Re: INTENT: to pkg netscape 4.5 full debs(not 4.05)

1998-06-18 Thread Michael Dietrich
So, if you have them ready, please release 4.05 debs. I'm eager to test them. :-) mee too, i would like to see it on alpha... -- see header -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New maintainer intending to package pavuk

1998-06-18 Thread zorton
Hi, i'm going to try and package up pavuk. Pavuk is a url grabber that supports Gopher, HTTP, and FTP. It's main UI is based off the console however it does support a rather nice (if a bit buggy) X mode. The X mode uses gtk or Xlib, i've worked with the gtk version and will recompile

Re: New maintainer intending to package pavuk

1998-06-18 Thread Shaleh
Policy is not set in stone. There are times when it makes little sense. I say make a console version, then make a X package. The X version can have a gtk and/or Xlib version. Are you also going to help him maintain the upstream source now that he is away? I thought about this back in March,

Re: removal of dhcp-beta?

1998-06-18 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 17 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, dhcp-beta is the only version that can be used with multiple subnets; if that's the case, taking it out makes the dist lose functionality. (A real bummer if there are no problems with dhcp-beta other

Re: New maintainer intending to package pavuk

1998-06-18 Thread zorton
Policy is not set in stone. There are times when it makes little sense. I say make a console version, then make a X package. The X version can have a gtk and/or Xlib version. Are you also going to help him maintain the upstream source now that he is away? I thought about this back in

Re: Exciting Pilot/Debian news

1998-06-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 03:13:27PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: Therefore, I believe that I will just dump the tar.gz's of binutils, gcc, and gdb into the toplevel of the package's tar file (or maybe the debian/ directory, I dunno), and then all I have to do is change the path that it looks for

RFC: worth packaging apache-modperl ?

1998-06-18 Thread Dan Jacobowitz
Since the dynamic version of mod_perl is quite broken right now (I believe Jules advised the perl maintainer of the problems; loading dynamic shared objects from another DSO reults in a few undeclared symbols from libperl.a - I'm guessing somehow the lowest level module can't see them, and don't

Re: New maintainer intending to package pavuk

1998-06-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 08:12:05PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: Policy is not set in stone. There are times when it makes little ^^ But please discuss any violations you intend to commit in debian-policy. I think a policy that is not set in stone is not useful. Ian Jackson

^Z doesn't work with latest hamm!

1998-06-18 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
Hi all. I have a fresh hamm and ^Z stopped working in nvi, vim, less, cat (!!!)... I don't know what package is broking it, maybe ncurses, bash, libc6...; with csh ^Z works as expected with all programs. I'm puzled. And not, it is not a hardware/ram problem, it is happening in all my fresh

Re: Hamm CD layouts

1998-06-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Philip Hands wrote: Disk 1: Main binary (i386, bootable) Disk 2: Contrib, non-free and non-US (binary-i386 and source) Disk 3: Main source (except X11, movesd to disk #2 for space reasons) I think we need two layouts, one for the mass-production folks, and one

Re: INTENT: to pkg netscape 4.5 full debs(not 4.05)

1998-06-18 Thread Gregory S. Stark
Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As some of you might know, I have been working on full debs of netscape 4.05. I have everything almost perfect, except for the reporting clause. Is there any possibility we could get permission from Netscape to skip the reporting clause? Frankly I'm

Re: Bug#23457 acknowledged by developer (xexec is not present in menus!)

1998-06-18 Thread sjc
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 11:54:34AM -0500, Zed Pobre wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 16 Jun 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ?package(splay):needs=X11 section=XShells\ ^^^ This looks suspicous to me I read the documentation on the Menu Package a while back.

Intent to do SOMETHING with: p2c

1998-06-18 Thread Robert Woodcock
My personal opinion on this is that p2c in it's current state should be removed from hamm. It's completely broken, as it depends on a non-existant package that was removed from hamm during the freeze because, of all things, a lintian error: * #19382: libp2c1:

Re: Base system tarball Q [XTerminal]

1998-06-18 Thread sjc
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 02:08:05PM -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 11:49:25PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also found out that I hafta do a chroot . bash --login once to get it to configure the base system (ie keymap stuff) You could copy /etc/resolv.conf and

Re: kpilot -- help sought

1998-06-18 Thread John Goerzen
I have sent an e-mail to the author. Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looking at the diffs, I'm quite confused. kpilot ships with Makefiles, config.logand config.status? I would strongly advise to remove them from the orig sources, since they definitly do not belong there. Yes. Also,

Re: Exciting Pilot/Debian news

1998-06-18 Thread John Goerzen
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 03:13:27PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: Therefore, I believe that I will just dump the tar.gz's of binutils, gcc, and gdb into the toplevel of the package's tar file (or maybe the debian/ directory, I dunno), and then all I

