Uploaded deborphan 0.1.17-2 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:55:24 +0100
Source: deborphan
Binary: deborphan
Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.1.17-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 deborphan  - Find orphaned libraries.
Closes: 80517
Changes: 
 deborphan (0.1.17-2) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Now really removed dpkghold.8 and dkpgunhold.8. Binaries never
 where in the deb (closes: #80517).
Files: 
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Uploaded jfbterm 0.3.10-3 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Source: jfbterm
Binary: jfbterm
Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.3.10-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Hatta Shuzo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 jfbterm- Japanized framebuffer terminal with Multilingual Enhancement.
Changes: 
 jfbterm (0.3.10-3) unstable; urgency=low
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   * applied mmap patch by AMANO Kazuhiro.
   * applied termial size patch by AMANO Kazuhiro.
   * applied esc sequence patch by Hiroshi Kawashima.
Files: 
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Uploaded fvwm 2.2.4-4 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 22:39:03 +0300
Source: fvwm
Binary: fvwm fvwm-common
Architecture: sparc
Version: 2.2.4-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Alexander Kotelnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 fvwm   - F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.xx.
 fvwm-common - Files shared between the fvwm, fvwm1 and fvwm95 packages
Closes: 79162
Changes: 
 fvwm (2.2.4-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * menu-method correction from Yann Dirson applied (closes: #79162)
Files: 
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Uploaded grafix 1.6-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 02:58:39 +0100
Source: grafix
Binary: grafix1 grafix-dev
Architecture: sparc
Version: 1.6-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 grafix-dev - Development library and header files for grafix
 grafix1- scientific visualization library
Closes: 44255 50097 60796 62013 72221 74860
Changes: 
 grafix (1.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Maintainer set to Debian QA Group.
   * The QA Group acknowledges the previous NMU (Closes: #50097).  Thanks!
   * New upstream release.  The upstream maintainer decided to go with
 the LGPL without any further restrictions (Closes: #74860).  Also,
 various compilation problems are solved (Closes: #72221).
   * Package is indeed not Debian native (Closes: #44255).
   * Added Build-Depends line.
   * All documentation is under /usr/share/doc now (Closes: #60796).
   * Updated Standards-Version.
   * Permissions of examples directory are fixed (Closes: #62013).
   * Improved debian/copyright.
   * Removed the emacs config directives from debian/changelog.
   * Made the package a proper library (i.e. created a -dev package).
Files: 
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Uploaded gdm 2.0-0.beta4.15 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 21:43:55 -0800
Source: gdm
Binary: gdm
Architecture: sparc
Version: 2.0-0.beta4.15
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Ryan Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gdm- GNOME Display Manager
Closes: 55712 75091 75094 76148 77163 80408
Changes: 
 gdm (2.0-0.beta4.15) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Added xutils dependancy (closes: #76148)
   * Added patch to remove locale menu, allowing dependancy on locales to
 be lowered to suggests (closes: #80408)
   * Apparently X has some issues with all the clients being killed in a row,
 and doesn't decide to exit.  XDM kills the server instead of the nice
 method, so now we do that, too. (closes: #77163)
   * Remove non-sensical code that broke %d (closes: #75094)
   * Add documentation on the face browser (closes: #75091)
   * It seems updating the cookies already happens, so now the hostname is
 reread each time the cookies regenerate (closes: #55712)
   * Remove inappropriate Xsession session.
   * Fix a syslog() format.
Files: 
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Uploaded libiconv-ruby 0.4.3-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:18:14 +0900
Source: libiconv-ruby
Binary: libiconv-ruby
Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.4.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: akira yamada [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libiconv-ruby - A Wrapper class of iconv for the Ruby
Changes: 
 libiconv-ruby (0.4.3-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Initial Release.
Files: 
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Uploaded xbill 2.0-11 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:38:13 +
Source: xbill
Binary: xbill
Architecture: sparc
Version: 2.0-11
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 xbill  - Get rid of those Wingdows Viruses!
Closes: 76870
Changes: 
 xbill (2.0-11) unstable frozen; urgency=low
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   * patch from Kevin Ryde so that bg colours can be chosen (closes: #76870)
Files: 
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Uploaded tcp-wrappers 7.6-7 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 15:22:32 +1000
Source: tcp-wrappers
Binary: libwrap0 libwrap0-dev tcpd
Architecture: sparc
Version: 7.6-7
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libwrap0   - Wietse Venema's TCP wrappers library
 libwrap0-dev - Wietse Venema's TCP wrappers library, development files
 tcpd   - Wietse Venema's TCP wrapper utilities
Closes: 51210 63526 65543 75309 75654 75656
Changes: 
 tcp-wrappers (7.6-7) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fix here document in tcpd postinst (Closes: Bug#75309)
   * Fix apostrophes in tcpd(8), hosts_access(5) and hosts_options(5)
 manpages (Closes: Bug#75654, Bug#75656)
   * libwrap0 has a weak allow_severity symbol since 7.6-4 (Closes: Bug#51210)
   * Change tcpd.h to tcpd.h in hosts_access(3) manpage. (Closes: Bug#63526)
   * tcpd.h seems to be correct (Closes: Bug#65543)
Files: 
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Uploaded koules 1.4-6 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:14:18 -0800
Source: koules
Binary: koules
Architecture: sparc
Version: 1.4-6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Aaron Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 koules - Space action game for X11.
Changes: 
 koules (1.4-6) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Add 'koules' as a symlink to xkoules. I imagine it's good practice to have 
an executable with the same name as the package.
   * Package koules.tcl as 'startkoules'. So, reccomend tcl8.3 and tk8.3 :(.
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Uploaded bluefish 0.6-0.cvs20001121.1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:36:57 +0100
Source: bluefish
Binary: bluefish
Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.6-0.cvs20001121.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Davide Puricelli (evo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 bluefish   - A Gtk+ HTML editor
Closes: 77879
Changes: 
 bluefish (0.6-0.cvs20001121.1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fixed debian/rules; closes: #77879
Files: 
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Uploaded kdetoys 2.1-20001221-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 02:44:00 -0700
Source: kdetoys
Binary: eyesapplet kscore kodo kworldwatch kteatime amor kmoon ktux
Architecture: sparc
Version: 4:2.1-20001221-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 amor   - Amusing Misuse Of Resources
 eyesapplet - Eyes Applet for KDE
 kmoon  - displays various phases of the moon
 kodo   - mouse odometer which shows how far your mouse has traveled
 kscore - Sports Ticker for KDE
 kteatime   - A tea cooker timer
 ktux   - Tux screensaver for KDE
 kworldwatch - displays where in the world it is light and dark
Changes: 
 kdetoys (4:2.1-20001221-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream cvs version
   * Adding in missing conflicts for kdetoys
Files: 
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Uploaded uri 2.11-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 21:53:48 +0100
Source: uri
Binary: liburi-dev liburi2
Architecture: sparc
Version: 2.11-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Igor Genibel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 liburi-dev - development envirnoment for uri library
 liburi2- library to simply manipulate uri
Changes: 
 uri (2.11-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Initial Release.
Files: 
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Uploaded cfe 0.9-4 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:15:34 +0100
Source: cfe
Binary: cfe
Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.9-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Lenart Janos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 cfe- Console Font Editor
Changes: 
 cfe (0.9-4) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Typo fixed in README.Debian.
Files: 
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Uploaded lpe 1.2.5-2 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 15:11:38 +0100
Source: lpe
Binary: lpe
Architecture: sparc
Version: 1.2.5-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 lpe- Lightweight Programmer's Editor
Closes: 79786
Changes: 
 lpe (1.2.5-2) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Fixed segfault when exiting from the help screen.
   (Closes: Bug#79786)
Files: 
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Uploaded gkrellm-mailwatch 0.4-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:05:39 +0100
Source: gkrellm-mailwatch
Binary: gkrellm-mailwatch
Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.4-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Sjoerd Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gkrellm-mailwatch - GKrellM plugin to watch mailboxes in multiple panels
Closes: 78648
Changes: 
 gkrellm-mailwatch (0.4-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Initial Release. (closes: Bug#78648)
   * Sponsored by An Thi-Nguyen Le [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files: 
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Uploaded libsnmp-perl 3.1.0-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:18:28 +0100
Source: libsnmp-perl
Binary: libsnmp-perl
Architecture: sparc
Version: 3.1.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Martin Waitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libsnmp-perl - Script SNMP connections
Changes: 
 libsnmp-perl (3.1.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Initial Release.
Files: 
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Uploaded iputils 20001110-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 15:03:20 +1000
Source: iputils
Binary: iputils-tracepath iputils-ping
Architecture: sparc
Version: 20001110-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 iputils-ping - The ping utility from iputils
 iputils-tracepath - The tracepath utility from iputils
Closes: 65597 68973 69472 80250 80251
Changes: 
 iputils (20001110-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version. (Closes: Bug#80250, Bug#80251)
   * Removed most of the Debian patches: too much has changed upstream to
 reasonably forward port them. Maxwait argument thus
 disappeared. (Closes: Bug#65597)
   * Shouldn't have any security problems, theoretically. (Closes: Bug#69472)
   * Descriptions have been updated a while ago. (Closes: Bug#68973)
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   * Orphaned, maintainer set to debian-qa.
Files: 
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Uploaded xmcd 2.6-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Source: xmcd
Binary: cddb xmcd
Architecture: sparc
Version: 2.6-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 cddb   - CD DataBase support tools
 xmcd   - X11 based CD player
Closes: 61945 69518 75308 78444 79443 79761
Changes: 
 xmcd (2.6-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * new upstream
   * copyright and changelog are in the cddb dependency (closes: #79443)
   * stop xmcd complaining when it can't setuid - Daniel decided that
 we should just add users to audio/cdrom group.  Makes good sense.
 (closes: #79761, #78444).
   * ide-scsi only works if root or if using Linux ioctl rather than
 SCSI pass-through. So default to Linux ioctl and warn if SCSI is picked.
   * setuid was dropped in NMU (closes: #69518)
   * use FreeDB in preference to CDDB.com (closes: #75308)
   * fix minor typo in postinst
   * exit if XMCD_LIBDIR is set to avoid lots of problems.
 Allow the users to override this behaviour.
 Corrected manpage's view on this (thanks to Bob Billson)
   * depend on a recent cddb package too since file locations etc have changed.
   * add subdirectories to /var/lib/cddb and /var/lib/xmcd/discog in the
 package rather than waiting for people to run xmcdconfig (closes: #61945)
   * add /usr/doc/xmcd - /usr/share/doc/xmcd link if required
Files: 
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Source: zsh-beta
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Architecture: sparc
Version: 3.1.9.dev8.0sf20001223-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 zsh-beta   - A shell with lots of features.
Changes: 
 zsh-beta (3.1.9.dev8.0sf20001223-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * New upstream snapshot.
Files: 
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Uploaded gkrellm-volume 0.8-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:25:18 +0100
Source: gkrellm-volume
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Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.8-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Sjoerd Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gkrellm-volume - A mixer plugin for GKrellM
Closes: 78647
Changes: 
 gkrellm-volume (0.8-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Initial Release. (closes: Bug#78647)
   * Sponsored by  An Thi-Nguyen Le [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files: 
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Source: gaim
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Architecture: sparc
Version: 1:0.11.0pre4-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Robert S. Edmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gaim   - GTK clone of AOL Instant Messenger
 gaim-gnome - GNOME clone of AOL Instant Messenger
Changes: 
 gaim (1:0.11.0pre4-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * New upstream release.
Files: 
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Uploaded xoids 1.5-12 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:21:17 +
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 xoids  - Asteroids game with powerups and color graphics.
Closes: 75815
Changes: 
 xoids (1.5-12) frozen unstable; urgency=low
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   * add menu pixmap from Robert Cleaver (closes: #75815)
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Uploaded vat 4.0b2-10 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Alex Romosan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 vat- LBNL audio conferencing tool over the internet.
Changes: 
 vat (4.0b2-10) unstable; urgency=low
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   * update config.sub and config.guess to the latest.
Files: 
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Uploaded libhtml-parser-perl 3.15-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libhtml-parser-perl - A collection of modules that parse HTML text documents.
Changes: 
 libhtml-parser-perl (3.15-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * New upstream release
Files: 
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Uploaded liblocale-gettext-perl 1.01-9 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 liblocale-gettext-perl - Using libc functions for internationalization in Perl
Changes: 
 liblocale-gettext-perl (1.01-9) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Compiled with perl-5.6. Conforms to policy 3.2.1.
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Uploaded sndconfig 0.57-2 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 sndconfig  - easy soundcard configuration
Changes: 
 sndconfig (0.57-2) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Changed the maintainer address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Files: 
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Uploaded libax25 0.0.7-2 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Craig Small [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libax25- ax25 libraries for hamradio applications
 libax25-dev - ax25 library development files
Changes: 
 libax25 (0.0.7-2) unstable; urgency=low
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   * New standards version
Files: 
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Uploaded stereograph 0.30a-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 stereograph - stereogram generator
Closes: 72295
Changes: 
 stereograph (0.30a-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * New upstream relase.
   * Removed an empty line from the manpage (closes: #72295).
Files: 
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Uploaded xrn 9.02-2 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Alex Romosan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 xrn- X-based NNTP news reader.
Changes: 
 xrn (9.02-2) unstable; urgency=low
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Files: 
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Uploaded xosd 0.4.0-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.4.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Martijn van de Streek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libxosd- X On-Screen Display library - runtime
 libxosd-dev - X On-Screen Display library - development
 xmms-osd-plugin - XMMS plugin using xosd
Changes: 
 xosd (0.4.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version:
 - FontSet patch
 - Better error reporting if the SHAPE is missing
 - New configuration dialog
Files: 
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Uploaded wdm 1.20-6 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:20:12 +0100
Source: wdm
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Architecture: sparc
Version: 1.20-6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 wdm- WINGs Display Manager, an xdm replacement with a WindowMaker look
Closes: 79450
Changes: 
 wdm (1.20-6) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * The /etc/X11/wdm/Xsession wrapper script now calls the original X
 /etx/X11/Xsession script through an exec. (closes: #79450)
   * Updated standard-version to 3.2.1
   * Added a warning in wdm-config about the list of windowmanager being
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Uploaded dclock 2.1.1-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 dclock - Digital clock for X Windows with flexible display.
Closes: 79159
Changes: 
 dclock (2.1.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * new upstream (thanks to Harald Dunkel)
 NB: The version number _hadn't_ changed upstream
   * use /usr/share/sounds like other programs (closes: #79159)
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Uploaded vm 6.89-1 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:36:06 -0600
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Architecture: sparc
Version: 6.89-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 mime-codecs - Fast Quoted-Printable and BASE64 MIME transport codecs
Changes: 
 vm (6.89-1) unstable; urgency=low
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   * Mostly bug fixes.
 * vm-yank-message: MIME decode the headers of the yanked message
   if vm-display-using-mime is non-nil.
 * vm-forward-message: if MIME forwarding, switch the buffer
   containing the attached message to be multibyte to avoid the
   appearance of our old friend \201 when the buffer contents are
   inserted into the composition buffer.  (FSF Emacs 20 only).
 * vm-do-folders-summary: count messages in folders that lack
   entries in the folders summary database using vm-grep-program.
 * vm-do-folders-summary: ignore index files in the folder directories.
 * vm-update-folders-summary-highlight: use intern-soft instead of
   intern, since the symbol may not be present in the obarray.
 * vm-mark-for-folders-summary-update: check for killed summary
   before selecting folders summary buffer.
 * vm-emit-eom-blurb: bind vm-summary-uninteresting-senders-arrow
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 * Makefile: Start using $(prefix) to be more GNUish.  Try to
   create the installation directories if they don't exist.
 * vm-modify-folder-totals: wrong cells in the list were being
   updated; fixed.
 * vm-mime-run-display-function-at-point: return result of calling
   the display function because callers expect it.  This wasn't
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Uploaded catdoc 0.91.4-2 (sparc) to ftp-master

