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Re: Location of -doc documentation?
Nathan E Norman wrote: http://.../doc/apache;, while `debconf-doc' puts it under http://.../debconf-doc/;. I beleive the original point was that debconf-doc places its documentation in /usr/share/doc/debconf-doc, while apache-doc places its documentation in /usr/share/doc/apache, rather than /usr/share/doc/apache-doc. (Principle of least surprise, I suppose). Oh, then he was missing a /doc'. I suppose debconf-doc could do that. Except it includes an expanded changelog.Debian.gz file (35k). -- see shy jo
Re: Location of -doc documentation?
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 11:35:06PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Nathan E Norman wrote: http://.../doc/apache;, while `debconf-doc' puts it under http://.../debconf-doc/;. I beleive the original point was that debconf-doc places its documentation in /usr/share/doc/debconf-doc, while apache-doc places its documentation in /usr/share/doc/apache, rather than /usr/share/doc/apache-doc. (Principle of least surprise, I suppose). Oh, then he was missing a /doc'. I suppose debconf-doc could do that. Except it includes an expanded changelog.Debian.gz file (35k). I'm not willing to argue that one way is better than the other :) on the one hand, I'd expect the docs to be in a directory named after the package containing the docs. On the other hand apache and IIRC bind put docs in the package directory rather than package-doc, so I've grown accustomed to this as well. Consistency would be nice, but I don't think this is a huge issue, especially given other issues facing the project at this time. Regards, -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Inc. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpPaTcDJjJaW.pgp Description: PGP signature
perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
I'm planning a mass automated -quiet bug reporting spree against almost
all packages that depend on perl 5.00{5,4}[-base]. All such packages
should be updated to depend on perl-5.6 (possibly with 5.005 as an
alternate).
84 packages[1] would get bug reports; most are perl module packages.
Comments?
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see shy jo
[1] libgtk-perl
gnucash
libgd-perl
fml
libunicode-map8-perl
libsufary-perl
libfile-sync-perl
libmpeg-mp3info-perl
libio-pty-perl
libdigest-md5-perl
libcompress-zlib-perl
libkpathsea-perl
libalias-perl
libnet-perl
liblocale-gettext-perl
pilot-link-perl
liblockdev1-perl
webrt
entity
perl-5.005-suid
libnet-ssleay-perl
netsaint-plugins
xvile-xm
libterm-readline-gnu-perl
libcorba-orbit-perl
xvile-xt
libtime-hires-perl
libhtml-ep-perl
xemacs21-basesupport
libcdb-file-perl
libapache-session-perl
libmldbm-perl
xemacs21-basesupport-el
libmime-base64-perl
libnewt-perl
libipc-sharelite-perl
libtext-kakasi-perl
snap
libcdk-perl
libgtkxmhtml-perl
catalog
libgtkglarea-perl
libxml-parser-perl
libjcode-pm-perl
auto-apt
libgnome-perl
dpkg-ftp
libmail-cclient-perl
libapache-asp-perl
libtext-query-perl
libft-perl
libtext-iconv-perl
pdl
apache-perl
inn
libgladexml-perl
pgperl
freewrl
inn2
libset-object-perl
libcgi-pm-perl
vile
libhtml-parser-perl
libunicode-string-perl
speedy-cgi-perl
netcdf-perl
xvile-xaw
xemacs21-mulesupport-el
libplot-perl
libnet-rawip-perl
libgnome-gnorba-perl
libsql-statement-perl
libterm-readkey-perl
libtext-csv-perl
emacspeak
libtext-querysql-perl
libcurses-perl
libnet-socketssl-perl
perl-tk
postgresql-contrib
libdbd-odbc-perl
libgtk-imlib-perl
freepwing
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Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?
Adam Lazur wrote: The ability to install more than one version of a package simultaneously. Hmm. SO you install bash 2.04-1 and bash 2.02-3. Now what will be /bin/bash 2.04 or 2.02 version? You will divert both of them and symlink it to the old name - maybe, but but how will you know, to what name it diverts to use it? Give me please 3 sane examples, why you need this. And no, shared libraries are NOT an excuse for this. Some intelligence for handling multiple machines. Like the ability to nfs mount /usr and have the package manager understand what's going on. sounds like something like --exclude /usr (didn't doogie implement this in 1.8 branch?) Petr Cech
Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Petr Èech wrote: Some intelligence for handling multiple machines. Like the ability to nfs mount /usr and have the package manager understand what's going on. sounds like something like --exclude /usr (didn't doogie implement this in 1.8 branch?) No, this is destined for 1.9, when it can be more generic. The patch was rather simple to implement, tho. BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK Version: 3.12 GCS d- s: a-- c+++ UL P+ L !E W+ M o+ K- W--- !O M- !V PS-- PE++ Y+ PGP++ t* 5++ X+ tv b+ D++ G e h*! !r z? -END GEEK CODE BLOCK- BEGIN PGP INFO Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]Finger Print | KeyID 67 01 42 93 CA 37 FB 1E63 C9 80 1D 08 CF 84 0A | DE656B05 PGP AD46 C888 F587 F8A3 A6DA 3261 8A2C 7DC2 8BD4 A489 | 8BD4A489 GPG -END PGP INFO-
Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that reall necessary? No, but it's a good idea. It makes it much easier to work in directories shared with other users (but not all users), because you don't have to keep changing your umask all the time, or even worse, fixing file permissions because you (or somebody else) forgot to change their umask. I always thought it was a paranoid kind of security feature in Debian. I might be wrong of course. How does giving every user his own group makes it easier for him to share files without system administrator's intervention? I couldn't guite get it, sorry I just woke up but I simply don't understand it. A small example? What's the harm in it? It populates the groups? I want only meaningful groups there. Thanks, -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user
Brian May wrote: zsh has in /etc/zshrc: [[ $UID == $GID ]] umask 002 || umask 022 My only dislike is it overrides my default setup in ~/.zshenv of 077. It seems wrong to put this stuff in zshrc, that only gets used for interactive shells. zshenv gets processed for all shells, but is run before zshrc. I use bash. Is this zsh better? :) Thanks, -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo
Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:38:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: No, but it's a good idea. It makes it much easier to work in directories shared with other users (but not all users), because you don't have to keep changing your umask all the time, or even worse, fixing file permissions because you (or somebody else) forgot to change their umask. [...] How does giving every user his own group makes it easier for him to share files without system administrator's intervention? I couldn't guite get it, sorry I just woke up but I simply don't understand it. A small example? It allows users to set their default umask to allow group access. That way, when they are working in their own directories, their files will only be readable/writable/etc. by themselves, and when working in a shared directory, the files will be readable/writable/etc. by other members of the group. All without having to change the umask or set any permissions manually. -- - mdz
Re: What do you wish for in an package manager
Jeffry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: download the source, have my machine do the compile, but still have all the dependencies properly worked out (sort of an expanded apt-get -b source). I guess you should get both the ordinary depends and the build-depends. I fail to see where there should be problems. It's just a depency-check. Ohhh, depencies is placed in debian/control and most of the times it is decided on compile time which packages to depend on. That could be a problem if you only want one download phase. Is there examples of packages where build-depends is available but the newly build package is not instalable on the system? (And should this could happen)
Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:38:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: I always thought it was a paranoid kind of security feature in Debian. I might be wrong of course. How does giving every user his own group makes it easier for him to share files without system administrator's intervention? I couldn't guite get it, sorry I just woke up but I simply don't understand it. A small example? Sure. Let's say you have a pair of users, Jose and HoseB, each with home directories in /home, with a single-user group each. They have some confidential files which they keep in their home directories and want to hide from each other. They also work on a project together, in /project. They have another group, which they both belong to, and all the files in /project use that GID. There are other users on the system who are not working on the project and who should not be able to look at /project. Jose and HoseB can set their umask to allow group read/write by default. When they write to their home directories, the files belong to their individual user groups, so nobody else can read them. When they write in /project, the files belong to the project group, so they can both read them. And nobody except Jose and HoseB can read the files in /project either, because they're not world read/writable. Now, imagine if Jose and HoseB shared a 'users' group, which their home directories used, as well as the project group. When they write to their home directories, their files end up group read/writeable to all users! Or if they set their umask to allow user read/write only, then they end up with files in /project which the other person can't read. They have to remember to fix file permissions all the time. This is a big nuisance. I spent months working on a project with a shared directory without individual user groups. Worse yet, you can end up with a CVS repository full of files with user-only permissions (using a local CVS repositor, rather than remote). Of course this is not an issue if (a) you never need to share files with a subset of users (use world read/write), or (b) you never need to share files at all (user read/write only). It populates the groups? I want only meaningful groups there. Per-user groups are very meaningful, and are a good demonstration of why Debian is a superior OS to many others. Regards, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000 08:36:34 -0500, Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though maybe this program is forcing itself on the wrong interface to syslog. Maybe it should really be reading from a fifo, a la /dev/xconsole, rather than trying to read from files. Having this, it would be impossible to scroll back beyond the point syslog was when the less process was started Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
gtk-doc vs glib1.2-dev info file conflict
When upgrading libgtk-doc glib.info.gz conflicts with the same file from libglib1.2-dev. Which package is to remove the info file? Preparing to replace libgtk-doc 1:1.0.6-4 (using .../libgtk-doc_1%3a1.0.6-5_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libgtk-doc ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk-doc_1%3a1.0.6-5_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/info/glib.info.gz', which is also in package libglib1.2-dev Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk-doc_1%3a1.0.6-5_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:27:32AM +, Marc Haber wrote: On Mon, 25 Dec 2000 08:36:34 -0500, Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though maybe this program is forcing itself on the wrong interface to syslog. Maybe it should really be reading from a fifo, a la /dev/xconsole, rather than trying to read from files. Having this, it would be impossible to scroll back beyond the point syslog was when the less process was started Depending on the situation, that could be either better or worse than the current situation (where it is impossible to scroll back once the logfile has been rotated). It is only worse for the first rotation period; after that, there will be more data in less than in the logfile. -- - mdz
ITP: gpa -- The GNU Privacy Assistent
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Description: The GNU Privacy Assistent The GNU Privacy Assistent is a graphical user interface for the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG). this program is licensed under the GPL the package can be found at http://elxsi.de/~waldi/debian/gpa/ the original package can be found at http://www.gnupg.org bastian -- Life and death are seldom logical. But attaining a desired goal always is. -- McCoy and Spock, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.7 pgp3rrDvnGQzQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user
Hi Brian May schrieb: Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:13:13AM +1100, Brian May wrote: However, the idea of one UID per daemon is (IMHO) a really horrible solution, too, as you end up having more UIDs for daemons then users. Hamish Why is that a problem? There are 65536 available UIDs. Some potential problems though: - easy to hide back-door entry point in /etc/passwd if lots of entries exist (eg. missing password field). Whether this is by mistake or done on purpose by an attacker is not important, but the fact it is harder to detect may be important. Regular /etc/passwd checking is done by a pretty rigid scripts usually. It really does not matter how many entries there are in /etc/passwd. Checking it by hand seems pointless to me. - As the number of entries grows, the chance that one/more entries will conflict with some NIS, openldap or remote NFS system increases. Especially since adduser, etc, do not support NIS or openldap. I am not sure of the details here - can adduser assign a local user a UID that conflicts with that from some other source? Then we should fix adduser and libc(PAM/NSS). I tried to get the normal 'passwd' to change passwords on nis (well, passwdd; pam_unix seems to be able to do this) but couldn't get it to work (I hadn't that much time for it though). - harder to administrate /etc/passwd as more users exist. Something that seems improtant to me: providing a way to use less users/groups on some systems should be easy once every daemon can have it's own (adduser creating system accounts with same UID/GID comes to mind). The other way round it's harder. ciao, 2ri
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
On 00-12-25 Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 01:29:44PM +, Marc Haber wrote: On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:41:54 -0500, Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I would say that if the program dies so frequently that it needs a wrapper like this, it should probably be fixed. console-log uses less syslog which dies every time the user types Q. And it needs to die if the log has been rotated. It would be nice if less included a feature to close and reopen the current file. Then this would not be necessary. Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail. Ciao Christian -- Debian Developer and Quality Assurance Team Member 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 pgpTPZeKJ9TrV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:26:10PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: On 00-12-25 Matt Zimmerman wrote: It would be nice if less included a feature to close and reopen the current file. Then this would not be necessary. Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail. It sounds pretty easy to implement; just stat() and compare the inode number. Is this how the FreeBSD tail does it? Why not write a patch for GNU tail? -- - mdz
Re: adoption - gdict
eechi von akusyumi (2000-12-24 19:03:47 +0800) : I would like to adopt the package gdict and maintain it. Would you guys ther like to give me some pointers on how should i do? You might want to have a look at the gnome-utils package. It's actively maintained by James LewisMoss, and it Replaces: gdict (since it includes it). So, you could either contact the maintainer and get him to re-split what was previously merged, or adopt the whole package, or help him maintain it. Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, il y a des borgnes à ne pas dépasser. -- in Soeur Marie-Thérèse des Batignoles (Maëster)
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
Today, Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail. Uh, is this what you mean? $ echo bar /tmp/foo $ tail -f /tmp/foo (sleep 1; echo baz /tmp/foo; sleep 1; echo qux /tmp/foo) bar[time passes] baz[time passes] == /tmp/foo: file truncated == qux $ fg ^C $ tail --version tail (GNU textutils) 2.0 -- Andreas Fuchs, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], antifuchs Hail RMS! Hail Cthulhu! Hail Eris! All hail Discordia!