Re: Exciting Pilot/Debian news

1998-06-18 Thread John Goerzen
Hmmm, perhaps it's still in incoming, since it is not listed at all in my /var/lib/dpkg/available file... weird But in any case, I won't bother with it then :-) I am wondering if it might be a good idea to make a pilot, pda, palm, portable, or something category in the FTP site so these

Re: Base system tarball Q [XTerminal]

1998-06-18 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 01:23:42AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could copy /etc/resolv.conf and other config files out of the server's etc directory. Most of that should be correct (though you'll have to do something special for 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' obviously). yes

intent to package twclock and twlog

1998-06-18 Thread Joop Stakenborg
Hi, I want to package twclock (hamradio clock for different timezones) and twlog (hamradio logging program). It compiles OK with lesstif 0.84 from the slink dist. Joop [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Exciting Pilot/Debian news

1998-06-18 Thread Rob Tillotson
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am wondering if it might be a good idea to make a pilot, pda, palm, portable, or something category in the FTP site so these things can get out of otherosfs, which doesn't really apply very well. Personally, I think it isn't too bad a fit, but there

intent to package TinyMUCK fb5.61

1998-06-18 Thread Kysh Dragon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi... I intend to package TinyMUCK fb5.61. (Actually, I've already done so, but :) Description: TinyMUCK version fb-5.61 (FuzzBall) is one of the more popular internet MU* servers available. It is layed out, in its structure, like a Unix system, making

Re: Intent to do SOMETHING with: p2c

1998-06-18 Thread Joey Hess
Robert Woodcock wrote: My personal opinion on this is that p2c in it's current state should be removed from hamm. It's completely broken, as it depends on a non-existant package that was removed from hamm during the freeze because, of all things, a lintian error: * #19382: libp2c1:

Re: Hamm CD layouts

1998-06-18 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 09:58:58PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: : : Has any consensus been reached about the best layout to be used for Hamm : disks? I've written several 3-CD sets for people so far using a simple : layout (below), but it would be nice to be able to produce to produce ones :

Re: kpilot -- help sought

1998-06-18 Thread Stephan Kulow
John Goerzen wrote: I have sent an e-mail to the author. Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looking at the diffs, I'm quite confused. kpilot ships with Makefiles, config.logand config.status? I would strongly advise to remove them from the orig sources, since they definitly do

Intent to do SOMETHING with: p2c

1998-06-18 Thread Matthias Klose
Robert Woodcock writes: My personal opinion on this is that p2c in it's current state should be removed from hamm. However, something usable should go in slink. (p2c is still used by the occasional person, I had someone ask me on #debian where libp2c1 was...). Please comment. Although

Re: GNUPLOT breaks GPL

1998-06-18 Thread tibor simko
eb == Edward Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gm == Gergely Madarasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt == James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eb GNUPLOT is not GPL, so it can not be linked with eb libreadline. I am I right or drastically mistaken. (I must eb point out that while I am

GMT seems to have moved...

1998-06-18 Thread Dale Scheetz
On my bo system the GMT variable is set in /etc/init.d/boot, but my hamm system has no such file!. Where is GMT set now? TIA, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of The Debian Linux User's Guide _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software

Re: tetex-bin install bug ?

1998-06-18 Thread christoph . martin
Omegaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G John Lapeyre) writes: Note that the bug you reported hasn't been fixed yet. I updated my distro this morning (6/15) and tetex-bin exhibited this behavior. I hand-edited /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf to change the TEXMF variable name to

Re: GMT seems to have moved...

1998-06-18 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: On my bo system the GMT variable is set in /etc/init.d/boot, but my hamm system has no such file!. Where is GMT set now? /etc/defaults/rcS -- Madarasz Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Egy pingvinre

Re: RFC: worth packaging apache-modperl ?

1998-06-18 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 08:55:07PM -0400, Dan Jacobowitz wrote: Agreed, it's an ugly hack, but it may be a while before this issue is resolved and I have received several messages which suggest people want a mod_perl solution fairly promptly. This would beat each user trying to compile it

Re: GMT seems to have moved...

1998-06-18 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Gergely Madarasz wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Dale Scheetz wrote: On my bo system the GMT variable is set in /etc/init.d/boot, but my hamm system has no such file!. Where is GMT set now? /etc/defaults/rcS No wonder I couldn't find it ;-) Thanks, this will be

Re: INTENT: to pkg netscape 4.5 full debs(not 4.05)

1998-06-18 Thread Norbert Veber
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 10:51:55PM -0400, Gregory S. Stark wrote: Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As some of you might know, I have been working on full debs of netscape 4.05. I have everything almost perfect, except for the reporting clause. Is there any possibility we could get

Re: Base system tarball Q [XTerminal]

1998-06-18 Thread sjc
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 01:52:17AM -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 01:23:42AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: connecting to a host, once I have the IPs needed, what is the nameserver needed for? Well, you could have a nameserver entry for xdm-server (or something)

Re: About the Hamm Freeze (!)

