On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:11:07 -0700, you wrote:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 4:52:43 PM, Marc wrote:
IBTD. Backups are to get a crashed system up again _FAST_. And this
can be accomplished by dropping a single tape in.
There comes a point where one loses more time restoring tape than from
According to Ben Collins:
Or even simpler:
test -f config.status || ./configure
No, this case will cause the make to fail.
No it won't.
% false || true
% echo $?
0
Mike.
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Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I dunno about you, but that is the very definition of spread out
especially when you consider that {package} in /opt can be quite a
few. I'm disgusted with my path on my Solaris box at work. I
needed to add /opt/gnu/gimp/bin, /opt/gnu/gcc/bin and
Steve Lamb wrote:
domain of individuals who do not have a packaging system. Debian has a very
strong packaging system so the separation is not needed.
Then could you please show me a way to share /usr/bin over nfs? I see
the need to install, the idea in /usr/share is that it should be
Steve Lamb wrote:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 1:45:46 PM, Marek wrote:
Which would be for what reason?
When for example it is mounted on a cdrom as a live CD system. Enough?
/usr/local, where you're going to keep local, custom builds of things, i
That are hopefully located
Steve Lamb wrote:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 12:32:19 PM, Jonathan wrote:
I hate being FORCED to do an install when a copy is just as good and
saves far more effort. I duplicate hundreds of FreeBSD disks every month.
If only Linux was so easy.
If you like FreeBSD... *USE
Steve Lamb wrote:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:14:37 PM, Federico wrote:
sysadmin) control, /opt is where third-party package builders (e.g.,
Corel, KDE, Cygnus, etc...) control.
None of this describes one bit why it has to be a top level directory.
You may not like it, but not
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:21:57AM +0200, Anders Arnholm wrote:
If you like FreeBSD... *USE FREEBSD*.
You mean that if he likes the installation and flexibility of FreeBSD
usit, ignore rthat Debian does have someother things that are better
beacus some pepole in the Debian comunity does
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 09:21:22AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
Are you saying that people should sign keys received via e-mail,
rather than face to face ?
If so, I'm strongly against this.
Why?
I'd have hoped that that was clear by now, but
Steve Lamb wrote:
Then why /home/ftp instead of /ftp?
Because ~ftp is as short as /ftp.
Why /var/htdocs instead of /www?
Bacouase /var/htdocs is an error, the i.m.h.o. propper location is
/home/www, a.k.a. ~www
/ Balp
Steve Lamb wrote:
Considering one can install a fairly robust system (FreeBSD, Debian) over
FTP/NFS in under an hour and it takes 2-3 to go through a gig of data I would
much rather reinstall the programs and retrieve the relatively small data
(/etc, btw, is data).
As long at the
I'm going to package the software used with the Planet Connect satellite
Usenet feed service. We've been using it for a while, but there was no
explicit copyright/license terms in the upstream sources. A new version is
in the process of being released, and the author has agreed to resolve this,
Hi,
For those who hate typing, I would recommend /usr/packages - /usr/pak
/usr/pkg would be much better ;-)))
cu
gerhard
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We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds.
(Linus Torvalds about the superiority of Linux on the Amsterdam
Linux Symposium)
Andrew Pimlott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 01:22:33PM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote:
btw, anyone tried my extipl package for potato ? I think it is
superior than current i386 mbr on features that it can boot up
the system on the other hard disk (if the OS in that place
Pardon if I'm quite late, but I'm not subscribed to debian-devel and I came
on this almost by chance.
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:24:50 +0200, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How will u handle DNSSEC? Can you develop this part and the hooks outside
the states, so we can put it on non-US?
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 04:01:42PM -0500, David Welton wrote:
to function in a more standard way, so that you pretty much knew what
was going on, without having to figure out whatever wierd specific
system a particular maintainer has used.
Can you give an example of a non-standard rules file?
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:00:02PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
As another sometimes Solaris and HP user, hear hear. If the only way
What, you don't like this?
