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On 2018-04-18 at 10:53, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>>> But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning into
>>> Maintainer and Uploaders.
>>
>> If you don't assign different
On 04/18/2018 05:01 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-04-18 at 10:53, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote
>>
>>> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>
But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning into
Maintainer
On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
yes, sorting depends on the locale... :)
Can you please give an example for the sorting difference in
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On 2018-04-17 22:34, Christoph Biedl wrote:
> Also, choosing the names in sorted order (modulo wraparound) would
> create a list in historic order of the releases, easing some assessment
> when talking about releases. That's what Ubuntu does, although using
Please define "sorted order", not
On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
>> As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible
>> I/O tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that
>> Lucas removed you as a maintainer.
>
On 4/18/18 5:58 AM, Joel Cross wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, at 6:25 PM, Daniele Nicolodi wrote:
>> On 4/17/18 8:57 AM, Joel Cross wrote:
>>> Package: wnpp
>>> Severity: wishlist
>>> Owner: Joel Cross
>>>
>>> * Package name: python-base58
>>> Version :
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The Wanderer writes ("Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian"):
> If it really is intended that the listed Maintainer be on an equal
> footing with any and all listed Uploaders, and there's no semantic
> difference between these fields - just the arbitrary limitation that one
> of them can't have more
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> Please define "sorted order", not everybody order letters the same way.
really? there's more than one
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > Please define "sorted order", not everybody order letters the same way.
> really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
yes, sorting depends
The Wanderer writes ("Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian"):
> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> > But that didn't happen, unless you put different meaning into
> > Maintainer and Uploaders.
>
> If you don't assign different meanings to "Maintainer:" and
> "Uploaders:", what's the
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Am Mittwoch, den 18.04.2018, 14:55 +0500 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible
> > I/O tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that
> > Lucas removed you
On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:14:50 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
specifically, what locale sorts english words differently than LANG=C?
Since English words (or texts) can have 8bit characters you may get
a different sorting in in different locales.
If you mean ASCII words I don’t know of any
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
Please define "sorted order", not everybody order letters the same way.
really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
Mike Stone
On Wed, 2018-04-18 at 10:45 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-04-18 at 05:55, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> >
> > > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible
> > > I/O tester) I can certainly
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Rolf,
you have made your point about the conflict that arose about a package
which you may or may not have been maintaining. Fair enough.
However, from your last two messages, it seems to me that you feel
wronged by active members on this mailing list in quite a few ways
beyond what has been
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Hi Andrey.
Andrey Rahmatullin - 18.04.18, 11:55:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:23:23AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible I/O
> > tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that Lucas
> > removed you as a maintainer.
>
Roberto C. Sánchez (2018-04-18):
> I have, on occasion, written messages that I later (sometimes even
> immediately) regretted. What has worked well for me and helped prevent
> me from initiating or compounding situations like those you point out
> is this process:
>
> - Get
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Dimitri et al.,
> With all due respect to yourself, waldi, and ftp-team (masters &
> assistants & wizards), I find this reject comment inappropriate, and
> not at all informative enough.
Regardless of the merit of your arguments, I am sure it would have
been more productive to reply to Thorsten
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, at 6:25 PM, Daniele Nicolodi wrote:
> On 4/17/18 8:57 AM, Joel Cross wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: Joel Cross
> >
> > * Package name: python-base58
> > Version : 0.2.5
> > Upstream Author : David Keijser
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:52:18PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:
>
> Whilst this is not the most egregious example, I am not enjoying
> this recent trend of almost-immediately escalating issues to our
> mailing lists.
>
...
>
> If one feels hurt or aggrievied by an interaction that might be
>
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On 18/04/2018 13:52, Chris Lamb wrote:
With all due respect to yourself, waldi, and ftp-team (masters &
assistants & wizards), I find this reject comment inappropriate, and
not at all informative enough.
Regardless of the merit of your arguments, I am sure it would have
been more productive to
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Hello Ian,
On Wed, Apr 18 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> IMO it would be better to abolish Uploaders in favour of fixing the
> original spec bug in Maintainers. Also, easier, because as a
> practical matter, there is a lot of software that will fail if it
> fails to find a Maintainer field but
Stephan Seitz dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:11:47PM +0200]:
> On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
> > yes, sorting depends on the
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Sean Whitton writes ("Re: problems in gjots2 and Debian"):
> [stuff]
I don't object to any of that.
Personally I would prefer to manage maintainership via a separate
database to the archive, perhaps tracker. Something would have to
automatically generate Maintainer and/or Uploaders for the
Chris Lamb dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:52:18PM +0100]:
> (...)
> Whilst this is not the most egregious example, I am not enjoying
> this recent trend of almost-immediately escalating issues to our
> mailing lists.
>
> As has been pointed out elsewhere, people make mistakes in
> technical
Hello,
On Wed, Apr 18 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Personally I would prefer to manage maintainership via a separate
> database to the archive, perhaps tracker. Something would have to
> automatically generate Maintainer and/or Uploaders for the benefit of
> old consumers.
I think we all want
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On April 18, 2018 9:19 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> But why would ü not be part of the sorting? Yes, that was my example
> before you censored my thought process - In Spanish, [áéíóú] and
> [aeiou] share the same spot while ordering, as do ñ and n, as do u and
> ü (and we have no
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:13:08PM +0200, Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
> Team maintained packages usually have team's name and mailing list in
> the "Maintainer:" field and possibly multiple "Uploaders:".
Sure. And either they convey some info with that (like Python teams do) or
not.
And somebody
Athos Ribeiro dijo [Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 06:31:31PM -0300]:
> (...)
> I can not change what had happened here but I hope we can put this
> behind us and move forward.
>
> @debian-devel:
>
> I am sorry my past actions have been taking so much time of everyone
> else, which could be put into
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:00:51PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Instead, tools grew to tolerate commas here rather than treat them as
> separators (because they would mishandle the erroneous packages).
Is this the main problem with fixing the Policy? Does someone have a plan
with this?
--
WBR,
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:19:05AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Stephan Seitz dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:11:47PM +0200]:
On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > really? there's more than one alphabetical
Matthew Crews dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 01:10:06PM -0400]:
> On April 18, 2018 9:19 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > But why would ü not be part of the sorting? Yes, that was my example
> > before you censored my thought process - In Spanish, [áéíóú] and
> > [aeiou] share the same
Matthew Crews writes:
> As far as diacritics go, American English is practically devoid of
> them. Where they are present, native (American) English speakers
> basically ignore them, so the words résumé (n) and resume (v) share the
> same spot in any given English
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 03:19:51PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > As just someone who mostly maintains one package (fio - flexible I/O
> > > tester) I can certainly understand how you feel about that Lucas
> > > removed you as a maintainer.
> >
> > But that didn't happen, unless you put
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 01:00:08PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Adrian Bunk writes ("Re: Updated proposal for improving the FTP NEW
> process"):
>...
> > What happens outside of our archive (e.g. in Ubuntu or .debian.net)
> > is nothing we officially provide to our users.
>
> I don't agree, but
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