Re: Close list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hamish Moffatt) wrote on 25.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 08:43:51PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: I have a comment: NO WAY IN HELL. The day that we start rejecting DUL posts is the day that several people leave the project, me included. How many ISPs these days route mail worth a damn? :-) Joseph you make it too easy. You never did tell us why you can't arrange a proper smarthost, such as a debian.org machine with an ssh tunnel. Just tested that. ssh to master, telnet to localhost smtp, it was quite willing to relay mail with a non-local envelope. (And left enough clues in the header to track who did that just in case it ever becomes necessary.) Now if someone was to send much mail that way, I expect checking with the admins in advance might be a good idea, but for low volume (and for contents where the association with Debian in the mail headers won't be a problem) this seems like an easy way to do it. For automated usage, I expect one would prefer something like netcat to telnet, though :-) MfG Kai
Re: Close list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miles Bader) wrote on 24.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: flame war Now maybe if we were using the RBL, DUL, and RSS lists... :-) /flame war GNU mailing lists (supposedly) use RBL, but in a mode where `spam' isn't deleted, but rather just gets a header added saying `this message is considered suspicious'. That allows individual recipients to do as they see fit. Yes, they use Exim on Debian to do that. I recently investigated a filtered-out mail from some GNU mailing list at work and noticed that it had gone through maybe half a dozen systems, every single one running Exim on Debian (it got the header because it was sent directly from a dialup). Currently I ignore these headers for mailing lists since I've had several mailing lists temporarily come from hosts listed in one of these things. The most embarassing case was the list working on the next release of the mail standards (RFC 821/822); the mailing list host (an uni) was a wide- open relay for months (We need that for our faculty or some such nonsense). MfG Kai
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Wirzenius) wrote on 24.12.00 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ignoring spam has made the internet the spam-ridden place it is right now. Spam hasn't been ignored for the past six years, thank you very much. It thrives regardless of the large efforts to kill it, because a) it is cheap and b) there are enough people who react to the ads by buying. Note that point a) means that enough people tends to be about one... There's another wrinkle here that often gets overlooked. Most spam does not even *need* to work for spam as such surviving, as long as people keep buying spamware. Selling spamware is one of the really successful spam variants. Those guys don't care if the people they sell spamware to are successful with their spams. Did you ever wonder (assuming you even noticed) why so much spam gets sent to completely invalid addresss (for example, to message ids)? Because spamware sellers don't care if the finely targetted addresses they sell actually work (let alone are targetted in any way). MfG Kai
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:26:10PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail. in fact GNU tail does have this feature, its just done a bit differently: tail --follow=name --retry /var/log/messages ive been using this for ages without any problems, works quite nicely with log rotation, tail just outputs a message saying the file has been replaced, and follows the new one. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpg3TAN5txVY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: adoption - gdict
You might want to have a look at the gnome-utils package. It's actively maintained by James LewisMoss, and it Replaces: gdict (since it includes it). So, you could either contact the maintainer and get him to re-split what was previously merged, or adopt the whole package, or help him maintain it. Would you like to give his email address to me? and also, i'm now applying at http://nm.debian.org and i want to know how long (average) is the process) Roland. -- Cagito, ego sum. - Original Message - From: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 8:30 PM Subject: Re: adoption - gdict eechi von akusyumi (2000-12-24 19:03:47 +0800) : I would like to adopt the package gdict and maintain it. Would you guys ther like to give me some pointers on how should i do? You might want to have a look at the gnome-utils package. It's actively maintained by James LewisMoss, and it Replaces: gdict (since it includes it). So, you could either contact the maintainer and get him to re-split what was previously merged, or adopt the whole package, or help him maintain it. Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, il y a des borgnes ?ne pas dasser. -- in Soeur Marie-The des Batignoles (Mater) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: adoption - gdict
eechi von akusyumi (2000-12-26 21:01:17 +0800) : You might want to have a look at the gnome-utils package. It's actively maintained by James LewisMoss, and it Replaces: gdict (since it includes it). So, you could either contact the maintainer and get him to re-split what was previously merged, or adopt the whole package, or help him maintain it. Would you like to give his email address to me? Um, you can get this information either by dpkg -s gnome-utils or by http://packages.debian.org/. His Debian login is dres, so his email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and also, i'm now applying at http://nm.debian.org and i want to know how long (average) is the process) It varies alot. You can get an idea of the numbers on the website itself. As an example, I applied in November and I am almost completely done (I'm waiting for the Debian account manager to create my account), but it takes longer for some other people. Roland. -- Roland Mas Chaos always defeats order, because it is better organized. -- Ly Tin Wheedle, in Interesting Times (Terry Pratchett)
Re: ITP: gpa -- The GNU Privacy Assistent
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Bastian Blank wrote: Description: The GNU Privacy Assistent The GNU Privacy Assistent is a graphical user interface for the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG). Its a nice little program, I am using this myself. Though it has one major design flaw: every time you delete a key it re-rereads the keyring which is very time consuming when you have more than say 200 public keys... Bastian
List of packages that could be dropped
Hi, we currently have a really huge list of packages that are orphaned and so I looked at them to see if we can drop some of them. Here are some suggestion and my comments. Any comment from you is appreciated: |ppd-gs (1 year and 357 days old) Do we really need this package still for users of alladin ghostscript or is it not needed anymore? |tcp4u (1 year and 81 days old) [Package libtcp4u3] Is this package still useful or can we drop it? |cthugha (1 year and 31 days old) Is this package really used by someone or useful for anything? The description is not very helpful in finding this out. |silo (195 days old) Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache search silo. |dip (1 year and 81 days old) Fabrizio, has this package really been taken over? If yes, could you please close the wnpp-bug for it? Thanks. |libmikmod (214 days old) Is any architecture still using libmikmod1 or could we drop this part of the libmikmod package? |rel (1 year and 41 days old) Is this package used by anyone or can we just drop it? |mhash (235 days old) Has this package been dropped from unstable? If yes, can we close the wnpp-bug about it? |guavac (2 years and 53 days old) Can we please drop this package from our distribution as even upstream orphaned this package? |malaga (210 days old) Has this package been dropped? If yes, why and could be please close then the bug about it against wnpp? |admesh (349 days old) Has this package any good purpose or could it be dropped? |dpkg-scriptlib -- dpkg-perl and dpkg-python (142 days old) Is any package using functions of dpkg-perl or dpkg-python? If yes, I think someone should take care of this packages and the bugs that are in them. If not, could we move this packages from our distribution to experimental until they are fixed and a new maintainer for them has been found? |fnlib (104 days old) Has this package been removed from our distribution? is enlightenment not using it anymore? Or has it just be renamed? If the first is true, can we close the wnpp bug for it or if the last is true, can then someone please rename the bug in wnpp for it? |xipmsg (74 days old) Is this piece of software really used this days, where we have, ICQ,AIM,Jabber and other instant messenger tools? Ciao Christian -- Debian Developer and Quality Assurance Team Member 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 pgpkAkyvCViB5.pgp Description: PGP signature
How to update packages?