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Description: 
 catdoc - MS-Word to TeX or plain text converter
Closes: 76460 78020 80128
Changes: 
 catdoc (0.91.4-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Maintainer changed. (Closes: Bug#80128)
   * Fixed various bugs in msxlsview.sh (Closes: Bug#76460)
   * Fixed various bugs in xls2csv (Closes: Bug#78020)
   * catdoc.1 isn't installed int /usr/man now.
Files: 
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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 18:49:22 +0100
Source: python
Binary: python-dev python-regrtest python-gdbm python-tk python-mpz 
python-examples python-elisp python-zlib idle python-base
Architecture: sparc
Version: 1.5.2-11
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Gregor Hoffleit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 python-base - An interactive object-oriented scripting language.
 python-dev - Header files and a static library for Python.
 python-gdbm - GNU dbm database support for Python.
 python-mpz - Multiple-precision arithmetic support for Python.
 python-tk  - Writing Tk applications with Python (Tkinter).
 python-zlib - A compression module for Python using zlib.
Closes: 45929
Changes: 
 python (1.5.2-11) unstable; urgency=high
 .
   * Long outstanding bugfix to the signal handling code, backported from
 2.0 CVS tree (closes: #45929). ^C should now work again as expected.
   * Security fix for tempfile.py, backported from CVS tree. tempfile was
 vulnerable to a symlink attack (fixes: #78577).
   * urllib.py now gives a meaningful error message if the proxy variable
 can not be parsed (fixes: #42318).
   * rfc822.py: __getitem__ now returns an element of addresslist
 (fixes: #50197).
   * rfc822.py: a small fix to the parser: Whitespace behind the colons is
 not mandatory (fixes: #72354).
   * Fix includes in mpzmodule in order to compile with libgmp2-dev.
   * debian/control: python-base replaces python-curses
   * debian/rules: fix dh_installdocs call not to add excess code to
 postinsts (fixes: #68677).
Files: 
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Architecture: sparc
Version: 0.10-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Adrian Bridgett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 cftp   - A full-screen ftp client.
Closes: 75799
Changes: 
 cftp (0.10-2) frozen unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * install info pages properly (closes: #75799)
Files: 
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:19:40 +0100
Source: xpenguins
Binary: xpenguins
Architecture: sparc
Version: 1.2-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian/SPARC Build Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 xpenguins  - little penguins walk on your windows
Closes: 80430
Changes: 
 xpenguins (1.2-2) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fixed the short description (closes: #80430)
Files: 
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Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user