/ato/extern/gnu/bin:/usr/hp64000/bin:/usr/broadband/bin:/usr/broadband/util:
:-) From my HP
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 12:03:42PM -0700, Darren Benham wrote:
Well, we did it.
The software used by Debian for it's bug tracking, debbugs, was pacakged for
distribution several months ago and resides in Potato. Last weekend, Debian
upgraded it's bug server (bugs.debian.org) to the save
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 02:31:30PM -0500, David Welton wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:23:50PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 11:39:05AM -0700, David N. Welton wrote:
Joey Hess' debhelper scripts are a good API, maybe it would be
good to standardize on
Anthony Towns wrote:
beacus some pepole in the Debian comunity does not have tha same
problems...
STOP WRITING TO -devel AND START **DOING** SOMETHING ABOUT IT *
The day I get my key sigh by a developer and I get som exctra time. I
can contribitute something. BUT STILL NOT IN
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 03:54:15PM -0500, Erick Kinnee wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:23:50PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
No.
Uhm, WTH is that about? No, what? No, they suck? No, don't standardize?
No, don't standardize.
How about a better idea maybe?
If there were some
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:31:33PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
- forgetting the bug exists - does this occur?
I thought Brian White's occasional nag messages were very effective
in this case. However several developers threaten to resign if anyone
ever suggests they were a good idea on this list. If
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:31:33PM +1000, Brian May wrote:
- not sure you entirely believe bug report, but want to leave
bug report open anyway, just in case. bug reports aren't
always accurate, and it is possible that the reporter
made a mistake, but cannot be verified as such
by the
On Tue 14 Sep 1999, Michael Stone wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 11:55:39PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
Michael Stone wrote:
Not really. What if the pgp key is compromised? The original owner can
release a revocation certificate for the pgp key, but if someone creates
a new gpg key
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:01:18PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
I think his point is that if you can't trust a pgp signature to
sign a gpg key, why should trust a pgp signature to do anything
at all, e.g. accept an uploaded package. Seems like a reasonable
argument.
Because the real user can
* Steve Lamb said:
Why is placing third-party bianary packages in /opt a bad thing?
Because /opt is a duplication of an existing file structure which can
serve the purpose more than adequately. What people are asking me is what is
wrong with /opt when I am pointing out is that there
On Tue 14 Sep 1999, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On 14 Sep 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote:
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Again, no it isn't. How do they know that someone didn't steal your pgp
key?=20
How is this different from the question ``How does dinstall (or other
On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote:
I know there is some pathetic kudos about how many signatures you have
Is the pathetic part the reason why you don't have any? :-)
Paul Slootman
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On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Martin Schulze wrote:
PS: I would appreciate its use as well, it sucks that some pkg's are
rebuilding everything if one only is working on a patch in to one
file
If all I'm doing is trying fix something, usually just invoking 'make'
will do it (or some subtle variation
Hi,
I'm not a debian developer yet (and seems like I won't even attempt till I
feel that new maintainers are welcome), but I just wanted to comment on
how a re-organization might be done.
First of all, I'd like to state that dpkg system is all very well thought.
Speaking of modularity, package
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:23:24PM +0200, Anders Arnholm wrote:
Anthony Towns wrote:
beacus some pepole in the Debian comunity does not have tha same
problems...
STOP WRITING TO -devel AND START **DOING** SOMETHING ABOUT IT *
The day I get my key sigh by a developer and I get
On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote:
Perhaps someone made a typo and closed the wrong bug?
It was apparently done by the maintainer, and no further response
from him. Curious.
Paul Slootman
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On 15-Sep-99, 03:05 (CDT), Daniel Quinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the length of the PATH is a serious problem, we could potentially
to make /opt/bin front-ends a requirement. However, you then have
to solve (or at least ignore) the problem of potential namespace
conflicts. Add-on
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:34:55PM +0300, Eray Ozkural wrote:
I'm not a debian developer yet (and seems like I won't even attempt till I
feel that new maintainers are welcome),
If you've got a really useful package done up that you think would add to
Debian, get someone to sponsor you.