Hello, I have made a couple of packages for potato and would like to update them to the latest upstream-version? What is the easiest way to update the source-package? Bye, Olaf
Re: Close list
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 11:36:00AM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: Just tested that. ssh to master, telnet to localhost smtp, it was quite willing to relay mail with a non-local envelope. (And left enough clues in the header to track who did that just in case it ever becomes necessary.) Now if someone was to send much mail that way, I expect checking with the admins in advance might be a good idea, but for low volume (and for contents where the association with Debian in the mail headers won't be a problem) this seems like an easy way to do it. For automated usage, I expect one would prefer something like netcat to telnet, though :-) Or better, ssh port forwarding. Simpler, more reliable, and encryption as a bonus. ssh -L localport:localhost:25 somewhere.debian.org sleep a_while and while ssh is connected, connect to localport on the client side to be forwarded to port 25 on localhost at the server side. -- - mdz
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 01:38:03PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: Today, Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail. Uh, is this what you mean? $ echo bar /tmp/foo $ tail -f /tmp/foo (sleep 1; echo baz /tmp/foo; sleep 1; echo qux /tmp/foo) bar[time passes] baz[time passes] == /tmp/foo: file truncated == qux $ fg ^C $ tail --version tail (GNU textutils) 2.0 No, this is a truncated file. Christian was talking about a renamed and recreated file, which requires a different sort of watching. As someone else pointed out in this thread, GNU tail uses --follow=name to do the right thing in this case. -- - mdz
Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:05:00PM +0200, Kai Henningsen wrote: Did you ever wonder (assuming you even noticed) why so much spam gets sent to completely invalid addresss (for example, to message ids)? Because spamware sellers don't care if the finely targetted addresses they sell actually work (let alone are targetted in any way). On related note, it's fun to watch all the spams sent to oldclosedbug@bugs.debian.org or even oldclosedbug[EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses. OTOH it's not fun to discover that someone spammed existingbug[EMAIL PROTECTED] (those escape me since I'm not watching the appropriate mailing list). For the record, right now I'm the primary reason why the spam in the BTS `magically' disappears, once it's reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:24:34AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
I'm planning a mass automated -quiet bug reporting spree against almost
all packages that depend on perl 5.00{5,4}[-base]. All such packages
should be updated to depend on perl-5.6 (possibly with 5.005 as an
alternate).
ITYM -maintonly.
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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
all packages that depend on perl 5.00{5,4}[-base]. All such packages
should be updated to depend on perl-5.6 (possibly with 5.005 as an
alternate).
I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl
recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules.
It's no use if I got hmm say Apache::DBI module, but perl5.6 can't find it
because it's in 5.005 tree, and DBD::Pg hidden in 5.005 tree, that cannot
be used by 5.6 due to some binary incompatibilities.
Current situation - with perl5.00x handling old modules and perl5.6 newer
ones seems the best for stability of a system. Of course it's a bit
confusing to admin.
Or did I got completely confused and misunderstood the case?
reg. eyck.
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules. I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6. Last I heard, they weren't playing well together. Of course it's a bit confusing to admin. Life is complex.
Re: Location of -doc documentation?
Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joey Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: I just noticed that `apache-doc' puts the documentation under http://.../doc/apache;, while `debconf-doc' puts it under http://.../debconf-doc/;. Joey Eh? (Debconf-doc is a package, that contains some documentation files. Joey It doesn't touch the web space at all.) s,/debconf-doc/,/doc/debconf-doc/,
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules. I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6. Last I heard, they weren't playing well together. I can verify that it works, we did a local recompile: Package: libapache-mod-perl Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: web Installed-Size: 1032 Maintainer: Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 1.24.01-2 Depends: apache-common (= 1.3.14-0), apache-common ( 1.3.15-0), perl-5.6, libwww-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libdevel-symdump-perl, data-dumper, liburi-perl, libc6 (= 2.1.97), libperl5.6 (= 5.6.0) It also seems to be working fine. -- The idea is that the first face shown to people is one they can readily accept - a more traditional logo. The lunacy element is only revealed subsequently, via the LunaDude. [excerpted from the Lunatech Identity Manual]
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:13PM +0100, I wrote: I can verify that it works, we did a local recompile: Maybe we did, but I can't read apt-cache output because this version comes simply from unstable. So no ifs and whens, it's already done and it works. -- The idea is that the first face shown to people is one they can readily accept - a more traditional logo. The lunacy element is only revealed subsequently, via the LunaDude. [excerpted from the Lunatech Identity Manual]
Re: List of packages that could be dropped
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: |ppd-gs (1 year and 357 days old) Do we really need this package still for users of alladin ghostscript or is it not needed anymore? Last time I asked for this to be removed, a few people said this was useful. FWIW. |silo (195 days old) Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache search silo. That's because it's SPARC-specific LILO variant, IIRC. |libmikmod (214 days old) Is any architecture still using libmikmod1 or could we drop this part of the libmikmod package? I think we should keep the newer sources for libmikmod, it's useful for one of XMMS plugins :) -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
List of packages needing a new maintainer
Below is a listing of packages needing a new maintainer. I know that all the information is in the WNPP already, but I thought it would be a good idea to post a summary since the WNPP bugs were not CCed here. If you want any of these packages, please look up the bug number at http://bugs.debian.org/wnpp and retitle the bug (see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp for more information). Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] O: xcircuit -- Draw circuit schematics or almost anything. O: gmp -- Multiprecision arithmetic library Masato Taruishi [EMAIL PROTECTED] O: youbin -- The conventional mail arrival notification server. O: tcl8.0-ja -- The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package O: tk8.0-ja -- The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package. Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] O: manpages-de -- German manpages Robert S. Edmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFA: netcat -- TCP/IP swiss army knife RFA: gdict -- small GTK app to retrieve definitions from MIT's dictionary server RFA: yabasic -- Yet Another BASIC interpreter RFA: gtimer -- GTK-based X11 task timer RFA: gtkbrowser -- a GTK file browser RFA: gedit -- small, lightweight gnome-based editor for X11 RFA: gtick -- GTK-based metronome RFA: vstream -- bttv video capture utility aimed at making MPEGs The following packages (originally maintained by John Lapeyre) have been in the WNPP for a very long time. If no one adopts them soon, they will probably be removed alltogether. #68199 O: saml -- Simple Algebraic Math Library #68200 O: sciplot -- widget for scientific plotting #68201 O: sipp -- create and render 3-d scenes #68203 O: slatec 68204 -- numerical computation library #68205 O: tela -- interactive tensor language #68206 O: tochnog -- finite element analysis program #68300 O: admesh -- processing triangulated solid meshes #68301 O: aribas -- interpreter for arithmetic #68303 O: bugsx -- evolve biomorphs using genetic algorithms #68304 O: circlepack -- creation and display of circle packings #68308 O: dstool -- dynamical systems investigation #68309 O: dstool-doc -- documents for dstool (dynamical systems investigation) #68311 O: dstooltk -- dynamical systems investigation (Tk version) #68312 O: dstooltk-doc -- dynamical systems investigation (Tk version) #68313 O: fvwmconf -- Real-time interactive configuration of fvwm2 #68314 O: g2 -- simple to use 2D graphics library #68317 O: grafix -- scientific visualization library #68319 O: m2c -- Modula-2 translator (compiler) #68320 O: meschach -- library for performing operations on matrices and vectors O: plotmtv -- multipurpose X11 plotting program -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgptDR3ZQ5MCK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: List of packages needing a new maintainer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 26 December 2000 16:50, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Below is a listing of packages needing a new maintainer. I know that all the information is in the WNPP already, but I thought it would be a good idea to post a summary since the WNPP bugs were not CCed here. If you want any of these packages, please look up the bug number at http://bugs.debian.org/wnpp and retitle the bug (see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp for more information). [snip] Robert S. Edmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFA: gedit -- small, lightweight gnome-based editor for X11 I'd like to take gedit if nobody has objections. I have only a small problem because I'll need a sponsor for this package (I have no approval from the DAM for my debian account). - -- Mariusz Przygodzki| Good judgement comes from experience. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Experience comes from bad judgement. http://www.dune.home.pl | GPG KeyID: 0x42FAD771 GPG Fingerprint: 1990 F07B FFB4 BE0B FF26 10C2 BE2B 965C 42FA D771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjpIyewACgkQviuWXEL613GzmgCfXFC4rXC6AXDxtNW6CHszEuf6 4bUAoIkS1nwhfsaU+FibLia0i6x0h+b9 =ZssW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
On 00-12-26 Andreas Fuchs wrote: Today, Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail. Uh, is this what you mean? $ echo bar /tmp/foo $ tail -f /tmp/foo (sleep 1; echo baz /tmp/foo; sleep 1; echo qux /tmp/foo) bar[time passes] baz[time passes] == /tmp/foo: file truncated == No, because you truncate the file here and that shouldn't happen. Ciao Christian -- Debian Developer and Quality Assurance Team Member 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 pgpl4AsasGZgg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
On 00-12-26 Ethan Benson wrote:
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:26:10PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with
-F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the
logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current
one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail.
