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On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 22:49, Joseph Carter wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:20:28PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote:
So, we change either the status quo, or the DFSG, or issue
clarifications on why the status quo (with GFDL-licensed components)
doesn't violate the DFSG.
Where clarification
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
ilisp
These packages will get a brief chance to be reconsidered in the
next few days, but don't bet too heavily on them making it. From
this point on, packages that are still in testing that have serious,
grave or critical bugs that get
I don't see any harm in making up jigdo files for DVDs --- I don't see
Ooh, yes, please - I'd love to be able to make bootable dvds to pass
around here [MIT area.]
Of course, if loads of people with DVD writers mail me, I'm likely to be
metoo :)
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On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:08:53PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:26:48PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
So the FDL is a free license because it's inconvenient for it to be not?
No, they're saying that a vast majority of programs which are widely
considered free by
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:20:28PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote:
Also consider that pulling gcc from main would fracture the project; it
would become literally impossible to build a completely free OS, given
that the whole ball of wax would depend on a non-free compiler.
Why do we need to pull
How about: /usr/bin/latex is a program - my_neat_little_phdthesis.tex is
a file?
Actually, /usr/bin/latex is an interpreter.
my_neat_little_phdthesis.tex *is* program code, even though the vast
proportion of the content will be literal text for output. See Andrew
Greene's BASiX (BASIC
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:54:40PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote:
I don't know. Call me an optimist, but I seem to be hearing a rough
consensus.
Where? Branden seems to believe that anything that Debian packages is
software, for the purposes of the DFSG. A number of people would argue
that small,
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 23:54, David Starner wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:20:28PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote:
Also consider that pulling gcc from main would fracture the project; it
would become literally impossible to build a completely free OS, given
that the whole ball of wax would
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 19:36, Adam Heath wrote:
54 days with of Packages(sid/main/i386) gives 900k of xdeltas.
Thanks for the info. I think that keeping 54 days of diffs (or xdeltas)
is unnecessary -- most of the benefit is accrued by keeping only 20 days
or so. But I need real stats on
On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 00:05, David Starner wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:54:40PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote:
I don't know. Call me an optimist, but I seem to be hearing a rough
consensus.
Where? Branden seems to believe that anything that Debian packages is
software, for the purposes
Le Lundi 8 Avril 2002 05:08, David Starner a écrit :
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:26:48PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
So the FDL is a free license because it's inconvenient for it to be
not?
No, they're saying that a vast majority of programs which are widely
considered free by our
At 19:35 -0400 07 Apr 2002, JPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
me to raise my awareness!). How about prefacing the scripts in
`/etc/init.d' with something along the lines of:
if [ ! $EUID == 0 ]; then
echo Sorry, this script must run with root privileges.
if
If this is
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 07:27:40AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
DFSG stand for Debian Free Software Guidelines.
Yes, and since Debian is 100% Free Software, that applies to everything
in Debian.
In any case, I don't see why an invariant rant about the evils of
Microsoft-extended Kerbeous (for
$EUID is a bash-ism; you'd need to run id instead.
Also, the echo should include the name of the script...
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Craig Brozefsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
me. I did not intend to use the Closed: syntax in the changelog, but
instead sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with close BUGID as
described in my copy of bug-maint-mailcontrol.txt which I guess is out
of date and I should have paid closer attention.
This one time, at band camp, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
DFSG stand for Debian Free Software Guidelines. IMHO we ave to create a
DFDG, Debian Free Documentation Guidelines.
I wrote this up last night after getting fed up with this thread, then
modified it this morning after reading the thread on
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:08:53PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:26:48PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
So the FDL is a free license because it's inconvenient for it to
be not?
No, they're saying that a vast majority of programs which are widely
considered free
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On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:01:55PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
you're not allowed to change the license or the author's name of a
GPL-licensed program so, by your strictly literal reading of the DFSG
that makes the GPL non-free.
True. But by long tradition and, as you say, common sense, that's
On Sun, 07 Apr 2002, JPS wrote:
`/etc/init.d'. Every once in a while I attempt to execute one of these
scripts while logged in as a non-root user. For example, I might type
...
The problem is, the initscript should actually check if it has the rights it
needs, if it is to do what you want...
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 07:27:40AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
DFSG stand for Debian Free Software Guidelines. IMHO we ave to create a
DFDG, Debian Free Documentation Guidelines.