2000-12-27 Thread Peter Eckersley
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:38:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
 Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  
  On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:43:53AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
   I like using groups to give different sets of rights and I'm
   annoyed by Debian giving every user his own group. Is that
   reall necessary?
  
  No, but it's a good idea. It makes it much easier to work in
  directories shared with other users (but not all users), because
  you don't have to keep changing your umask all the time, or
  even worse, fixing file permissions because you (or somebody
  else) forgot to change their umask.
  
 
 I always thought it was a paranoid kind of security feature
 in Debian. I might be wrong of course.
 
 How does giving every user his own group makes it easier for
 him to share files without system administrator's intervention?
 I couldn't guite get it, sorry I just woke up but I simply
 don't understand it. A small example?
 

Other people have provided most of the really useful reasons, but
another one, which is denies access rather than providing it:

If my I want a file to be readable by everybody *except* user fred, I
can set permissions:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l plot-against-fred
-rwr--1 pde  fred  1 Dec 27 17:12 plot-against-fred

Of course, I need root access to do it :(

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-27 Thread Joey Hess
Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
 First we need to solve the IMHO broken Alternatives Settings of those Perl
 Packages. They messed up my System more than one.

See the BTS, there are patches (#80143). Someone should NMU it, it's absurd
it's been left so broken for so long.

 perl-5.6-base is removing
 all the old perl alternatives and replacing the files of older versions in
 thepostinst. IMHO a policy violation at least.

No it's not, the alternatives system was broken, the maintainer of perl
is free to realize this and correct it. 


Well I haven't seen any informed or valid objections to me filing the
80-some bugs; I guess it'll do it tomorrow.

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-27 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:26:07PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote:
 On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm not sure that solves all the problems - I'd like apache-perl
  recompiled against perl5.6, and so the rest of modules.
 
 I would do, but I'm not at all sure if mod_perl works with Perl 5.6.
 Last I heard, they weren't playing well together.

I'm just a lazy bum.  It works fine; I got the main modperl packages
out and got derailed by the perl 5.6 bug that was breaking
apacheconfig.  I'll try to do apache-perl when I get back to school in
January (two weeks).

Dan

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Re: dueling banjos

2000-12-27 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 04:31:48PM -0500, Buddha Buck wrote:
 I just did a Google search on duelling banjos debian and came up with 
 nothing -- just two hits to our archives from the dualling banjos thread 
 that happened one of the previous times we got this strange request.

I don't know where in Debian to find dueling banjos, but I know where to
find dueling licenses.

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Re: perl 5.00{5,4} dependancies

2000-12-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 12:24:34AM -0800, Joey Hess écrivait:
 liblocale-gettext-perl
 libmldbm-perl
 dpkg-ftp

Those 3 are mine. I've just done it. No need to file a bug.

 perl-5.005-suid

This one should not be updated :)

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Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user

2000-12-27 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Peter Eckersley wrote:
 
 
 If my I want a file to be readable by everybody *except* user fred, I
 can set permissions:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l plot-against-fred
 -rwr--1 pde  fred  1 Dec 27 17:12 plot-against-fred
 
 Of course, I need root access to do it :(
 ^^^

That's what troubles me.


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Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-27 Thread Richard Atterer
Just one simple small thing for me, please: An installer that is smart
enough to realize that it is about to overflow the disc, so it deletes
any .deb files that have been downloaded and already installed. (This
bit me once while doing an install over PPP.)

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Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user

2000-12-27 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
 This is a big nuisance. I spent months working on a project with
 a shared directory without individual user groups. Worse yet, you
 can end up with a CVS repository full of files with user-only
 permissions (using a local CVS repositor, rather than remote).
 

Ok. Then what I did was correct. I set up a developers group
and put all devels there, then I changed umask to 002 in /etc/profile.

I guess that's the way it works for multiple CVS users, right?
Since there are per user groups, the umask won't disrupt any other
operation.

Thanks,

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Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user

2000-12-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 12:14:54PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
 Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  This is a big nuisance. I spent months working on a project with
  a shared directory without individual user groups. Worse yet, you
  can end up with a CVS repository full of files with user-only
  permissions (using a local CVS repositor, rather than remote).
 
 Ok. Then what I did was correct. I set up a developers group
 and put all devels there, then I changed umask to 002 in /etc/profile.
 
 I guess that's the way it works for multiple CVS users, right?
 Since there are per user groups, the umask won't disrupt any other
 operation.

That should work fine.


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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-26 Ben Collins wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
  
  |silo (195 days old)
  
  Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's
  currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache
  search silo.

 You can only remove this if you want sparc to be unbootable, which I
 hope is not your intention.

If it's so important why is still marked as orphaned in wnpp? Or has
already some taken over maintainership and just forgotten that there
exists the WNPP?

Ciao
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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-27 Jonathan McDowell wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 06:59:16PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
   
   |silo (195 days old)
   
   Has this package been removed from unstable and if yes, why? It's
   currently still listed in the wnpp but I could find it which apt-cache
   search silo.
  You can only remove this if you want sparc to be unbootable, which I
  hope is not your intention.

 Um, I was going to adopt this until I saw:

 silo (0.9.9-1) unstable; urgency=low

   * New upstream
   * Took over silo's packaging

  -- Erick Kinnee [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon,  4 Sep 2000 10:54:23 -0500

 Which I assumed meant Erick had done so? 

Well, if this is really true, then he should have closed the WNPP bug
against silo a long time ago already. 

Ciao
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Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-27 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 07:28:59 -0500, Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It sounds pretty easy to implement; just stat() and compare the inode number.

That won't catch a file being copied and truncated since the inode
stays the same.

