On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Peter Teichman wrote:
I have one question. What is the preferred way for me to handle our
gtk package? This is a library package that we actually apply some
patches to for a slightly nicer user interface.
Well, we don't have much provision for flavors of shared
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 11:58:22AM -0500, Vincent L. Mulhollon wrote:
Perhaps any package can live in unstable, but any package that has a
release critical bug older than 1 week is zapped from stable and placed back
in unstable. Upon next package upload, it will be reinstated into stable.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:37:52PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
(especially since this looks like just the well-established behavior of
downloading changed packages..)
I dont have a example right now, but on my system aptitude will download the
same package again and again. So in case it
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:06:30PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
Which is just a stupid pain in the ass. I had to track through three
different references and finally install the build-depends package to
find out what I could leave out of by Build-Depends stanza. It would
*much* easier for
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 01:17:20PM +1100, Trent Swift wrote:
When you telnet/ssh from an xterm on a dec/solaris box to potato
machine with ncurses.v.5.0-6, and then run less (or something that
uses /etc/terminfo/x/xterm) the screen goes into reverse video for all
output and with vi/emacs they
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Herbert == Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Herbert And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh
scripts
Herbert need to be POSIX compliant.
What policy says is:
We were talking about echo -ne, not echo -n which ash
Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 30 Aug 2000, Alex Romosan wrote:
can we please, please reverse the behaviour, or at least make it
configurable in /etc/apt/apt.conf, something like PreferLocal yes.
if there is such an option and i missed it, please point it out to me.
Come
Hi,
I have a cluster of diskless machines.
I've followed the instructions in the diskless package, and the machines
boot up as a result.
The diskless package is simply great. I'd spent a whole lot of time making
SuSE remote boot and thats what I have to use until i get Debian working
properly.
I just wanted to thank you guys!
I run Debian at work, one gateway and one server. Debian Slink 2.1
Today I upgraded to Potato, upgrade went almost perfectly except that
Samba 2.0.7 was not compatible with a 2.0.36 kernel. :-(
Maybe i just didn't read the docs. This night I upgraded the kernel
Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.2.1.0
On 2830T184956-0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 08:51:47PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
The definition is the following:
It is not be necessary to explicitly specify build-time relationships
on a minimal
Oliver M . Bolzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
# BTW, is there any docu on how to properly operete the new WNPP ?
See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
Marcelo
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, +00:52:25 EEST (UTC +0300),
Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn [EMAIL PROTECTED] pressed these keys:
Package: imap
Version: 4.7c-1
(Juhapekka Tolvanen's messages may be found on these mailing lists:
debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-legal@lists.debian.org)
Man, you got
On Wed 30 Aug 2000, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Paul Slootman wrote:
Then you must have some other arrangement to get the colors;
it's not enabled by default. Try a fresh install (I have).
Maybe a direct setting of LS_COLORS in your .bash_profile or
whatever?
Nope:
I intent to some packages -- erb, libiconv-ruby, libintl-gettext-ruby,
liblv-ruby, libmhash-ruby, libnet-irc-ruby, libsnmp-ruby,
libzlib-ruby and libsyslog-ruby.
erb:
Yet another implementation of eRuby. It is written as pure Ruby
script.
License: Ruby's (see below)
libiconv-ruby:
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:06:30PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
Which is just a stupid pain in the ass. I had to track through three
different references and finally install the build-depends package to
find out what I could leave out of by Build-Depends stanza. It would
*much* easier for
Sorry I couldn't answer yout letters earlier. I had to repair my mailbox.
I also had to involve and help the system administrators to go through all
the IMAP mailboxes and filter out all the messages with suspect headers.
Looks better now, thanks.
I don't know much about the IMAP intrinsics,
From: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: .bashrc (ls --color=auto setting)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:52:18 +0200
[tornado;~/cistron]-15 env|grep LS
zsh: done env |
zsh: exit 1 grep LS
I have ls aliased to 'ls --color=auto', which works great.
Well, the arguments
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 11:29:06AM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NIS doesn't work on the diskless machines. After some looking around,
I figured that it was the portmapper that really wasn't working.
It shows up in the ps listing, and there are no errors reported during
bootup for portmap.
On Thu 31 Aug 2000, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
caused the daemon (or the client) screw up the magic. I ended up with a
magic message looking like this:
,-
| From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Aug 30 16:36:48 2000
| Date: 30 Aug 2000 16:36:48 +0200
| From: Mail System Internal Data [EMAIL
Package: imap
Version: 4.7c-1
Severity: important
On Thu 31 Aug 2000, Paul Slootman wrote:
Yuck. Smells like a serious buffer overflow somewhere.