1998-06-18 Thread Brian White
I was told that dselect has problems with hamm being distributed on more than one cd rom. Ian Jackson suggested that we should take a look at dpkg-mountable. This means that a) dpkg-mountable might need to be included in the boot floppies and b) we'll need at least one another set of

Re: Base system tarball Q [XTerminal]

1998-06-18 Thread Philip Hands
You might want to look at the Linux Router Project: http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ which is building a Debian-ish single floppy router. Also, it's worth noting that you can format 3.5'' floppies to contain up to about 2MB, by using bizarre sectors/track settings. This is also

Hamm install disks -- where are they?

1998-06-18 Thread Will Lowe
subject says it all... Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/

Re: Hamm install disks -- where are they?

1998-06-18 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 10:47:40AM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: subject says it all... Version 2.0.6 is in our FTP mirrors ( hamm/hamm/disks-i386/current ). There's a prerelease for 2.0.7 at ftp://molec2.dfis.ull.es/pub/debian-spanish/boot-floppies/release-2.0.7 The final 2.0.7 will be uploaded to

Re: tetex-bin install bug ?

1998-06-18 Thread Omegaman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Omegaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, editing /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf is the wrong way. The format of it changed completely. So I should probably copy texmf.cnf.dpkg.dist over the orignal and edit to my system (if needed). No problems so far at any rate. Did the

Re: Base system tarball Q [XTerminal]

1998-06-18 Thread sjc
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 03:26:11PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: You might want to look at the Linux Router Project: http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ which is building a Debian-ish single floppy router. Also, it's worth noting that you can format 3.5'' floppies to contain up to

Processed: f

1998-06-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 23632 general Bug#23632: xserver and ispell missing in the hamm/sparc distribution Bug assigned to package `general'. reassign 23586 smail Bug#23586: Package Dependency problems. Bug reassigned from package `smaill' to `smail'. thanks

Gnome .debs released

1998-06-18 Thread Jim Pick
Hi, I've uploaded the Gnome 0.20 Debian packages to incoming on master.debian.org (also available at http://www.jimpick.com/ ) I had some problems with the gnome-admin package, so I didn't finish it. I will be travelling for 4 days, and I will figure it out when I am back. I also did not

Re: tetex-bin install bug ?

1998-06-18 Thread Christoph Martin
Omegaman writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Omegaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, editing /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf is the wrong way. The format of it changed completely. So I should probably copy texmf.cnf.dpkg.dist over the orignal and edit to my system (if needed). No problems

Re: ^Z doesn't work with latest hamm!

1998-06-18 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
El jueves 18 de junio de 1998, a las 20:40:35, Herbert Xu escribió: : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : I have a fresh hamm and ^Z stopped working in nvi, vim, : less, cat (!!!)... : : What does stty say when you're running those applications? $ stty -a speed 38400 baud; rows 30;

Re: Serious performance bug in Perl

1998-06-18 Thread Christopher J. Fearnley
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 04:43:13AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: Chris Fearnley, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: But yesterday I upgraded a bo system to hamm which has a 3000 line /etc/passwd. Now adduser takes OVER ONE MINUTE to find a UID and GID for the new user.

any Wabi users in the group?

1998-06-18 Thread Dale Scheetz
I just purchased my first piece of non-free software for Linux. I need to be able to run PageMaker on my Debian machine so I can stop cursing my partner's '95 machine ;-) It comes in both .rpm and .tgz although the tarball seems to be unsupported. I'm curious to know if anyone else has installed

Re: Serious performance bug in Perl

1998-06-18 Thread Richard Kaszeta
Christopher J. Fearnley writes (Re: Serious performance bug in Perl): to call it (instead of the default perl - 5.004.04-6). Performance improved several hundred-fold. So I believe the problem is either in perl or libc6. Any suggestions on how to resolve this? As I said before the slowdown

Re: Serious performance bug in Perl

1998-06-18 Thread Dale Scheetz
I have missed a bit of the conversation here, so it isn't clear to me which lib6 is being used. I am currently preparing the 2.0.7 release version. To the best of my knowledge the 2.0.7pre3 (in slink...sorry) had some major NIS work done on it, but there isn't anything between then and now. If

Re: Bug#23576: tetex-base: no write-permissions on public font directories

1998-06-18 Thread Olaf Weber
christoph martin writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Package: tetex-base Version: 0.9-7 When the user first hits an ungenerated font then permission denied messages are plentiful... :) The fonts get generated correctly, but it is a security problem to let everybody write the ls-R file.