Greetings
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Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-27 Thread Toni Mueller


Hello,

On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 12:10:19AM +0300, Peter Novodvorsky wrote:
 ++ 20/12/00 12:52 -0700 - Bdale Garbee:
  I am no longer interested in maintaining the 'catdoc' package.  However, I
  will continue my current level of inactive ownership of the package until
  such time as someone takes it over.
 I'd like to adopt this package.

just wanted to point to wv which seems to do a much better
job than catdoc, and also operates from a script if desired.
Apparently only the GUI is missing.


Best Regards,
--Toni++




Re: X 4 and app-defaults

2000-12-27 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:50:14PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 Oh, they generally get filed, it's just that some package maintainers don't
 do a damn thing about them[1].

what about localisation of app-default, I see XEarth ships with

# ls /etc/X11/*/app-defaults/XEarth
/etc/X11/ja_JP.eucJP/app-defaults/XEarth
/etc/X11/ko_KR.eucKR/app-defaults/XEarth

I would prefer /etc/X11/app-defaults/locale/Class as man is doing.

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Re: Grub question/problem

2000-12-27 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 10:03:30PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote:
 Hm, have you tried running grub-install --recheck and then

Won't run:

feivel:~# grub-install --recheck
install_device not specified.
Usage: grub-install [OPTION] install_device
Install GRUB on your drive.
 
  -h, --help  print this message and exit
  -v, --version   print the version information and exit
  --root-directory=DIRinstall GRUB images under the directory DIR
  instead of the root directory.
  --grub-shell=FILE   use FILE as the grub shell.
  --force-lba force GRUB to use LBA mode even for a buggy
  BIOS.
  --recheck   probe a device map even if it already exists.
 
INSTALL_DEVICE can be a GRUB device name or a system device filename.
 
Reports bugs to bug-grub@gnu.org.

This surely looks like a bug to me.

 reinstalling grub? Alternatively, you could just edit
 /boot/grub/device.map. I don't know if this helps, but it has worked
 for me.

The problem is my device.map seems to be okay:

(fd0)   /dev/fd0
(hd0)   /dev/hda

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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 07:06:30PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
 
 If it's so important, why is it orphaned?  I'm thinking that if the SPARC
 folx can't be bothered to maintain their bootloader, perhaps the port's
 utilization of resources needs to be called into question...  What's the
 point in Debian proper showing more support for SPARC than the SPARC
 community shows for Debian?
 

What the fuck are you talking about!?! For one the damn thing isn't
changed that often. Upstream isn't making frequent updates, and the
fucking thing works. You need to find your red herrings some place else.

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Re: gtk-doc vs glib1.2-dev info file conflict

2000-12-27 Thread Svante Signell
I have the helix version installed: 
(Also this version should replace libgtk-doc, shouldn't it?)

#dpkg -s libglib1.2-dev
Package: libglib1.2-dev
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: devel
Installed-Size: 367
Maintainer: Helix Code, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source: glib1.2
Version: 1.2.8-helix1
Replaces: libgtk-doc, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.6-dev, libglib1.1.9-dev, 
libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev, libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev
Provides: libglib-dev, libglib1.1-dev
Depends: libglib1.2 (= 1.2.8-helix1)
Suggests: libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-doc
Conflicts: libglib-dev, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.7-dev, libglib1.1.8-dev, 
libglib1.1.9-dev, libglib1.1.10-dev, libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev, 
libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev

Ben Gertzfield writes:
   Svante == Svante Signell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  Svante When upgrading libgtk-doc glib.info.gz conflicts with the
  Svante same file from libglib1.2-dev. Which package is to remove
  Svante the info file?
  
  That's weird. From the control file:
  
  Package: libglib1.2-dev
  Architecture: any
  Section: devel
  Depends: libglib1.2 (= ${Source-Version})
  Suggests: libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-doc
  Conflicts: libglib-dev, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.7-dev, 
  libglib1.1.8-dev, libglib1.1.9-dev, libglib1.1.10-dev, libglib1.1.11-dev, 
  libglib1.1.12-dev, libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev
  Provides: libglib-dev, libglib1.1-dev
  Replaces: libgtk-doc, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.6-dev, libglib1.1.9-dev, 
  libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev, libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev
  
  It definitely Replaces: libgtk-doc.  Which version are you installing?
  
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Re: BTS spam( Re: Boost Windows Reliability!!!!!)

2000-12-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
In Wed, 27 Dec 2000 00:19:19 +0100 Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate 
scripsit :

  I've seen one in lyx-cjk bugs. It's cosmetically annoying.
  I really would love to remove it but there would be quite a lot of
  trouble (and fear that legitimate info could be lost). 
 
 Tell me the bug number and I'll clean it out.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=62770repeatmerged=yes

so it's 62770.


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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
In Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:42:49 +0100 Christian Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum 
veritate scripsit :

  silo (0.9.9-1) unstable; urgency=low
 
* New upstream
* Took over silo's packaging
 
   -- Erick Kinnee [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon,  4 Sep 2000 10:54:23 -0500
 
  Which I assumed meant Erick had done so? 
 
 Well, if this is really true, then he should have closed the WNPP bug
 against silo a long time ago already. 

After a while of running with wnpp in Debian bug system, 
one thing arises is that it's not very convenient to check.

I can check the list of bugs filed against one package, but
that package doesn't include the wnpp bug.
All those bugs are filed against wnpp.

It would be nice if wnpp bugs appear in individual packages' bugs
list too. They do belong there...

regards,
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Re: gtk-doc vs glib1.2-dev info file conflict

2000-12-27 Thread Peter Teichman
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:19:11PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
 I have the helix version installed: 
 (Also this version should replace libgtk-doc, shouldn't it?)

Whenever any helix packages are involved, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the
appropriate place to report problems. Not debian-devel.

 #dpkg -s libglib1.2-dev
 Package: libglib1.2-dev
 Status: install ok installed
 Priority: optional
 Section: devel
 Installed-Size: 367
 Maintainer: Helix Code, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Source: glib1.2
 Version: 1.2.8-helix1
 Replaces: libgtk-doc, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.6-dev, libglib1.1.9-dev, 
 libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev, libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev
 Provides: libglib-dev, libglib1.1-dev
 Depends: libglib1.2 (= 1.2.8-helix1)
 Suggests: libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-doc
 Conflicts: libglib-dev, libglib1.1.5-dev, libglib1.1.7-dev, libglib1.1.8-dev, 
 libglib1.1.9-dev, libglib1.1.10-dev, libglib1.1.11-dev, libglib1.1.12-dev, 
 libglib1.1.13-dev, libglib1.1.16-dev

Yes, this package does Replace: libgtk-doc. The problem is that you
are trying to upgrade libgtk-doc, which doesn't Replace:
libglib1.2-dev.

libgtk-doc is an old package, for gtk+ 1.0. I suspect that you want to
remove that and install libgtk1.2-doc.

Peter




Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-27 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
Hi,

   I am no longer interested in maintaining the 'catdoc' package.  However, I
   will continue my current level of inactive ownership of the package until
   such time as someone takes it over.
  I'd like to adopt this package.

Oops, I already adopted the package on 24th Dec. Sorry, but I did not know
that anybody else was interested in adopting it. It had announced my ITA a
day before.

Cheers,
Guenter

-- 
Linux: Who needs GATES in a world without fences?




RFC: Changing the Packages files

2000-12-27 Thread Otto Wyss
With the introduction of the packages pool, I'm going to propose the
following change to the Packages files:

1. The filename tells what the Packages files contains:
Packages files should be independent of the their location, therefor the
name has to reflect their contents, i.e.
Packages-$DIST-$ARCH
or simply
$TYPE-$DIST-$ARCH
where $TYPE=Main|Contrib|NonUS|Nonfree

2. The location of the Packages file does define the base of the
packages mirror structur:
This means the Filename: attribut starts from the location of the
Packages file, allowing for a much flexibler naming of the structur.