in fact GNU tail does have this feature, its just done a bit
differently:
tail --follow=name --retry /var/log/messages
ive been using this for ages without any problems, works quite nicely
with log rotation, tail just outputs a message saying the file has
been replaced, and follows the new one.
Well, as I'm a bit lazy in typing always this long option names, I just
wrote a patch to support -F and --follow-forever that do the same. As
the patch is very small, I will just attach it to this mail. (Yes, I
will seperately send it to the BTS.)
Ciao
Christian
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diff -uNr textutils-2.0.old/src/tail.c textutils-2.0/src/tail.c
--- textutils-2.0.old/src/tail.cThu Aug 5 16:38:02 1999
+++ textutils-2.0/src/tail.cTue Dec 26 17:33:25 2000
@@ -187,6 +187,7 @@
{allow-missing, no_argument, NULL, CHAR_MAX + 1},
{bytes, required_argument, NULL, 'c'},
{follow, optional_argument, NULL, 'f'},
+ {follow-forever, optional_argument, NULL, 'F'},
{lines, required_argument, NULL, 'n'},
{max-unchanged-stats, required_argument, NULL, CHAR_MAX + 2},
{max-consecutive-size-changes, required_argument, NULL, CHAR_MAX + 3},
@@ -1311,7 +1312,7 @@
count_lines = 1;
forever = from_start = print_headers = 0;
- while ((c = getopt_long (argc, argv, c:n:f::qs:v, long_options, NULL))
+ while ((c = getopt_long (argc, argv, c:n:f:F::qs:v, long_options, NULL))
!= -1)
{
switch (c)
@@ -1357,6 +1358,11 @@
follow_mode = XARGMATCH (--follow, optarg,
follow_mode_string, follow_mode_map);
break;
+
+ case 'F':
+ forever = 1;
+ follow_mode = Follow_name;
+ reopen_inaccessible_files =1;
case CHAR_MAX + 1:
reopen_inaccessible_files = 1;
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Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in
On 00-12-26 Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:26:10PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: On 00-12-25 Matt Zimmerman wrote: It would be nice if less included a feature to close and reopen the current file. Then this would not be necessary. Well, this is a feature that tail on FreeBSD has. If you start it with -F, it will tail you the current file like our tail -f. But if know the logfile will be rotated, it will notice this and reopen the new current one and tail this one. This is a feature that I really miss in GNU tail. It sounds pretty easy to implement; just stat() and compare the inode number. Is this how the FreeBSD tail does it? Why not write a patch for GNU tail? I'm not sure how FreeBSD tail handle this exactly, as I didn't look at it's code till now. But after having read the Mail from Ethan I think about patching tail to have an option -F which combines --follow=name and --retry. :) Ciao Christian -- Debian Developer and Quality Assurance Team Member 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 pgpFL4vjQnvNg.pgp Description: PGP signature
BTS spam( Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!)
In Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:06:08 +0100 Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit : On related note, it's fun to watch all the spams sent to oldclosedbug@bugs.debian.org or even oldclosedbug[EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses. OTOH it's not fun to discover that someone spammed existingbug[EMAIL PROTECTED] (those escape me since I'm not watching the appropriate mailing list). For the record, right now I'm the primary reason why the spam in the BTS `magically' disappears, once it's reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) I've seen one in lyx-cjk bugs. It's cosmetically annoying. I really would love to remove it but there would be quite a lot of trouble (and fear that legitimate info could be lost). regards, junichi -- University: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Netfort: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dancer, a.k.a. Junichi Uekawa http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer Dept. of Knowledge Engineering and Computer Science, Doshisha University. ... Long Live Free Software, LIBERTAS OMNI VINCIT.
BTS spam( Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!)
In Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:06:08 +0100 Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit : On related note, it's fun to watch all the spams sent to oldclosedbug@bugs.debian.org or even oldclosedbug[EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses. OTOH it's not fun to discover that someone spammed existingbug[EMAIL PROTECTED] (those escape me since I'm not watching the appropriate mailing list). For the record, right now I'm the primary reason why the spam in the BTS `magically' disappears, once it's reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) I've seen one in lyx-cjk bugs. It's cosmetically annoying. I really would love to remove it but there would be quite a lot of trouble (and fear that legitimate info could be lost). regards, junichi -- University: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Netfort: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dancer, a.k.a. Junichi Uekawa http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer Dept. of Knowledge Engineering and Computer Science, Doshisha University. ... Long Live Free Software, LIBERTAS OMNI VINCIT.