Upon a quick glance, there indeed appears to be no checks at all
for buffer overflows. A buf of 8k is allocated into which the
From:, Status:,
Eray Ozkural [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This was what I had to write to make a Packages file in a flat dir:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/debian$ dpkg-scanpackages . override ./
Packages
You don't have to supply a third argument.
--
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ )
viral == viral [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
viral NIS doesn't work on the diskless machines. After some
viral looking around, I figured that it was the portmapper that
viral really wasn't working. It shows up in the ps listing, and
viral there are no errors reported during bootup
Package: imap
Version: 4.7c-1
Severity: important
On Thu 31 Aug 2000, Paul Slootman wrote:
Yuck. Smells like a serious buffer overflow somewhere.
Upon a quick glance, there indeed appears to be no checks at all
for buffer overflows. A buf of 8k is allocated into which the
From:,
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 07:32:17AM -0400, Buddha Buck wrote:
commands. So having extremely long X-Keywords in mail messages
will screw things up. Double yuck.
This is in imap-4.7c/src/osdep/unix/unix.c BTW.
See the original message and the accompanying thread in debian-devel,
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 06:36:34AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was heard to say:
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:37:52PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote:
(especially since this looks like just the well-established behavior of
downloading changed packages..)
I dont have a example
Steve == Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve Are you saying that someone running a build daemon is not
Steve going to keep up-to-date on build-essential packages? Why not?
Steve And if not, why is my (the maintainer's) job to keep changing
Steve the version numbers in my control
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 04:57:51PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
All statically updated BTS pages are broken, please see DWN for details.
Might it be an idea to put a notice about this on the web page? It'd
avoid a lot of confusion.
--
Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:37:01PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
Purists happen to be whoever disagrees with Hamish Moffat. Cf. his
rhetoric here with his rhetoric in the great Social Contract amendment
flamewar.
Perhaps you should stick with your one liners, Branden. Your
three-liners
At 08:21 AM 8/31/00 -0400, Richard A Nelson wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote:
There might be bug in either Pine or IMAP(D) or both.
Both... I had to manually delete several messages in Pine 4.21 folders
and I don't use IMAP
I don't use pine or imap, but the school hosting my
Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So there's a warning? At least MD5 *can* be implemented at install-time. Why
doesn't he mention that Caldera for one doesn't even offer MD5 as an _option_
at install-time? Next:
What Caldera do doesn't matter at all. Neither does it matter what
anyone
Peter Makholm writes:
I've just helped a friend instaling Debian. He had two comment
about the above question. Is it the red or blue button there is
active? It is badly marked which button you are about the press.
You know, that *has* been bugging me... However you can use the cursor
to
Peter Makholm writes:
I've just helped a friend instaling Debian. He had two comment
about the above question. Is it the red or blue button there is
active? It is badly marked which button you are about the press.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Decklin Foster wrote:
You know, that *has* been
It's still mention in Suggests: etc. but the package is not listed in
the Packages files anymore. Just a temporary situation or a real problem?
Michael
--
Michael Meskes
Michael@Fam-Meskes.De
Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire!
Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!
Thank you for your answers.
Some misunderstood my idea, I don't want to remove
version numbers from packages.
Bernd:
How do u call slink? Old Stable? :)
Yes, old_stable or past
Bernd:
No i think it is not a bad idea to have a version number. The only question
is if the Version number should
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 10:03:04AM -0400, Decklin Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was heard to say:
Peter Makholm writes:
I've just helped a friend instaling Debian. He had two comment
about the above question. Is it the red or blue button there is
active? It is badly marked which button you
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 09:57:38PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
It means the libc6 package you have installed has a different md5sum then
the package it finds on ftp.corel.com, and assumes that the version on
ftp.corel.com is a newer recompile. Strange logic, but that is how
Which of course
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 02:47:15PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
What needs to be done is diff the record from the corel package file
against what is in their .deb and see if there is a difference in any
fields.
Yup, md5sum and size.
Michael
--
Michael Meskes
Michael@Fam-Meskes.De
Go SF
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 04:32:38PM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote:
It's still mention in Suggests: etc. but the package is not listed in
the Packages files anymore. Just a temporary situation or a real problem?
prc-tools (0.5.0r-3.1) frozen; urgency=low
* NMU
* Specify the archs (excluding
Previously Michael Meskes wrote:
It's still mention in Suggests: etc. but the package is not listed in
the Packages files anymore. Just a temporary situation or a real problem?