These two changes means the Packages files for all distributions could
be moved inside the pool as well. Also it is possible to have different
kind of mirror structurs (i.e alphabetical versus functional) since the
Packages files could be anywhere. And symlinks from binary-$ARCH to
binary-all weren't nessecary.

O. Wyss




How to get changelog file for a given _binary_ package?

2000-12-27 Thread Marc Haber
Hi,

we use a number of backported potato packages and I am working on a
script that sends me e-mail when a new version of these packages
appears in woody.

I would like to do this by periodically pulling the change logs for
all packages that we have backported from the Debian web page
(http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=$package) and
then comparing the version number with the version number of our back
port.

This doesn't work for multiple binary source packages - for example,
for libdb2-util, the URL given above returns No such changelog file.

Any other ideas how to do this?

Greetings
Marc

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Re: How to get changelog file for a given _binary_ package?

2000-12-27 Thread Brian Almeida
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:17:54PM +, Marc Haber wrote:
 Hi,
 
 we use a number of backported potato packages and I am working on a
 script that sends me e-mail when a new version of these packages
 appears in woody.
 
 I would like to do this by periodically pulling the change logs for
 all packages that we have backported from the Debian web page
 (http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=$package) and
 then comparing the version number with the version number of our back
 port.
 
 This doesn't work for multiple binary source packages - for example,
 for libdb2-util, the URL given above returns No such changelog file.
 
 Any other ideas how to do this?
apt-cache show $package|grep Source
Then use that value in the url (in this case db)

-- 
Brian Almeida  | http://www.debian.org/~bma
Debian Developer   | [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: How to get changelog file for a given _binary_ package?

2000-12-27 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 10:37:17 -0500, Brian Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
apt-cache show $package|grep Source

in a perl script, ugly. But a possible way to do it.

Then use that value in the url (in this case db)

http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=db
No such changelog.

Might this be possible because there is no binary package named db?

Greetings
Marc

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Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-27 Thread The Doctor What
* Dwayne C . Litzenberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001223 22:47]:
 Hello!
 
 I'm starting work on a new linux package manager.  The idea is to be able to
 replace rpm, dpkg, apt, dselect (backend) with one,written mostly from scratch
 and designed to be as simple (code, not features) and clean as possible.  For
 now, the work will be strictly academic, but if it works out, it may evolve
 into future standard package manager.
 
 So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager?

Ideas:

Well, I think a coherit method for managing config files and
configuration of packages.  An easy way to reset a package back to
it's prestine settings.  A tool to show which packages have been
manually configured, configured through a tool, and which one.

Policy management.  Debian currently sidesteps this by stepping as
far away from it as possible, RedHat and TurboLinux force it down
your throat.  A better system, imho, would be to allow it to be
configurable for the PM system.  Example:  Decide that all daemon's
should install 'off' until configured and turned 'on' manually.

Ability to do *ALL* package management with source only (ala BSD)
complete with diffs instead of getting the whole thing again.

The ability to build any version of the binary Package from a
complete source (with history (maybe RCS?)).  Sort of a FAT SOURCE
idea.

FAT binaries.

Easy methods to relocate paths.

Control files that are easy to maintain and version and that can be
kept with the source code, upstream, with little or no problem.

The ability for the package builder to go get resources itself off
the net via URIs.

That's about itoh wait:
GOOD DOCUMENTATION!

Ciao!

-- 
Baldrick, you wouldn't see a subtle plan if it painted itself purple and 
danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing 'Subtle Plans Are Here Again.'
--Edmund Blackadder II

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Re: X 4 and app-defaults

2000-12-27 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi.

In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  on Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:27:43 +0100,
on Re: X 4 and app-defaults,
 Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 what about localisation of app-default, I see XEarth ships with
 
 # ls /etc/X11/*/app-defaults/XEarth
 /etc/X11/ja_JP.eucJP/app-defaults/XEarth
 /etc/X11/ko_KR.eucKR/app-defaults/XEarth
 
 I would prefer /etc/X11/app-defaults/locale/Class as man is doing.

Well, traditional X11 handling requires the location of
  XLIBDIR(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11 for potato)/locale/app-defaults/,
so the new location /etc/X11/locale/app-defaults/ is just following
that traditional way.

And this behavior has already submitted as the patch by M. Ishikawa,
and Branden kindly used it months ago.

I can't get what is the merit of your proposal, but maybe this should
be decided at the upstream level (i.e., xfree86 in this case, or TOG)
I think.

Regards.
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Re: How to get changelog file for a given _binary_ package?

2000-12-27 Thread Rick Younie
Marc Haber wrote:
 Hi,
 
 we use a number of backported potato packages and I am working on a
 script that sends me e-mail when a new version of these packages
 appears in woody.
 
 I would like to do this by periodically pulling the change logs for
 all packages that we have backported from the Debian web page
 (http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=3D$package) and
 then comparing the version number with the version number of our back
 port.
 
 This doesn't work for multiple binary source packages - for example,
 for libdb2-util, the URL given above returns No such changelog file.

Hi,

lynx -dump http://packages.debian.org/libdb2-util
might do what you want.

Or add woody to sources.list and parse the Packages files locally.
I think you'd also need to run the development APT at people.d.o/~jgg
to tag woody so it isn't an install candidate.

Rick
-- 




Re: dpkg-scanpackage is ignoring newwe?

2000-12-27 Thread Martin Schulze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   running dpkg-scanpackage i386 over  Packages
  
   i get (over is size 0)
  
! Package msn-transport (filename i386/msn-transport_1.0-2_i386.deb) is
   repeat;
  ignored that one and using data from i386/msn-transport_1.0-1_i386.deb 
   !
  
   which means dpkg-scanpackage is ignoring the -2 in favor of the -1.. why 
   is
   this so and what can i do? :)
  
  dpkg-scanpackage just chooses the first one it sees.  You can manually move
  the old versions out before hand based on the embedded version numbers,
  but that breaks when you've got epochs.  Have a look at how apt-move handles
  this.
 
 Couldn't it be changed so that the newer one will be taken (by date)
 or the versions are compared? Can't be that hard. Putting both in
 should also not make a problem, since you have the problem of multiple
 versions when using stable and unstable as well, so all relevant
 programms should cope with it.

Since I haven't seen a proper answer yet, I'll jump into this dead discussion
four months later...

Wichert said the current dpkg-dev contains dpkg-scanpackages and 
dpkg-scansources
that behaves properly.  In case you'll have to fix your installed package you'll
find fixes for this at http://www.infodrom.ffis.de/Infodrom/patches/

Regards,

Joey

-- 
Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct,
not tried it.  -- Donald E. Knuth

Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.




Linux Expo in Praha, Budabest, Warsaw Moscow (was: Linux Expo Road Show)

2000-12-27 Thread Martin Schulze
I'd like to send out a reminder.

Peter Novodvorsky wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I want you to know, that Sky Events will hold four conferences and
 exhibition in eastern europe called Linux Expo Road Show. Conferences
 will be held in Praha, Budapest, Warsaw and Moscow, and exhibition --
 only in Moscow. Here is the timetable:
 
 23 April 2001: Praha
 24 April 2001: Budapest
 25 April 2001: Wasraw
 26 April 2001: Moscow
 27 April 2001: Moscow
 28 April 2001: Moscow
 
 Debian will have a booth in exhibition. Also we need to be
 reprepresented on all conferences. We need volunteers! BTW, I hope to
 see some non-russian debian developers on Moscow exhibition, because there are
 only two of us in .ru.

Are there some people, developers and users, who would be willing
to maintain and staff a booth in Praha, Budabest, Warsaw or Moscow?
For the Moscow event there seem to be two people, so it is doable.
However, given the length of the show, some more people even there
would be good.

Regards,

Joey

-- 
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not tried it.  -- Donald E. Knuth

Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists.




Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-27 Thread Sam TH
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 12:25:54PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
 
 
 Hello,
 
 On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 12:10:19AM +0300, Peter Novodvorsky wrote:
  ++ 20/12/00 12:52 -0700 - Bdale Garbee:
   I am no longer interested in maintaining the 'catdoc' package.  However, I
   will continue my current level of inactive ownership of the package until
   such time as someone takes it over.
  I'd like to adopt this package.
 
 just wanted to point to wv which seems to do a much better
 job than catdoc, and also operates from a script if desired.
 Apparently only the GUI is missing.