If
* Branden Robinson said:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 05:59:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 5:40:28 PM, Raul wrote:
As it happens, I already pointed you at the answer to that question,
you were just too lazy to take the hint. So [me being a fool], here's
a quote
On 14 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote:
Obviously, if we're life-long friends, and I send you a new key signed
with my old key, and then you phone me up and establish that I really
did send it to you, and that your pretty certain that it is me on that
answered the phone, then a face to face
* Steve Lamb said:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 2:39:46 PM, Jonathan wrote:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:14:37 PM, Federico wrote:
IMHO, /usr is what we (Debian) control, /usr/local is what I (the
sysadmin) control, /opt is where third-party package builders (e.g.,
Corel, KDE,
* Steve Lamb said:
Again, please do not reply above. It is rude.
No, it might be inconvenient for YOU, but it's not rude. You are rude, all
the time.
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:34:05 PM, Jonathan wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:
Then why /home/ftp instead of /ftp?
* Steve Lamb said:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 01:49:41PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
So why /opt and not /usr/opt with the possibility of /usr/local/opt?
Because unlike opt and local, there really isn't a difference between
/opt and /usr/opt -- except that one's a standard. Why not
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:45:24PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
* Steve Lamb said:
Again, please do not reply above. It is rude.
No, it might be inconvenient for YOU, but it's not rude. You are rude, all
the time.
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:34:05 PM, Jonathan wrote:
On Tue,
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:34:55PM +0300, Eray Ozkural wrote:
I'm not a debian developer yet (and seems like I won't even attempt till I
feel that new maintainers are welcome),
If you've got a really useful package done up that you think would add
They publish next week a magazine. they need 300DPI DEBIAN LOGO.
can i send to them ? (this one the fisrt page of www.debian.org)
if problem email to me. if not. i sen d to them this friday.
bst regards.
Frederic.
* Steve Lamb said:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:53:40 PM, Raul wrote:
Actually, the biggest problem with Windows is that it's not a standard.
But it is.
Oh? Show me an RFC or anything of the kind that makes WIndows standard? The
fact that it is installed on almost every OEM equipment
On Sep 14, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I signed my DSS key with the old RSA key and then asked people who
signed the old key to sign the new one with their DSS key.
This is easy and secure.
Again, no it isn't. How do they know that someone didn't steal your pgp
key?
I'm using
On Sep 14, David N. Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice if more packages built as if you were running a
regular make, instead of restarting from the beginning (running
./configure again), and in a more consistent manner.
I proposed many times dh_configure to debhelper maintainer
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Paul Slootman wrote:
I'm sure that most people don't check with the central key servers
every time they check a signature.
How should I do this? Is it automated? Can pine/mutt do it while I'm
online?
Flocsy
URL: http://flocsy.spedia.net MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Steve Lamb said:
Considering one can install a fairly robust system (FreeBSD, Debian) over
FTP/NFS in under an hour and it takes 2-3 to go through a gig of data I would
much rather reinstall the programs and retrieve the relatively small data
(/etc, btw, is data).
I can't believe what
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 12:59:40 +, Frederic CELLA wrote:
They publish next week a magazine. they need 300DPI DEBIAN LOGO.
At http://www.debian.org/logos/ you can find the logos as xfig source and as
postscript. (Use ghostscript to produce the logo in your favourite bitmap
format at your
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 07:39:19AM +, Marc Haber wrote:
Considering one can install a fairly robust system (FreeBSD, Debian) over
FTP/NFS in under an hour
If a broadband internet connection is available, yes. That doesn't
apply to all sites.
Who said anything about an internet
* Frederic == Frederic CELLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frederic They publish next week a magazine. they need 300DPI DEBIAN
Frederic LOGO. can i send to them ? (this one the fisrt page of
Frederic www.debian.org)
Check out http://www.debian.org/logos/. They can use the open use
logo, the
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:12:44PM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote:
No, I knew what the rationale was and I don't agree with it one bit. In
short, their rationale is wrong and we're repeating the mistake.