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
Dariush Pietrzak wrote: It's no use if I got hmm say Apache::DBI module, but perl5.6 can't find it because it's in 5.005 tree, and DBD::Pg hidden in 5.005 tree, that cannot be used by 5.6 due to some binary incompatibilities. Um, afaik perl 5.6 is fully binary compatable, and it certianly looks at the entire 5.005 tree. -- see shy jo
Re: List of packages that could be dropped
In Tue, 26 Dec 2000 15:22:21 +0100 Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit : |silo (195 days old) Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache search silo. Wasn't this the only method a linux on sparc would boot up? It's rather an important package IMO, should not be removed from the distribution unless an alternative is found... regards, junichi -- University: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Netfort: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dancer, a.k.a. Junichi Uekawa http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer Dept. of Knowledge Engineering and Computer Science, Doshisha University. ... Long Live Free Software, LIBERTAS OMNI VINCIT.
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:12:19PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote: Or did I got completely confused and misunderstood the case? First we need to solve the IMHO broken Alternatives Settings of those Perl Packages. They messed up my System more than one. perl-5.6-base is removing all the old perl alternatives and replacing the files of older versions in thepostinst. IMHO a policy violation at least. Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl!
Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote: I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6. Last I heard, they weren't playing well together. Works for me with slash. I only need to fix the Perl alternatives. Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl!
Grub question/problem
A while ago I tested grub but decided against it since I needed a bios mapping to get M$ software running and that didn't work with grub but with lilo. Now I got myself some new hardware so I could make a complete machine running my second disk and no need anymore to switch drives. I copied the latest grub files to /boot/grub reinstalled and rebooted. but grub won't boot my machine. All I get is the message Loading stage1.5 and then the machine stands still. No error message whatsoever. Using lilo or a boot floppy as works well. I couldn't find this behaviour in grubs docs either so I wonder if this is a bug or am I doing something wrong here. I guess its the latter but the other time I tried I did the same and it worked. Any help sppreciated. Michael P.S.: Although it's a bit late I wish all of you a nice christmas! :-) -- Michael Meskes Michael@Fam-Meskes.De Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!
Debian bind chroot option?
Are there any thoughts to a chroot install option for bind?? Its not that hard to setup, but I wonder how it would fit into the debian policy. Nicholas
Re: Grub question/problem
I copied the latest grub files to /boot/grub reinstalled and rebooted. but grub won't boot my machine. All I get is the message Loading stage1.5 and then the machine stands still. No error message whatsoever. Using lilo or a boot floppy as works well. Hm, have you tried running grub-install --recheck and then reinstalling grub? Alternatively, you could just edit /boot/grub/device.map. I don't know if this helps, but it has worked for me. Any help sppreciated. HTH. -- Andreas Fuchs, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], antifuchs Hail RMS! Hail Cthulhu! Hail Eris! All hail Discordia!
dueling banjos
could you please mail me sheet music for dueling banjos
Re: gtk-doc vs glib1.2-dev info file conflict
Svante == Svante Signell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Svante When upgrading libgtk-doc glib.info.gz conflicts with the
Svante same file from libglib1.2-dev. Which package is to remove
Svante the info file?
That's weird. From the control file:
Package: libglib1.2-dev
Architecture: any
Section: devel
Depends: libglib1.2 (= ${Source-Version})
Suggests: libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-doc
Conflicts: libglib-dev, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.7-dev, libglib1.1.8-dev,
libglib1.1.9-dev, libglib1.1.10-dev, libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev,
libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev
Provides: libglib-dev, libglib1.1-dev
Replaces: libgtk-doc, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.6-dev, libglib1.1.9-dev,
libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev, libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev
It definitely Replaces: libgtk-doc. Which version are you installing?
Ben
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Re: dueling banjos
Kim == Kim Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kim could you please mail me sheet music for dueling banjos This is about the third or fourth time we've gotten this request. Does anyone know why? :) (Here's an earlier one I found.) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:06:26 +0100 From: Martin Eldridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: dueling banjos- sheet music Could you please send me the sheet music for Dueling Banjos, Regards Martin Ben -- Brought to you by the letters L and E and the number 0. Porcoga daisuki! Debian GNU/Linux maintainer of Gimp and GTK+ -- http://www.debian.org/
Re: dueling banjos
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Kim Richards wrote: could you please mail me sheet music for dueling banjos me too. hmm... what next, messages about natalie portman's naked petrified hot grits?
wit goes here (was: Re: dueling banjos)
Today, Kim Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could you please mail me sheet music for dueling banjos And before you post a witty comment, please search through the list archives to make sure you don't duplicate effort. Let the jokes begin! -- Andreas Fuchs, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], antifuchs Hail RMS! Hail Cthulhu! Hail Eris! All hail Discordia!
Re: dueling banjos
At 01:18 PM 12-26-2000 -0800, Ben Gertzfield wrote: Kim == Kim Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kim could you please mail me sheet music for dueling banjos This is about the third or fourth time we've gotten this request. Does anyone know why? :) (Here's an earlier one I found.) I just did a Google search on duelling banjos debian and came up with nothing -- just two hits to our archives from the dualling banjos thread that happened one of the previous times we got this strange request.
possible problem with ftp archive
Hi all, I've noticed something that seems odd to me. On ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source theres a bunch of files (.dsc .diff .orig etc) appearing in this directory. Is this the correct behaviour? Is this related to the switch to package pools? I'm curious because the same thing isn't happening for the various binary-* directories and I've seen no explanation for it anywhere. thanks johno -- How many times do users of Windows need to be kicked in the head? It's as if we have a community of people who, upon discovery of 'kick me' signs attached to their backs, do nothing -- and then complain when they eventually do get kicked. -- Evan Leibovitch writing about the ILOVEYOU virus.
Re: dueling banjos
DuEling BANjos, I'd presume. Probably some search engine specializing in sound-alikes for lousy spellers... On 26 Dec 2000, Ben Gertzfield wrote: Kim == Kim Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kim could you please mail me sheet music for dueling banjos This is about the third or fourth time we've gotten this request. Does anyone know why? :) (Here's an earlier one I found.) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:06:26 +0100 From: Martin Eldridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: dueling banjos- sheet music Could you please send me the sheet music for Dueling Banjos, Regards Martin Ben -- Pardon me, but you have obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a damn. email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dueling banjos
from the secret journal of Buddha Buck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): At 01:18 PM 12-26-2000 -0800, Ben Gertzfield wrote: Kim == Kim Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kim could you please mail me sheet music for dueling banjos This is about the third or fourth time we've gotten this request. Does anyone know why? :) (Here's an earlier one I found.) I just did a Google search on duelling banjos debian and came up with nothing -- just two hits to our archives from the dualling banjos thread that happened one of the previous times we got this strange request. has anyone tried asking the posters? -- Jacob Kuntz underworld.net/~jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strategery -- George W. Bush Lockbox -- Al Gore
Re: Need to clone machines efficiently - help?