Actually, wv is a command line only program, although it is now
available as a library as well.  Look for my request-to-adopt soon.

sam th
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Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user

2000-12-27 Thread Stephen Zander
 exa == exa  Eray writes:
exa I use bash. Is this zsh better? :)

Yes.

-- 
Stephen

A duck!




Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 11:26:25AM +, Marc Haber wrote:

 On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 07:28:59 -0500, Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 It sounds pretty easy to implement; just stat() and compare the inode number.
 
 That won't catch a file being copied and truncated since the inode
 stays the same.

If the current inode gets truncated, that would be noticed by the current code.

-- 
 - mdz




Re: booting Linux NFS-Root

2000-12-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:58:47PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
 I seem to have problems booting Linux 2.2.18 via NFS root
 image. **2.2.17 works fine**, but 2.2.18 says No NFS servers
 available, giving up.
[...]
 Any ideas what is going on?

This may not have anything to do with it, but IIRC, Alan Cox merged the NFS
v3 code into the 2.2.18 series.

-- 
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Re: testing testing (was: Implementing testing)

2000-12-27 Thread Thomas
Ola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote The big problem is as I see it, to
implement it.  I'm not familiar with the background work that the server
do so I'm not the right person ot do it, I think.  Are you willing to
implement such a system?

I will try some experimentation on a local system, and see if I can get
a proof of concept project running.  I'm fairly sure that I'm not the
right person to do it as well, but at worst I'll have just wasted some
hours finding that out...

Tom M.
LetterRip
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Sorry for the delayed reply, although I subscribed to debian-devel, I'm
apparently not getting any mail from it...)




Re: netsacape running wild

2000-12-27 Thread Frank Belew
On 11 Dec 2000 20:18:58 -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:40:56AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
  apart from that, mozilla's great. much better, faster, more stable than
  netscape. still crashes occasionaly, but that's acceptable for a beta
  program.
 
 Has anyone had trouble with anchors in Mozilla?  I've got some links
 (to internal pages unfortunately or I'd publish the URLs) with anchors
 but mozilla ignores the anchor and starts at the top.
 

This is a known bug upstream, I've been really busy, but slowly working
on getting a new mozilla deb out.


 I've also had little luck getting the PSM to behave with mozilla, but
 as I recall getting it right at my last job this is almost certainly
 loose nut behind keyboard error.
 


This too is an upstream problem, it has been fixed in their CVS, but I
don't think they have released
an unbroken PSM package yet.


-- 
Frank
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mozilla Maintainer






Nice features in a pre package manager

2000-12-27 Thread Alex Perry
In addition to the previously-mentioned pipelining that installs
packages as soon as they're downloaded, so their deb can be deleted,
and has careful sequencing so that a package is not downloaded until
its dependencies have _already_ been met, it would be nice ...

to have the package requesting front end be pipelined and prioritized.
I might have 300MB queued for download and install, but it would be
_really_ nice to have package xf86config (for example) ready as soon
as possible.  Once that is running, I can find out which graphics card
I need (while more downloading is happening in the background), and 
so I ask for xserver-svga to get top priority next (while I'm
halfway through running xf86config).  Once I've tweaked X the way
I want, during which time (for example) GCC was downloading,
I might ask for utah-glx to be prioritized.  I then ask for the
kernel source, because I need some features turning on, while
bringing up the 3D support, etc etc etc.

I reckon that being able to have an apt pipeline, with the capability
to promote packages to the head of the list, will halve the time it
takes me to bring up a workstation system.

Configuring takes user time, downloading takes network time, unpacking
takes disk drive time.  None of them are really competing for resources,
unless you've got 32MB of memory and dpkg is swiped the whole lot.
These tasks should all happen in parallel.

Suppose the feature is added as an apt-get queue to distinguish from
apt-get install, where the former gives the prompt back immediately
and communicates with an existing apt-get (or starts a background task).
The latter plays nice if there is already an apt-get running, gets
the to-do list modified and then sleeps until the other process reports
that it has completed the request (or is being killed).




Re: How to get changelog file for a given _binary_ package?

2000-12-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:17:54PM +, Marc Haber wrote:

 I would like to do this by periodically pulling the change logs for
 all packages that we have backported from the Debian web page
 (http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-changelog?package=$package) and
 then comparing the version number with the version number of our back
 port.

The get-changelog CGI doesn't seem to have worked for quite some time now.  I
don't think the problem is necessarily with multiple binary packages, but that
a lot of data is missing.  I am working on a replacement that uses a database
backend, but it would need to be hooked into dinstall/da-katie/whatever in
order to be most effective, and I don't expect that to happen anytime soon.

-- 
 - mdz




Re: booting Linux NFS-Root

2000-12-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
 On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:58:47PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
  I seem to have problems booting Linux 2.2.18 via NFS root
  image. **2.2.17 works fine**, but 2.2.18 says No NFS servers
  available, giving up.
 [...]
  Any ideas what is going on?

What kernel rev and NFS version are the NFS server running?

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Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-27 Thread Vince Mulhollon

How about an apt-getd debian daemon.

Use a apt-get client to remotely mess with another workstations packages.
Messing with only one workstation at a time is boring.  How about multicast
to configure a hundred workstations instead, all at once?  And then have a
proxying apt-getd server multicast out the .deb files to all the machines
at the same time?

Link the apt-getd daemons on multiple workstations to create a network-wide
virtual .deb cache.  If workstation A downloaded the latest libc, then
workstation B's apt-getd will query workstation A and download the package
from workstation A instead of the debian website, automatically.  The
ultimate extension would be for your apt-getd on your workstation to query
apt-getd on the main debian website, instead of configuring http or ftp
transport methods.  Sort of like hacking proxy features onto apt-get.  Or
combine the freenet protocol into it.  Using freenet would make
distribution of non-US and non-free very interesting.

Perhaps a shared network workgroup structure.  Ten workstations with their
apt-getd's all talking to the server's apt-getd as clients.  Install a new
package on the server, and after a configurable random delay, all ten
client workstations will fetch and install the same new package.

Hacking NIS features onto apt-get.  installedpackages.byname?

How about selectable compression methods to balance processor speed vs
network speed?  Distribute debian as a product in .bz2 format over my 56K
modem to my fast Pentium, and then on the fly convert it to proxy totally
uncompressed .debs over my 10 meg ethernet to my 12 meg 386.

How about a new structure for compression.  apt-get-gzip provides gzip,
apt-get-bz2 provides bzip, apt-get-uudecode provides uudecode.  Automate
downloading of new compression methods or even new transport methods as
packages using the new format are downloaded.  Kind of like Microsoft's
video viewer downloaded new codecs automatically...

How about automatic apt-get update?  apt-get automatically does an
update whenever it determines it is needed.

How about eliminating the need for apt-get update for upgrading purposes?
Still need to download the entire cache to browse all the packages, but the
cache is getting big enought that some kind of piecemeal apt-get update
or perhaps diff based packages would be a good idea.

Is distributing the apt-get package cache via CVS a good idea, or is it
insane, is it a cool hack, or all of the above?

How about apt-get being able to somehow query and find other apt sites?  No
need to edit the apt sources list manually, if you try to install
task-helix-gnome it will find helix's site automatically and ask
permission before using it.

How about apt pinging the mirrors to find the closest / fastest one and
then using it, no matter where you are on the internet?  How about pinging
them all every week to find the closest / fastest 3, and then pinging those
three before each file download to find the fastest mirror at that instant?

How about using fsp as an apt-get transport method?  fsp can be set to do
traffic shaping, limiting the usage to perhaps 25% of your connection, if
you want.

How about linking apt-get and debconf into one program with all the above
features?

You can already do most of the above using a bunch of different packages
and scripts, but it might be easier to setup as one big daemon.

Problems would be vastly heavier requirements and major security issues.