Well, I'm glad we have you around to give us the unambiguous,
unquestionable Word
Steve Lamb wrote:
Depends on what you have on there. If it is stuff that is easily replaced
from source, recompile. I'd backup the sources, not the programs themselves
It's almost always faster to recreate everything (idenical) from back
that from something else. (I suppost don't have any
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 02:43:59PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
* Steve Lamb said:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 2:39:46 PM, Jonathan wrote:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:14:37 PM, Federico wrote:
IMHO, /usr is what we (Debian) control, /usr/local is what I (the
sysadmin) control,
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Paul Slootman wrote:
If all I'm doing is trying fix something, usually just invoking 'make'
will do it (or some subtle variation that a glance at the rules file
will make clear). Once it builds, I do 'debian/rules clean' and then
restart the package build, to ensure
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 04:04:01PM +0200, Anders Arnholm wrote:
Steve Lamb wrote:
Depends on what you have on there. If it is stuff that is easily replaced
from source, recompile. I'd backup the sources, not the programs
themselves
It's almost always faster to recreate everything
* Sven LUTHER said:
How do you know I don't do just that, via symlinks? I bet you'd never
have
guessed I have /usr/src/linux symlinked to /sys
OK, now argue it as a standard for everyone as /opt is.
/opt is a de-facto standard. By usage. By tradition. By habit. By
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 03:54:15PM -0500, Erick Kinnee wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:23:50PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
No.
Uhm, WTH is that about? No, what? No, they suck? No, don't standardize?
No, don't standardize.
* Steve Lamb said:
None of this describes one bit why it has to be a top level
directory.
Because it fits the Unix tradition of lazy typists. Im a lazy typist.
Hear my carpal tunnel fingers cry out as they type the extra 4
characters in /usr/opt
Then why
Hi,
After the today's upgrade of the login and passwd with PAM support I have
found one problem. It seems that there's something wrong with the pam_limits
module. After enabling it for login I get the 'Module unknown' message and
the syslog records what follows:
Sep 15 16:41:38 jester
On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 05:43:21PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote:
How to switch to GnuPG for developers..a very brief mini-HOWTO
--
Very nice mini-HOWTO. But I still have several questions:
How does one generate an RSA key using the
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 04:42:56PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
Hi,
After the today's upgrade of the login and passwd with PAM support I have
found one problem. It seems that there's something wrong with the pam_limits
module. After enabling it for login I get the 'Module unknown' message
* Ben Collins said:
Sep 15 16:41:38 jester login[30897]: PAM unable to resolve symbol:
pam_sm_open_session
Sep 15 16:41:38 jester login[30897]: PAM unable to resolve symbol:
pam_sm_close_session
Any cure for that?
Update to the latest PAM 0.69-6 in incoming. Some one else also
In the preparation of a package, I've come up against a man page
made for Red Hat that doesn't process correctly for Debian (at
least on slink).
The man page defines a table like so:
[cut]
Hit ^C to stop after you see something like:
.in +3
.TS
tab(#);
l2 s2 s2 s4 s2 s4 s
l2 l2 l2 l4 l2 l4 l.
On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
The man page defines a table like so:
What happens if you pass the -pt option to man?
Paul Slootman
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On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 04:58:28PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
* Ben Collins said:
Sep 15 16:41:38 jester login[30897]: PAM unable to resolve symbol:
pam_sm_open_session
Sep 15 16:41:38 jester login[30897]: PAM unable to resolve symbol:
pam_sm_close_session
Any cure for
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:34:24AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
To stop the annoying FAQ:
--
Subject: ARRGGH!!! HOW DO I GET RID OF LINUS!
Who wants to do that ? You're silly.
Gregor
pgpEuV2qYtWHB.pgp
Description: PGP signature
We're supposed to record if we forward a bug report to the developer of the
upstream source package. The BTS assumes that the upstream developer has a
mail address to which the report is forwarded, and the BTS somehow relies on
this address.