Peter Eckersley wrote: On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 12:15:50AM -0800, Erik Winn wrote: Here is the first obstacle - not really a big one, but I spent all day digging around and couldn't really find any tools for this one: we want to be able to clone the machines easily over the local net. Mandrake has a tricky boot floppy that asks only for the eth0 config and then runs a bunch of perl to do the rest of the install non-interactively. I haven't started reading the scripts yet (that's plan B), instead I was hoping that someone had come up with something similar for debian. We are looking at hundreds of boxes already and its really just begun. This was extremely difficult for us at first, simply because the hardware we got was so variable that no standard install was really possible. There was one small shipment of machines with identical disks which we cloned using dd :). Things have got much better lately, since we started receiving corporate donations of largeish groups of modern PCs with similar hardware. The way we've ended up doing it is this: * A debian mirror server * Customised task packages So we start a normal debian install, but then pick task-computerbank-whatever and it's done. I've made the current version of our task packages apt-get'able if you want to have a look: deb http://thingy.apana.org.au/computerbank/debian cbv/ deb-src http://thingy.apana.org.au/computerbank/debian cbv/ They are mainly proof-of-concept at the moment and need considerable development, but they are already making life much easer for us. A custom task package might play really well with an automated installer, if your hardware is sufficiently uniform to support one. As someone else pointed out there's the FAI project at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ We still have to evaluate it properly but looks like it could be a very useful package for us. Frank
Re: How to update packages?
Hi Olaf! You wrote: I have made a couple of packages for potato and would like to update them to the latest upstream-version? What is the easiest way to update the source-package? Use uupdate. This is descriped in the new-maintainers guide i think. BTW: this is a question for debian-mentors. -- Kind regards, +---+ | Bas Zoetekouw | Si l'on sait exactement ce | || que l'on va faire, a quoi| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | bon le faire?| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pablo Picasso | +---+
Re: possible problem with ftp archive
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:41:02PM +, John O Sullivan wrote: Hi all, I've noticed something that seems odd to me. On ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source theres a bunch of files (.dsc .diff .orig etc) appearing in this directory. Is this the correct behaviour? Is this related to the switch to package pools? I'm curious because the same thing isn't happening for the various binary-* directories and I've seen no explanation for it anywhere. This is what you should expect to find in a Debian source directory. These files are used to build packages. See 'man dpkg-source'.
Re: How to update packages?
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Hi Olaf! You wrote: I have made a couple of packages for potato and would like to update them to the latest upstream-version? What is the easiest way to update the source-package? Use uupdate. This is descriped in the new-maintainers guide i think. I'ld propose using cvs. Manoj and Joey wrote a nice HOWTO a few years back: URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/cvs_packages A nice and comprehensive guide to CVS is the cvsbook. Debian package cvsbook by JoeyH. HTH BTW: this is a question for debian-mentors. X-post fup yours, peter -- PGP signed and encrypted messages preferred. http://www.palfrader.org/ pgpuSy33XkSvr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X 4 and app-defaults
Hi, Remco van de Meent wrote: Many packages compiled against X3 seem to include this directory in their package. Yes. They need to move their app-defaults files. What should I do? File bugs against packages that use /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults. Whee, (#bugs++)^2.. it seems that these 108 packages have such a directory: It seems like noone ever sent any bug rapport about this, right? I'm maintaining xfaces and was traking down some cryptic buggrepport resulted from this problem, and I would sure have been assisted by such an repport. Is anyone working on sending those repports? or shall I do it myslef? Thomas? Please CC any reply to me. -- Hakan Ardo [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://master.debian.org/~hakan pgpfRuNrSbRCp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BTS spam( Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!)
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:30:47AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: For the record, right now I'm the primary reason why the spam in the BTS `magically' disappears, once it's reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) I've seen one in lyx-cjk bugs. It's cosmetically annoying. I really would love to remove it but there would be quite a lot of trouble (and fear that legitimate info could be lost). Tell me the bug number and I'll clean it out. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification
Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 08:41:43PM +, Mark Seaborn wrote: Dwayne C . Litzenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? I want a system where I can install multiple versions of a library (or any package really) and say which version I want each program on the system to use, possibly on a per-user basis. The present system is a disaster waiting to happen: If I install a package from unstable, it often wants to replace my version of libc from stable with one from unstable. If this new libc is broken it could bring down the whole system, when what I really want to happen is for the new package to use the unstable libc and everything else carry on using the stable libc. this is the risk you take when you use unstable. if that risk is too great for you, then stick to the stable release. it's a small - tiny, even - risk, but it's there. deal with it. the amount of effort and bloat required to implement this idea for the handful of people who would find any use at all for it just isn't worth it. it's a gross violation of the KISS principle and would greatly increase the complexity of systems administration. when i upgrade a package, i want it to replace the previous version - i don't want to keep the last n versions around just on the off-chance i might have some use for them (e.g. the last 10 versions of libc6 or the last 10 versions of xbooks would waste an enormous amount of disk space). if i really need more than one version of a library installed, i can compile it in /usr/local and set LD_PRELOAD appropriately. craig -- craig sanders
ITP: antlr -- a compiler-compiler (and more) for Java
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist ANTLR can be download from www.antlr.org, you need to enter in some details to download the tarball. ANTLR is: ANTLR, ANother Tool for Language Recognition, (formerly PCCTS) is a language tool that provides a framework for constructing recognizers, compilers, and translators from grammatical descriptions containing C++ or Java actions [You can use PCCTS 1.xx to generate C-based parsers]. Computer language translation has become a common task. While compilers and tools for traditional computer languages (such as C or Java) are still being built, their number is dwarfed by the thousands of mini-languages for which recognizers and translators are being developed. Programmers construct translators for database formats, graphical data files (e.g., PostScript, AutoCAD), text processing files (e.g., HTML, SGML). ANTLR is designed to handle all of your translation tasks. ANTLR's license: We reserve no legal rights to the ANTLR--it is fully in the public domain. An individual or company may do whatever they wish with source code distributed with ANTLR or the code generated by ANTLR, including the incorporation of ANTLR, or its output, into commerical software. We encourage users to develop software with ANTLR. However, we do ask that credit is given to us for developing ANTLR. By credit, we mean that if you use ANTLR or incorporate any source code into one of your programs (commercial product, research project, or otherwise) that you acknowledge this fact somewhere in the documentation, research report, etc... If you like ANTLR and have developed a nice tool with the output, please mention that you developed it using ANTLR. In addition, we ask that the headers remain intact in our source code. As long as these guidelines are kept, we expect to continue enhancing this system and expect to make other tools available as they are completed.