Alex Perry  

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In addition to the previously-mentioned pipelining that installs
packages as soon as they're downloaded, so their deb can be deleted,
and has careful sequencing so that a package is not downloaded until
its dependencies have _already_ been met, it would be nice ...

to have the package requesting front end be pipelined and prioritized.
I might have 300MB queued for download and install, but it would be
_really_ nice to have package xf86config (for example) 

Re: Another Grub question/problem

2000-12-27 Thread Malcolm Parsons
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:23:52PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
 At the moment I have:
 
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17 root=/dev/hda1 video=0x319

try:

kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17 root=/dev/hda1 video=vesa:0x319




Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-27 Thread Mark Seaborn
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 08:41:43PM +, Mark Seaborn wrote:

  I want a system where I can install multiple versions of a library
  (or any package really) and say which version I want each program
  on the system to use, possibly on a per-user basis.  The present
  system is a disaster waiting to happen: If I install a package
  from unstable, it often wants to replace my version of libc from
  stable with one from unstable.  If this new libc is broken it
  could bring down the whole system, when what I really want to
  happen is for the new package to use the unstable libc and
  everything else carry on using the stable libc.
 
 this is the risk you take when you use unstable. if that risk is too
 great for you, then stick to the stable release.

Of course.  I know this.  It is repeated many times on this mailing
list.  But it does not have to be so.  Why should upgrading package X
affect unrelated package Y?  If one user wants to use packages from
stable, and another user wants to live on the bleeding edge, why
should they have to move to different computers?

Sure, you could set up a chroot environment for one of the users, but
this effectively is the same as using separate machines, and removes
many of the advantages of sharing a machine (eg. communication between
the two users, and saving disc space by sharing files).


 it's a small - tiny, even - risk, but it's there.  deal with it.
 
 the amount of effort and bloat required to implement this idea for
 the handful of people who would find any use at all for it just
 isn't worth it. it's a gross violation of the KISS principle and
 would greatly increase the complexity of systems administration.

I strongly disagree.  I think it's a matter of finding the right
abstractions to make the problem appear simple.


 when i upgrade a package, i want it to replace the previous version
 - i don't want to keep the last n versions around just on the
 off-chance i might have some use for them (e.g. the last 10 versions
 of libc6 or the last 10 versions of xbooks would waste an enormous
 amount of disk space).

That's fine; an advanced package manager would let you express this
preference, and would let more cautious people express their
preferences (as well as allowing different preferences for critical
packages like libc6 and non-critical packages like xbooks).


 if i really need more than one version of a library installed, i can
 compile it in /usr/local and set LD_PRELOAD appropriately.

For LD_PRELOAD to work I have to somehow get it into the environments
of every program that will start programs that I want to use the new
library version.  This is particularly difficult for running programs
(eg. the GNOME panel).

Also LD_PRELOAD only works for C libraries.

A better solution might be what Plan 9 does:  Each process can have a
different view of the filesystem.  So you can map different libraries
into the filesystem of each process if you want, but leave the rest
unchanged.  This ought to be doable on the Hurd.

-- 
 Mark Seaborn
   - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://members.xoom.com/mseaborn/ -

 ``I owe a lot to my parents, especially my mother and
  my father'' -- Greg Norman




Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-27 Thread Toni Mueller

Hello,

On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 11:18:54AM -0600, Sam TH wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 12:25:54PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
  just wanted to point to wv which seems to do a much better
  job than catdoc, and also operates from a script if desired.
  Apparently only the GUI is missing.
 
 Actually, wv is a command line only program, although it is now
 available as a library as well.  Look for my request-to-adopt soon.

yes, I saw that is already mentioned in 'unstable' when you
search for available packages on www.debian.org. Don't know
who was listed as maintainer, though.

Best Regards,
--Toni++




Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-27 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
++ 27/12/00 16:03 +0100 - Dr. Guenter Bechly:
 Oops, I already adopted the package on 24th Dec. Sorry, but I did not know
 that anybody else was interested in adopting it. It had announced my ITA a
 day before.

I have upload catdoc only know and closed the bug. sorry.

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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread Petr Èech
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 03:22:21PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 

 |mhash (235 days old)
 
 Has this package been dropped from unstable? If yes, can we close the
 wnpp-bug about it?

No. I'm not sure if gorgo orphaned it or not. php4 builds an extension with
this library. Dunno, how useful it is though. Maybe I'll take a look at this
after Xmas.

Petr Cech




Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-27 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
++ 28/12/00 00:51 +0300 - Peter Novodvorsky:
 ++ 27/12/00 16:03 +0100 - Dr. Guenter Bechly:
  Oops, I already adopted the package on 24th Dec. Sorry, but I did not know
  that anybody else was interested in adopting it. It had announced my ITA a
  day before.
 
 I have upload catdoc only know and closed the bug. sorry.

s/know/now/ ;-)



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Feature Request: BTS

2000-12-27 Thread Toni Mueller

Hello,

I'd like to have a feature in the BTS. That's the ability to select a
minimum (maximum?) version of a given package to search for. Should
shorten the sometimes rather longish lists of bug reports (and thereby
helping to read them faster and closer, too. I may volunteer to do it,
but would need a sponsor.


Best Regards,
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Re: Feature Request: BTS

2000-12-27 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Toni Mueller wrote:

 
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to have a feature in the BTS. That's the ability to select a
 minimum (maximum?) version of a given package to search for. Should
 shorten the sometimes rather longish lists of bug reports (and thereby
 helping to read them faster and closer, too. I may volunteer to do it,
 but would need a sponsor.

The bts doesn't store versions.

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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread Tamas TEVESZ
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, [iso-8859-1] Petr ech wrote:

   |mhash (235 days old)

  No. I'm not sure if gorgo orphaned it or not. php4 builds an extension with

he says, `i think i did... about the time when i orphaned php'

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RE: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-27 Thread Matthew Reynolds
Sorry if I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm going to look into doing
something similiar to what Dwayne's doing, with a heavy Java slant.  Anyway,
I wrote up a wishlist of sorts here :
http://www.devel.e-plagiarism.com/~entropy/proposals/jam.html

The ideas seem sound, but I haven't had too many people beat on it.  It's a
rough, first draft, so please don't scream too loudly.  Again, it's
java-centric.  I'd like to be able to create a generic c/c++ capable version
later, but at the moment that's a bit more then I want to take on.  I'm
still looking for any design or just documentation on the thought behind
Apt, but it seems woefully unavailable.  Before someone says, Go to the
Java list *again*, I want thought process, not programming code or language
thought.

Anyway, enjoy, hope it helps,
Matt




Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-27 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly


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Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-27 Thread Sam TH
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 10:47:17PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 11:18:54AM -0600, Sam TH wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 12:25:54PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote:
   just wanted to point to wv which seems to do a much better
   job than catdoc, and also operates from a script if desired.
   Apparently only the GUI is missing.
  
  Actually, wv is a command line only program, although it is now
  available as a library as well.  Look for my request-to-adopt soon.
 
 yes, I saw that is already mentioned in 'unstable' when you
 search for available packages on www.debian.org. Don't know
 who was listed as maintainer, though.

What happend was the maintainer of wordview, as the package used to be
called, hasn't updated it in 13 months.  Since then, it has gone
through a total overhaul, now works a a library, and has a new
maintainer.  the most recent version in unstable is called wv, and was
an NMU.

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Re: Bug#80343: general: Lack of policy on which files should be owned by which user

2000-12-27 Thread John Galt

Isn't there rudimentary ACL implementation in the kernel?  An ACL would do
the job nicely...

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:

 Peter Eckersley wrote:
  
  
  If my I want a file to be readable by everybody *except* user fred, I
  can set permissions:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l plot-against-fred
  -rwr--1 pde  fred  1 Dec 27 17:12 plot-against-fred
  
  Of course, I need root access to do it :(
  ^^^
 
 That's what troubles me.
 
 
 

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ITP: libcrypt-ssleay-perl

2000-12-27 Thread Jason Henry Parker
[This message has been submitted as a wishlist bug against wnpp; the
bug number is 80584.]