Now what if the upstream developer expects bug reports
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
reassign 39256 general
Bug#39256: MD5_CRYPT_ENAB in /etc/login.defs
Bug reassigned from package `passwd' to `general'.
thanks
Stopping processing here.
Please contact me if you need assistance.
Debian Bug Tracking System
(administrator, Debian Bugs
Previously Frederic CELLA wrote:
can i send to them ? (this one the fisrt page of www.debian.org)
The webpage has a postscript version of the logo iirc. This should make
it trivial for them to produce a 300dpi logo (or whatever other
resolution they desire).
Wichert.
--
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:19:34PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
[...]
With dinstall a compromise is short lived and can be undone by erasing the
effected package. Creating a new key and getting people to sign it cannot
really be undone.
How do you prove to whoever is able to erase the
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 06:57:24AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 10:12:44PM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote:
No, I knew what the rationale was and I don't agree with it one bit.
In
short, their rationale is wrong and we're repeating the mistake.
Well, I'm glad
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 09:41:11AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
The specific problem is that with multiple optional helper packages
available, all are being used somewhere to build some package, so, if you
want to build all packages in Debian, you _must_ first install _all_ of
the helper
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How do you prove to whoever is able to erase the package that you
are who you say you are? I.e. how do you convince them that they
should in fact erase the package?
You do that by sending them a message signed with a new key, that you
have had signed
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote:
I know there is some pathetic kudos about how many signatures you have
Is the pathetic part the reason why you don't have any? :-)
Ah, I'd not updated my key in the keyring since I joined. Well not
until
Title: Distribution
Hi,
Just looking for someone to talk to about getting 3dfx on the Debian releases going forward. Thanks.
Andrew Fear
3dfx Interactive, Inc.
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:21:28AM -0700, Andrew Fear wrote:
Just looking for someone to talk to about getting 3dfx on the Debian
releases going forward. Thanks.
The ideal person would be Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
--
Raul
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 2:09:38 AM, Gerhard wrote:
/usr/pkg would be much better ;-)))
/var/pkg even more so. Oh, wait, that would be too close to /var/dpkg.
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Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 4:15:52 AM, Marek wrote:
As usually, you weren't listening. Somebody in this thread has said why it
is good to use /opt for third-party (usually commercial) packages:
I am listening. Others aren't thinking. Let me use your example as an
example.
/usr -
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 03:55:43AM +0100, Chris Rutter wrote:
I've had another early-morning idea. I think a metric called a bug
index should be invented. It would be calculated like this: every
severity of bug would be given a weight, say:
Sounds like an interesting idea - are you going to
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 2:09:38 AM, Gerhard wrote:
/usr/pkg would be much better ;-)))
/var/pkg even more so. Oh, wait, that would be too close to /var/dpkg.
Which is what, exactly? I don't have such a directory on my system.
On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 09:48:35AM -0700, David Bristel wrote:
While I agree that being completely i386 oriented on the web page, I will
point
out that the vast majority of systems out there are x86 based(I don't like the
i386 since I've prefered AMD CPUs over Intel since the 486 days). This
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 5:45:24 AM, Marek wrote:
* Steve Lamb said:
Again, please do not reply above. It is rude.
No, it might be inconvenient for YOU, but it's not rude. You are rude, all
the time.
Goody, I get to use this. Thank Tom Christiansen for this one. It was
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 5:49:09 AM, Marek wrote:
Huh? /opt IS a standard, and yet you opt (sic!) against it? So what IS your
point anyway?
Well, if you would *READ* you'd get it. Instead you just want to argue.
Windows is the standard in business computing. So let's all jump
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 6:03:47 AM, Marek wrote:
* Steve Lamb said:
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 3:53:40 PM, Raul wrote:
Actually, the biggest problem with Windows is that it's not a standard.
But it is.
Oh? Show me an RFC or anything of the kind that makes WIndows standard? The
Paul Slootman wrote:
What happens if you pass the -pt option to man?