Someone *really* needs to NMU that package again and bring it up to
date, the current version is ancient and can't
On Thu 31 Aug 2000, Michael Meskes wrote:
Which of course is correct. Not only the md5sum is different but also the
filesize. Wonder what they did with the source.
It doesn't take much to create a different filesize. E.g. different
timestamps in the archive will lead to different compression
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I think that since every package using a helper package seems
to need a versioned dependency, addign debhelper to build essential
shall not remove the burden from the packages. And auto build daemons
can also augment the build environment beyond
On 31-Aug-00, 07:18 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Firstly, build essential package is ot merrely for
build daemaons.
No, but I think that's the primary reason for it's existence. If it
was mainly for humans, it would be sufficient to have checks in the in
Previously Thomas Guettler wrote:
Eric:
Better yet, don't put packages into stable until we release. Stable
has a fairly well-defined meaning; I don't see much benefit from changing
it.
We already do that.
I am new to debian-dev, why not release stable packages daily?
Why in a single
pgpWxQNs9EwTi.pgp
Description: PGP message
Brian May wrote:
From URL:http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, click on
Index of maintainers of packages with bug reports., and then
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] takes you to:
URL:http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/ma/lBrian_May,bam,debian.org,.html
Why is bug #69807, for my diskless-image-secure
[Please Cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] on any replies to this thread.]
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Buddha Buck wrote:
I don't use pine or imap, but the school hosting my mailbox uses imap.
The behavior I saw:
Using POP to copy new mail to my workstation at work (running Eudora)
seemed to cause ipop3d to
[Please Cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] on any replies to this thread.]
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Richard A Nelson wrote:
There might be bug in either Pine or IMAP(D) or both.
Both... I had to manually delete several messages in Pine 4.21 folders
and I don't use IMAP
Pine also uses libc-client which is
Funny side effect of the bug, here is the new magic message in my
mailbox :-)
Check out the X-IMAP: entry:
,-
| From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Aug 31 17:15:15 2000
| Date: 31 Aug 2000 17:15:15 +0200
| From: Mail System Internal Data [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Paul Slootman wrote:
On Thu 31 Aug 2000, Paul Slootman wrote:
Yuck. Smells like a serious buffer overflow somewhere.
Upon a quick glance, there indeed appears to be no checks at all
for buffer overflows. A buf of 8k is allocated into which the
From:, Status:,
Package: communicator
Version: 1:4.75-1
Severity: grave
I've updated communicator from security.d.o's potato packages. I had to
erase my preferences in ~/.netscape because it refused to save new
settings and when launched it was always like the first time with box
with license. I've lost cache,
Christian Surchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Package: communicator
Version: 1:4.75-1
Severity: grave
I've updated communicator from security.d.o's potato packages. I had to
erase my preferences in ~/.netscape because it refused to save new
settings and when launched it was always like the
I'm looking for someone to help me add a section to my newest Debian book
(which will be released under the GFDL BTW) that covers gateway
configuration. My primary problem is that I know next to nothing about how
this is accomplished, which makes it pretty hard to write about it ;-)
Some of the
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 12:18:54PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote:
not to mention that text/plain is displayed with vim!
All associated following mailcap I think, and it's impossible to handle
text/* with navigator too. :(
--
Christian Surchi | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2830T234249+0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:06:30PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
Which is just a stupid pain in the ass. I had to track through three
different references and finally install the build-depends package to
find out what I could leave out of by
How I get NFS to mount at bootup?
-
Khisar Paika
Albuquerque, NM
505-277-0808
Yes, and while you're at it, please close some bugs :-) I gave that
package away two years ago when I moved to alpha and I'm still getting
bug reports for it. Somebody else can take it if it's being ignored
(in fact, please do).
-- John
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Previously
Previously John Goerzen wrote:
Yes, and while you're at it, please close some bugs :-) I gave that
package away two years ago when I moved to alpha and I'm still getting
bug reports for it.
What prevents you from maintaining it on alpha?
Wichert.
--
For your amusement:
http://ftp-master.debian.org/~sanvila/mana
If upstream maintainers tell me this is alive, I'll upload it
(for project/experimental first).
Thanks.
At the time, it would build only on i386. I don't know if this is
still the case or not -- the whole thing is convoluted, I think it
forked into three or four separate branches by now.
-- John
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Previously John Goerzen wrote:
Yes, and while you're at
Peter Makholm wrote:
I've just helped a friend instaling Debian. He had two comment
about the above question. Is it the red or blue button there is
active? It is badly marked which button you are about the press.
Yes well there are already bugs filed on this, but it is going to change
a lot in
Daniel Burrows wrote:
I know that joeyh has been working on a much nicer-looking slang frontend
which doesn't suffer from this problem; maybe we can just ditch dialog
eventually and use that?