Crypt::SSLeay allows LWP::UserAgent objects (among others) to
correctly perform GET and POST operations over HTTPS.

Since it uses SSL, the package will depend on libssl095a (and
build-depend on the appropriate -dev package, of course).

I downloaded my copy of the upstream sources from
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/CPAN/authors/C/CH/CHAMAS/Crypt-SSLeay-0.18.tar.gz.

Copyright:  This program is free software; you can redistribute it
and/or modify it under the same terms as Perl itself.

All that remains is to work out appropriate build-time dependencies,
remove the interactive build-time configuration, test the package, and
upload it.
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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread John Galt

195 days is a lot of time to have an important package orphaned.  At 6 or
so months of orphaned-ness, if a maintainer is not found, one should and
IMHO must look at the very real at that point possibility of going on
without it.  If this necessitates further changes as in removal of an
entire architecture, then I'd say that it's time to shit or get off the
pot, to use the vernacular.  It can't be too damned important if nobody
steps up and adopts it for ~6.5 months...  ATM, though, it's not a real
issue, but I think that in addition to the bug horizons, there needs to be
a wnpp check on a freeze: orphaned packages die during a freeze unless
adoped post haste (I can't remember if this means that silo would've died
during the potato freeze...).  

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Ben Collins wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 07:06:30PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
  
  If it's so important, why is it orphaned?  I'm thinking that if the SPARC
  folx can't be bothered to maintain their bootloader, perhaps the port's
  utilization of resources needs to be called into question...  What's the
  point in Debian proper showing more support for SPARC than the SPARC
  community shows for Debian?
  
 
 What the fuck are you talking about!?! For one the damn thing isn't
 changed that often. Upstream isn't making frequent updates, and the
 fucking thing works. You need to find your red herrings some place else.
 
 

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Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 09:30:13PM +1030, Matthew Tuck wrote:
 - if my apt download was terminated halfway through and I have no
 internet time left, I would still get to install my fully downloaded
 packages without messing around with dpkg and trying to work out the
 dependencies manually

apt-get -m - Attempt to continue if archives are unlocatable

 Secondly, the ability to specify higher priorites for certain packages
 you really want to download, which will download before the lower
 priorities.  Often I want to promote certain packages, because they're
 new or have important bugfixes or new features I want to see ASAP.

apt-get install them first.


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Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 01:03:03AM +, Mark Seaborn wrote:
 Of course.  I know this.  It is repeated many times on this mailing
 list.  But it does not have to be so.  Why should upgrading package X
 affect unrelated package Y?  If one user wants to use packages from

Package X and package Y are not truely unrelated if they share any
dynamic libraries, though, eg libc.

So do you have any suggestion as to how this could actually be
implemented? Even if it's actually desirable (which I dispute),
implementation seems far from trivial.


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Re: Another Grub question/problem

2000-12-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:23:52PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
 still haven't tried 2.2.18. The video= options seems to be completely
 ignored, and Linux boots up as if it wasn't there.

Did you check /proc/cmdline to see if grub actually passed it to the kernel?


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Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-27 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
So, it seems that I will maintain catdoc, not you? Am I right?

  Thanks,
  
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Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-27 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hi Martin,

cross-posting to debian-devel because your assessment of the
bug is totally wrong.

Martin Bialasinski wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  I can rename a directory to which I have permissions in shell
 
  orion:mp3$ ls -ald Rob\ Zombie/
  drwxrwxr-x2 root windows 16384 May 21  2000 Rob Zombie/
 
 These permissions are irrelevant.
 You want to change a directory item, therefore you need to have write
 permission on the directory containing this entry.
 
 Did you actually *try* to rename the directory on the shell, or did
 you conclude it should work from the above permissions?
 

Martin. Yes. I tried. Do you think I'm a newbie or something? Why 
do you think the file is owned by root? It's on windows partition...
And YES I've got group write rights. Why do you think I say that
I have permissions? Do you think everyone reporting a bug is a lamer?
Revise your prejudice please.

orion:exa$ groups
exa dialout cdrom audio dip video windows

I can do ANYTHING I WANT to those files okay?
only in gmc renaming (that is the old mv) will  fail

  But gmc thinks I don't have sufficient rights and thus doesn't allow
  me to graphically change the name from properties!! awesome bug.
 
 I assume, you don't run gmc as root, and your primary group is also
 not windows.
 

insufficient assumptions. primary group? hah. I can either change
a file. Or not. Either I'm in a group or *not*.
There is no in between like a *primary group*. If an application
makes such a distinction, and does not allow renaming on the
basis of a vacuous distinction like this, we call it a BUG.
BTW, the same gmc happily moves files and dirs in the same directory.
The only thing it can't do is renaming which is AFAIK the same
thing as moving files. 

Check it out for yourself:

orion:Stuff$ ls -ald desktop.*
-rwxrwxr-x1 root windows   125 Nov 20  1998 desktop.ini
orion:Stuff$ mv desktop.ini desktop.what!
orion:Stuff$ ls -ald desktop.*
-rwxrwxr-x1 root windows   125 Nov 20  1998 desktop.what!
orion:Stuff$ mv desktop.what! desktop.ini
orion:Stuff$ ls -ald desktop.*
-rwxrwxr-x1 root windows   125 Nov 20  1998 desktop.ini
orion:Stuff$ 

I am not making these up. It isn't fiction. I'm reporting a true
event. :(

I don't have to defend a bug like this. If you tried to actually
reproduce it before dismissing it like this, you would see what
an annoying bug it is. Do you prefer that the bug remains unreported?

*sigh*

I feel like a lot of bugs are being *censored*. :(

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Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Kurz wrote:
 |dpkg-scriptlib -- dpkg-perl and dpkg-python  (142 days old)
 
 Is any package using functions of dpkg-perl or dpkg-python? If yes, I
 think someone should take care of this packages and the bugs that are in
 them. If not, could we move this packages from our distribution to
 experimental until they are fixed and a new maintainer for them has been
 found?

tetex depends on dpkg-perl.

Wichert.

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Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-27 Thread Jason Henry Parker
Eray Ozkural (exa) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Check it out for yourself:
 
 orion:Stuff$ ls -ald desktop.*
 -rwxrwxr-x1 root windows   125 Nov 20  1998 desktop.ini
 orion:Stuff$ mv desktop.ini desktop.what!
 orion:Stuff$ ls -ald desktop.*
 -rwxrwxr-x1 root windows   125 Nov 20  1998 desktop.what!
 orion:Stuff$ mv desktop.what! desktop.ini
 orion:Stuff$ ls -ald desktop.*
 -rwxrwxr-x1 root windows   125 Nov 20  1998 desktop.ini
 orion:Stuff$ 

What are the permissions on the directory Stuff?

Permission to unlink and rename files in a directory is granted by
write access to the directory that contains the link, not by the
permissions on the file itself.

It's difficult to tell from your initial bug report if you have write
permissions to the directory containing the directory Rob Zombie
(mp3) or not.

I just ran a test with gmc and was able to rename a directory within a
directory I had rights to.  I then chowned the parent directory to
root.root, and got the appropriate error from gmc.

At a guess, I would say this is a non-bug.

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Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-27 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Jason Henry Parker wrote:
 At a guess, I would say this is a non-bug.

I'm saying that I can't rename a file using gmc which I *can*
otherwise rename. So your first guess in not very accurate.

You know how to rename something in gmc, yes? You do that
in the properties of a file, by editing the name and then
clicking okay. The edit widget there becomes a ghost item
in this startling case.

Try to reproduce what I do there. The permissions on parent
are irrelevant. That's a vfat filesystem. Permissions are
same everywhere anyway if you wonder.

orion:exa$ cat /etc/fstab | grep vfat
/dev/hda2   /winvfatdefaults,user,exec,suid 1   0
/dev/hdb1   /data   vfatdefaults,user,rw,exec,gid=105,umask=002 
1   0
/dev/sda4   /zipvfatdefaults,user,exec,rw,noauto0  0
/dev/sda1   /zip/ppa-bugvfatdefaults,user,exec,rw,noauto0  0


that happens to be data and gid 105 is windows

!!!


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