Re: dueling banjos
I thought it was some metaphor for SMP DuEling BANjos, I'd presume. Probably some search engine specializing in sound-alikes for lousy spellers... On 26 Dec 2000, Ben Gertzfield wrote: Kim == Kim Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kim could you please mail me sheet music for dueling banjos This is about the third or fourth time we've gotten this request. Does anyone know why? :) (Here's an earlier one I found.) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:06:26 +0100 From: Martin Eldridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: dueling banjos- sheet music Could you please send me the sheet music for Dueling Banjos, Regards Martin Ben John Leuner
Re: List of packages that could be dropped
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: |silo (195 days old) Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache search silo. You can only remove this if you want sparc to be unbootable, which I hope is not your intention. -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
Re: List of packages that could be dropped
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 06:59:16PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: |silo (195 days old) Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache search silo. You can only remove this if you want sparc to be unbootable, which I hope is not your intention. Um, I was going to adopt this until I saw: silo (0.9.9-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream * Took over silo's packaging -- Erick Kinnee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:54:23 -0500 Which I assumed meant Erick had done so? J. -- /-\ | One-seventh of your life is spent |@/ Debian GNU/Linux Developer | on Monday. \- |
Re: possible problem with ftp archive
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 02:52:33PM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:41:02PM +, John O Sullivan wrote: Hi all, I've noticed something that seems odd to me. On ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source theres a bunch of files (.dsc .diff .orig etc) appearing in this directory. Is this the correct behaviour? Is this related to the switch to package pools? I'm curious because the same thing isn't happening for the various binary-* directories and I've seen no explanation for it anywhere. This is what you should expect to find in a Debian source directory. These files are used to build packages. See 'man dpkg-source'. Yes, but what are they doing in the root of main/source, rather than in a subdirectory? ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian has the same, so it's probably not a mirror thing. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg-dev-emacs vs. debian-changelog-mode vs...
On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 11:26:17AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: My sponsor and I are only waiting for some consensus to be reached before he uploads the package. Consider this to be a RFC / CFD / CFV / whatever. If noone reacts, I guess we'll consider that the consensus has been reached on dpkg-dev-emacs. Seems like nobody oposes to your mail. In case you don't upload it now can you please post an url where I can download it? I would like to have that functionality back... :) Thanks for your work Torsten
Re: dueling banjos
Bzzt! mentioned three times by my recollection in the dualling banjos thread. Half the distance to the goal line, loss of down: second down! On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, John Leuner wrote: I thought it was some metaphor for SMP DuEling BANjos, I'd presume. Probably some search engine specializing in sound-alikes for lousy spellers... On 26 Dec 2000, Ben Gertzfield wrote: Kim == Kim Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kim could you please mail me sheet music for dueling banjos This is about the third or fourth time we've gotten this request. Does anyone know why? :) (Here's an earlier one I found.) Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:06:26 +0100 From: Martin Eldridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: dueling banjos- sheet music Could you please send me the sheet music for Dueling Banjos, Regards Martin Ben John Leuner -- Pardon me, but you have obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a damn. email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List of packages that could be dropped
If it's so important, why is it orphaned? I'm thinking that if the SPARC folx can't be bothered to maintain their bootloader, perhaps the port's utilization of resources needs to be called into question... What's the point in Debian proper showing more support for SPARC than the SPARC community shows for Debian? On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Ben Collins wrote: On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote: |silo (195 days old) Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache search silo. You can only remove this if you want sparc to be unbootable, which I hope is not your intention. -- Pardon me, but you have obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a damn. email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X 4 and app-defaults
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 12:00:56AM +0100, Hakan Ardo wrote: Yes. They need to move their app-defaults files. [...] File bugs against packages that use /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults. [...] It seems like noone ever sent any bug rapport about this, right? I'm maintaining xfaces and was traking down some cryptic buggrepport resulted from this problem, and I would sure have been assisted by such an repport. Is anyone working on sending those repports? or shall I do it myslef? Thomas? Oh, they generally get filed, it's just that some package maintainers don't do a damn thing about them[1]. [1] http://bugs.debian.org/groff -- G. Branden Robinson | Experience should teach us to be most on Debian GNU/Linux| our guard to protect liberty when the [EMAIL PROTECTED] | government's purposes are beneficent. http://www.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Louis Brandeis pgpRGej2Wdel3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Another Grub question/problem
How do you start Linux via grub with frame buffer enabled? On a system with a Matrox video card, I have got it going fine (with Matrox FB driver). However, on this computer, where I need to use the VESA driver, nothing I have tried seems to work. At the moment I have: kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17 root=/dev/hda1 video=0x319 still haven't tried 2.2.18. The video= options seems to be completely ignored, and Linux boots up as if it wasn't there. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
booting Linux NFS-Root
Hello, I seem to have problems booting Linux 2.2.18 via NFS root image. **2.2.17 works fine**, but 2.2.18 says No NFS servers available, giving up. It tries to mount root from the floppy disk, and as expected panics when it can't (floppy disk I/O is compiled as a module). It doesn't even try to use the network in anyway. The network card is being properly detected. According to my kernel configuration, the kernel should automatically configure itself via DHCP and BOOTP, but according to tcpdump this is not happening. Any ideas what is going on? Some other useless information: I boot via a rom-floppy image created by the makerom (netboot package). This downloads the kernal image via tftp. The kernel has a wrapper around it created by mknbi-linux (same package). I believe all of this is working fine. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ITP: Jakarta Regexp
Package: wnpp Serverity: ITP Jakarta Regexp is one of regular expression library for Java. It's simpler than Jakarta ORO. URL: http://jakarta.apache.org/regexp/ LICENSE: Apache Software License 1.1(BSD style) --- Takashi Okamoto
Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?
Dwayne C . Litzenberger wrote: I'm starting work on a new linux package manager. The idea is to be able to replace rpm, dpkg, apt, dselect (backend) with one,written mostly from scratch and designed to be as simple (code, not features) and clean as possible. For now, the work will be strictly academic, but if it works out, it may evolve into future standard package manager. I'm only familiar with dselect so I guess the new apt stuff might support some of this, but I haven't heard about any of it, so I'll include it here. Firstly, pipeline installation would be very useful. This means: - you install a package as soon as it downloads, while downloading another package - you continue to download and install while a debconf screen is waiting for the user - if my apt download was terminated halfway through and I have no internet time left, I would still get to install my fully downloaded packages without messing around with dpkg and trying to work out the dependencies manually This should make installation faster and better. Secondly, the ability to specify higher priorites for certain packages you really want to download, which will download before the lower priorities. Often I want to promote certain packages, because they're new or have important bugfixes or new features I want to see ASAP. -- Matthew Tuck: Software Developer All-Round Nice Guy My experience is that in general, if there's jobs programming in it, it's not worth programming in. Ultra Programming Language Project: http://www.box.net.au/~matty/ultra/
Re: Debian bind chroot option?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicholas Lee) writes: Are there any thoughts to a chroot install option for bind?? Its not that hard to setup, but I wonder how it would fit into the debian policy. I've been thinking about it after 9.1.0 releases, and after I add debconf support. I don't run chroot'ed, and I'm not sure how best to set it up despite having given people pointers numerous times... Bdale
Re: List of packages needing a new maintainer
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:50:58PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: RFA: gdict -- small GTK app to retrieve definitions from MIT's dictionary server Ummm... it *seems* like gdict has been swallowed by gnome-utils. If that weren't the case, I would have volunteered. -- | |= -+- |= | | |- | |- |\ Peter Eckersley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/~pde for techno-leftie inspiration, take a look at http://www.computerbank.org.au/ pgpUW4UzSBT45.pgp Description: PGP signature