$ man -pt -l ./powstatd.8
Then it works. Running that option on the _installed_ page like so:
$ man -pt powstatd
doesn't work.
The uptream author said I should be able to view the man page
using:
$ gtbl powstatd.8 |
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 6:25:12 AM, Marek wrote:
* Steve Lamb said:
Considering one can install a fairly robust system (FreeBSD, Debian) over
FTP/NFS in under an hour and it takes 2-3 to go through a gig of data I would
much rather reinstall the programs and retrieve the relatively
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 7:36:37 AM, Marek wrote:
For another time you show your ignorance.
Hardly.
ftp is a user which CAN LOG into the system and which does log into the
system.
For what purpose, pray tell? Why would this daemon enjoy privileges
others do not?
majordomo,
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 01:30:20PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
Joey Hess' debhelper scripts are a good API, maybe it would be
good to standardize on them to some degree.
No.
I didn't say make them THE standard
What did you mean then?
I think that as many packages as
Hi.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hands) writes:
Andrew Pimlott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(snip)
May I ask what the point of these enhanced mbr's is, since all of these
features are available from the boot loader (eg LILO)? I've always had my
LILO configured to
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 9:40:22 AM, Branden wrote:
On the contrary, you seem to believe your opinion should carry at least
equal weight to all the precedent and tradition that conflicts with it.
No, I have asked for and never got a valid *TECHNICAL* reason for it. It
took well over
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 11:25:11 PM, Jakob wrote:
software. FHS states that /usr must be sharable over a network - e.g. if I
should not be an issue there, either. However, the license for application
Foo may state that it
gphone (aka gnome-o-phone) is an internet telephone with a gtk
interface. It uses GSM compression, and thus should be useable over
reasonable modem connections, and is also compatible with the
speakfreely program for Windows and Unix.
http://www.math.okstate.edu/~droland/gphone/gphone.html
Tuesday, September 14, 1999, 7:22:08 PM, Michael wrote:
You have no point. You're making much ado about nothing.
I had a point, you just couldn't comprehend it, apparently.
The reason is that we need a place for ISV's to put software.
This was never disputed by me.
People have been
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 14:16:14 -0400, Michael Alan Dorman wrote:
and is also compatible with the speakfreely program for Windows and Unix.
Erm. Speak Freely employs crypto (it's in non-US/non-free). If gphone
employs crypto as well, shouldn't we find a non-US maintainer and a non-US
download
Yep, the debian-beowulf list is pretty silent. Now that I'm going to be
installing an x86 cluster within 2 weeks, I might get my hands on some useful
clustering software before the code freeze. Drake Diedrich says he can sponsor
the packages, so it'd be great to package the good stuff. There's
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Erm. Speak Freely employs crypto (it's in non-US/non-free). If gphone
employs crypto as well, shouldn't we find a non-US maintainer and a non-US
download location for it?
Sorry, I probably should have elaborated. gphone will work with
speakfreely
Previously Gregor Hoffleit wrote:
Now what if the upstream developer expects bug reports in a web-driven BTS
like Jitterbug ? How can I record in the BTS that I have submitted the
report into the upstream BTS ?
If I remember correctly the address that the BTS uses can in practice be
any
Klee had an interesting idea on this, that makes more sense I think. If
you look at all the different kinds of programs that are being packages
you notice that a lot of them fall into quite well-defined categories
such as Imake-based, automake-based, GNU-style, etc.
It would make sense to make a
Steven, you have no clue what we were even talking about do you. Go away.
Playing devils advocate is fine. You aren't even doing that right.
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:
Wednesday, September 15, 1999, 2:09:38 AM, Gerhard wrote:
/usr/pkg would be much better ;-)))
/var/pkg even
Steve Lamb wrote:
Sure I can. Now, *YOU* tell *ME* why you can't see the similarities
between /usr/local and /usr/opt in the above scenerio. I mean, if /usr is
If it wan't for that the rest of the Unix univere in about 20 years ago
started to use the /opt mhiracy for this you should
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