That is the plan; dialog is very limiting.
However there is a trivial fix for dialog/whiptail too
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
I intend to package Enhydra, an open source Java/XML application server
http://www.enhydra.org/software/enhydra/index.html. It is licensed as
follows (according to http://www.enhydra.org/software/license/):
Base Enhydra server and tools: FreeBSD license
XMLC
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
BibTeX2HTML is a collection of tools for producing automatically HTML
documents from bibliographies written in the BibTeX format. It
consists in two command line tools:
- bib2bib is a filter tool that reads one or several bibliography
files, filters the
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 03:05:04PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
I intend to package Enhydra, an open source Java/XML application server
http://www.enhydra.org/software/enhydra/index.html. It is licensed as
follows (according to
I know this theme has been repeated a lot here, but I still think that using
machine-specific optimizations can make a difference. Specifically, there are a
few packages (libgmp, gnupg, bzip2) where it could make a lot of difference.
Some packages use every tiny bit of extra compiler
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 05:34:01PM -0300, Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:
So, is there any plan to use them (like recompiling the package on the user's
machine)?
Yes, that is the plan. No, there is no other plan.
(Why can't we have cool undying threads like, I don't know, katanas?)
--
David
I've an outstanding, unanswered question which I've sent to UW in a
related context (IMAPD): what specific clause of the copyright is being
violated, when modified versions are distributed.
Their position was that the words permission to copy, distribute and
modify do not grant
So, is there any plan to use them (like recompiling the package on the user's
machine)?
you always have the option of using 'apt-get source' to recompile a package,
then place it on hold and we wont touch it.
Beyond that, it gets very messy. Not to mention the disk usage.
Users who
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 18:09:24 +0200 (+), Christian Surchi wrote:
Package: communicator
Version: 1:4.75-1
Severity: grave
I've updated communicator from security.d.o's potato packages. I had to
erase my preferences in ~/.netscape because it refused to save new
settings and when
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 08:29:30PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
Which is just a stupid pain in the ass. I had to track through three
different references and finally install the build-depends package to
find out what I could leave out of by Build-Depends stanza. It would
*much*
Steve == Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve On 31-Aug-00, 07:18 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Firstly, build essential package is ot merrely for
build daemaons.
Steve No, but I think that's the primary reason for it's
Steve existence. If it was mainly for
It can now be maintained on alpha, IIRC. I looked into it awhile ago and
they had brought it up to date with a modern gcc (so long 2.7.x, which
didn't work on alpha unless severely patched).
C
On 31 Aug 2000, John Goerzen wrote:
At the time, it would build only on i386. I don't know if this
I started this afternoon submitting bugs against packages which print verbose
output in their maintainer scripts. The future that Debian must take is to
fully support debconf. To further this goal I will continue submitting patches
to any package which prompts the user in a maintainer script.
Hi!
In the recent past, there have been multiple (bug) reports about the behaviour
of potato ( woody?) gpm in the presence of X (or vice versa, really). I've
done some research, with these results:
1. On slink and probably before (because I don't remember things being
differently), gpm did
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 01:49:13PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
So, is there any plan to use them (like recompiling the package on the
user's
machine)?
you always have the option of using 'apt-get source' to recompile a package,
then place it on hold and we wont touch it.
I support your conclusion and and asks the same question.
Why did it change?
Regards,
/Karl
---
Karl HammarAspö Data [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lilla Aspö 2340 +46 173 140 57
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 03:21:17PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
I started this afternoon submitting bugs against packages which print verbose
output in their maintainer scripts. The future that Debian must take is to
A thread came up here a little while back about installation scripts
Julian Gilbey wrote:
A thread came up here a little while back about installation scripts
sometimes not being able to use debconf for security or other
reasons.
That's not particularly accurate.
But we would like an interference-free install.
So what about introducing a
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000, J.A. Bezemer wrote:
**cut
b. Let gpm default to not repeating at all, without needing any further
documentation (AFAIK; I don't remember questions on gpm - X behaviour
in slink).
Obviously, b. is the right choice (IMHO ;-). Furthermore, a fix to this effect
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 11:02:58AM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote:
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 06:44:48PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
The README on security.debian.org already gives you that line..
Hmm, strange. It seems I missed reading this.
Maybe the complete list of sources should be at
Greetings all,
With the help of Domenico Andreoli, I have revised the Debian
(NM process) key signing coordination page. It is located here:
http://oink.cc.ntu.edu.tw/~cklin/signing/
Now the operations are fully automated, with a PostgreSQL database
in the back holding all information. The
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