Re: Gnome .debs released

1998-06-18 Thread B. Bell
On 18 Jun 1998, Jim Pick wrote: Anybody that installed the unofficial pre-release .debs I put out last week will probably need to install these .debs by hand (instead of relying on dselect) - because I didn't increment the version number. hi, which ones have changed? Should we install _all_

Re: Bug#23000: Bug Terrorism

1998-06-18 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around Wed, 17 Jun 1998 11:21:08 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Scott Ellis wrote: No, you're not hiding this on the bug tracking system any more. Neither are you. The reason that sendmail broke is that you made a DELIBERATE modification to procmail that sendmail

Intent to package: lists-archives

1998-06-18 Thread Johnie Ingram
This is a packaging of the scripts used for our list archives webpages, which were written by Guy and are GPL. Example of a new site from this technology: http://lists.openprojects.net/Lists-Archives/ new debian package, version 2.0. size 27116 bytes: control archive= 1684 bytes.

[solved] Re: ^Z doesn't work with latest hamm!

1998-06-18 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
Sorry to bother all of you with my strange problems, I just rebooted the machine and it works again. I think it was something with bash, with other shells (tcsh and csh) it worked ok but within bash not at all. Anyway, a reboot solved it. Regards, -- Roberto Lumbreras [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL

Re: any Wabi users in the group?

1998-06-18 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a
I installed Wabi in my work environment about a year ago. I used directly the .tar.gz and works fine after some tuning on my behalf. Of course, I moved all the /opt/ stuff to /usr/local, symlink opt so I wouldn't find any problems. We're also using PageMaker 5.0 to edit our

Re: Bug#23576: tetex-base: no write-permissions on public font directories

1998-06-18 Thread Christoph Martin
Olaf Weber writes: christoph martin writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Package: tetex-base Version: 0.9-7 When the user first hits an ungenerated font then permission denied messages are plentiful... :) The fonts get generated correctly, but it is a security problem to

Re: Gnome .debs released

1998-06-18 Thread Shaleh
I would recommend installing them all over. Numerous little things changed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any Swim 2.1 users?

1998-06-18 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi, I posted this question in debian-user and got no reply :( May be some of experts could help me out. Our university kindly bought us Motif for Linux (SWim 2.1) from Linux System Labs (http://www.lsl.com). On the CD they send there is an installation for redhat, but nothing for debian.

Re: Any Swim 2.1 users?

1998-06-18 Thread Gerhard Poul
Hi, I think the best solution would be to build your own package, but don't ask me how to do it... It's just an idea! cu, Gerhard --- at-net and VBS - We support experimental data transport technology! Linux International Web Administrator - http://www.li.org

Re: VI reasons (was Re: Base Set: Suggested additions removals.)

1998-06-18 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:07:24 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: elvis-tiny is small enough to fit on too (although that may have changed now that we use slang rather than ncurses - can elvis-tiny use slang??) and provides a decent editor for people who can't/won't use

Re: joilet fs for official cdrom

1998-06-18 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
I used Andreas' tarball v 0.12 (which contains mkisofs) on a machine running 2.1.103, using -J -r (and -b, too), and it works fine... both 2.1.103 and 2.0.33 seem to prefer Joliet over RR, but I can see and use the symlinks on both systems... I pass no options to mount (fstab reads

Re: Bootfile locations for rbootd?

1998-06-18 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
the usual problem : you have an application and need an application home. with ftp it's /home/ftp, for web server /var/www, and for many other stuff it's currently /var/lib/package or /var/spool/package. but with slink you should use fhs, so it's ??? /var/state/package /var/cache/package and

Intent to package JDE (Emacs Java Development Environment)

1998-06-18 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Hello Debian developers and WNPP maintainer, I intend to package the Emacs Java Development Environment (JDE) which is an elisp package that interfaces to the Java Development Kit, and makes Java programming a little more comfortable. JDE is currently listed in the Programs that aren't

Re: Serious performance bug in Perl

1998-06-18 Thread Chris Fearnley
No, I am not running NIS. Just simple text /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 12:38:45PM -0500, Richard Kaszeta wrote: Christopher J. Fearnley writes (Re: Serious performance bug in Perl): to call it (instead of the default perl - 5.004.04-6). Performance improved several

Re: Any Swim 2.1 users?

1998-06-18 Thread Steve Dunham
Alexander Kushnirenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I posted this question in debian-user and got no reply :( May be some of experts could help me out. Our university kindly bought us Motif for Linux (SWim 2.1) from Linux System Labs (http://www.lsl.com). On the CD they send there is an