"
... and often wrong
> OK, you can remove the last half, but keep in mind there are plenty of
>
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* Package name: engine-mode
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On Wed, 2016-12-28 at 04:13 +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
> On December 27, 2016 11:10:55 PM EST, Adam Borowski
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 04:04:21AM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > > > FTR, it's #739636.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Postfix has no way to know it's
On Dec 29, Simon Richter wrote:
> As long as there is still a way to have working "netstat" and "ifconfig"
> commands, that is fine.
I do not think that anybody sane wants to remove the package from the
archive: the idea is to stop using it in script in other packages since
Hi,
On 29.12.2016 12:49, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> As long as there is still a way to have working "netstat" and "ifconfig"
>> commands, that is fine.
> I do not think that anybody sane wants to remove the package from the
> archive: the idea is to stop using it in script in other packages since
Hi,
the python-numpy package in unstable has an RC bug:
https://bugs.debian.org/849196
however, today it migrated to testing, the migration status still says
however "valid candidate".
I thought that RC bugs would prevent packages from migration -- what is
the exception here?
Best regards
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"Paul R. Tagliamonte" writes:
> FWIW, I don't think any of the dput-ng hackers particularly mind if it
> changes, changing API could just happen for both together, at the same
> time. Or maybe just consolidate :)
Much appreciated. Yes, one aspiration I eventually hope to
Christian Seiler writes:
> On 12/29/2016 08:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> ip address also has one of the worst output UI decisions I've ever seen,
>> namely this line:
>>
>> inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic wlan0
>>
>> specifically
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort writes:
> On 29/12/16 17:24, Ole Streicher wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> the python-numpy package in unstable has an RC bug:
>>
>> https://bugs.debian.org/849196
>>
>> however, today it migrated to testing, the migration status still says
>> however "valid
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 08:17:01PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> In my opinion ip provides all the things you are mentioning - what are
> you missing? with -o as option the output is rather easy to parse.
I find ip's output hard to read. I have to take time to visually parse
it every time, I
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Also, this is not at all easy to parse:
>
> # ip -o address
> 1: loinet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo\ valid_lft forever
> preferred_lft forever
> 1: loinet6 ::1/128 scope host \ valid_lft forever
Russ Allbery writes:
> I have never managed to work out how to use dcut […] in fewer than
> five tries each time I've needed to use it. I'm not sure what it is
> with that command, but I find it completely baffling to use correctly.
This should be addressed by, at least,
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On 12/29/2016 07:04 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> For stretch+1, what I'd like to see is a tool that a) works b) has
> output that's nice for a human to read and c) has output that can be
> easily processed by programs. None of the current tools comes anywhere
> near. Bonus points if the command
Bernd Zeimetz writes:
> On 12/29/2016 07:04 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>> For stretch+1, what I'd like to see is a tool that a) works b) has
>> output that's nice for a human to read and c) has output that can be
>> easily processed by programs. None of the current tools comes
On 29/12/16 17:24, Ole Streicher wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the python-numpy package in unstable has an RC bug:
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/849196
>
> however, today it migrated to testing, the migration status still says
> however "valid candidate".
>
> I thought that RC bugs would prevent packages
On 12/29/2016 08:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> It certainly doesn't provide a man page that doesn't start with a BNF
> syntax description. The iproute2 documentation is awful.
Ack.
> Also, this is not at all easy to parse:
>
> # ip -o address
> 1: loinet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo\
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:30:26AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> OK, you can remove the last half, but keep in mind there are plenty of
> people who aren't using the exotic features provided by iproute2, and
> are very happy using the more convenient and shorter BSD-style
> commands. If you're
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Afif Elghraoui writes:
> Hi, Ben,
Thanks for the feedback. One specific suggestion appears to already have
a bug report; I'm redirecting this sub-thread there.
> على الثلاثاء 27 كانون الأول 2016 20:31، كتب Ben Finney:
> > The ‘dput-ng’ package is one alternative that is
[Russ Allbery]
> ip address also has one of the worst output UI decisions I've ever seen,
> namely this line:
>
> inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic wlan0
>
> specifically "192.168.0.195/24", which is notation (IIRC) invented by this
> command, used nowhere else in
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Bjørn Mork writes:
> I believe that is a mis-interpretation of that RFC. The examples are
> all network addresses, but I don't think there is anything there that
> restricts the CIDR notation only to that class of IPv4 addresses.
> FWIW, the notation is much older and has been
Eduard Bloch wrote...
> I volunteer as test subject for that experiment. I would appreciate even
> small steps, considering the current laptop in front of me with average
> magnetic HDD. Over a minute boot time, which is insane and IMHO mostly
> caused by the storm of IO operations required
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Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote...
> Unforunately, the BTS exported a broken/incomplete RC bug list, and britney
> used
> that and didn't see that some packages had an RC bug, so it allowed them to
> migrate.
Ouch, that's quite a nightmare. While I'm curious to learn how this
happened and what is
On 2016-12-29 11:38 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bernd Zeimetz writes:
> > On 12/29/2016 07:04 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>
> Also, this is not at all easy to parse:
>
> # ip -o address
> 1: loinet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo\ valid_lft forever
> preferred_lft forever
>
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]] Russ Allbery
> It's possible that some other tool has abused CIDR notation in this way,
> but ip is still the only place I ever see it. It's definitely not common.
I picked a few arbitrary networking platforms:
From
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Tollef Fog Heen writes:
> ]] Russ Allbery
>> It's possible that some other tool has abused CIDR notation in this way,
>> but ip is still the only place I ever see it. It's definitely not common.
> I picked a few arbitrary networking platforms:
Meh. Okay, thanks, I'm
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Russ Allbery writes:
> Christian Seiler writes:
>> On 12/29/2016 08:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> ip address also has one of the worst output UI decisions I've ever seen,
>>> namely this line:
>>>
>>> inet 192.168.0.195/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope
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