Why? What freedoms are important for software that aren't for documentation?
If the GFDL fails the DFSG, I'd say
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 03:36:17AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Sun, 07 Apr 2002, JPS wrote:
`/etc/init.d'. Every once in a while I attempt to execute one of these
scripts while logged in as a non-root user. For example, I might type
...
The problem is, the initscript
Joe Drew wrote:
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 15:30, Martin Schulze wrote:
However, I still cannot find a request for help with setting up a
registration site/form on this list, neither including nor excluding
specs, searching from November 2001 until now.
You were looking in the wrong spot.
Am 7.04.02 um 16:53:16 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
Bzzt, I accepted the parts of your patches that met my criterea and asked
you to rework the rest, you never did, so big surprise that it is
incomplete.
Oh, I'm very sorry that I didn't read your mind correctly.
The problem is I really don't
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 07:25:55PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
Sending this bug report to debian-devel so that hopefully the maintainer
of this package will see it.
Please rename your package.
Yes, my fault. I renamed it to libxbase and just uploaded it again.
Sorry for any trouble I
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 10:01:16AM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote:
The best would be if man keyword would bring up a list of man pages
with a choose facility when more than one page exists. Maybe this change
in behavior could be set through an environment variable.
No need. Try 'man -a keyword'.
What does this package do, that dsniff's 'arpspoof' doesn't ?
I know, but I'd like to have it in Debian for the users to be able to
choose the one the see fit, as we do in editors, window-managers...
I think you know what I mean :-)
I'll consolidate this opinion : last time I really NEEDED
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:57:43PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote:
There are an ever growing number of packages that make use of the GNU Free
Documentation License. Isn't it about time to put a copy of this license
into the common reference area?
Who should I talk to about this?
Please check
Does rameau (arm autobuilder) use outdated mirror, or does not source
build depends on all autobuilders work as expected.
Solfege depends on python-gnome, and python-gnome depends on
python-gdk-imlib, but the build log say:
Checking for source dependency conflicts...
/usr/bin/sudo
I realize this is not strictly debian development question, I am
looking for any hints related to how it all works (or doesn't work)
together (kernel ide drivers, VIA MB, IRQs). I did found some
indications that ide was quite broken sometime early in 2.4 series but I
didn't find anything about
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jérôme Marant wrote:
I guess that the package will have to predepend on python, right?
So, unlike the current debconf usage, a debconf dependency is no
longer sufficient.
No, pre-depending on python will not ensure that your package's
config
On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 02:09, Colin Watson wrote:
I'm currently in the process of filing bugs on those packages in
unstable that still depend on libpgsql2.1 rather than libpgsql2, or
upgrading bugs to grave where they'd already been filed. Since the
versions in woody all appear to be fine, I'm
* Emanuele Aina
| Stephen Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] criticò:
|
| My principal objection to calling anything related to the Hurd
| production ready is that THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR BACKUP HARDWARE
| OF ANY KIND. WTF? No tape, no CD or DVD burners, no USB, no
|
* Jeroen Dekkers
| It does also other things, like making distribution creation more
| flexible. I'm thinking of having a some kind of package file for every
| source package. That would include the current information and maybe a
| lot more things like URL of upstream, license, etc. This file
* Drew Parsons
| On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 02:27:18PM -0500, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
| I don't want to start a flame war, I just want a quick opinion.
| Two bug reports against libforms0.88 want me to correct the spelling of
| publically for publicly:
|
| From WordNet (r) 1.6 [wn]:
|
|
* Brian May
| On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 02:18:37AM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
| I'm working on a hack for dpkg to allow equivalent functionality to rpm
| triggers.
|
| What applications does this have?
Recompile bytecode files when installing a new version/variant of an
interpreter (emacs,
* martin f krafft
| also sprach Sebastien J. Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.03.28.1819 +0100]:
| cvs-conf allows users to manage their configuration files using
| CVS. On the server, a global configuration project is created and
| each host is a part of the global configuration module. The
The dillo and gpm packages are missing some binaries. The dillo
binary for ia64 was built on 2002-03-22, but is still missing from the
archive. The gpm binary for powerpc was built on 2002-03-23, but is
also missing from the archive.
Could someone have a look to find find out what happened.
Previously Mark Eichin wrote:
google finds supersparrow 0.0.0 from Feb 2001 on supersparrow.org and
sourceforge, and nothing more recent -- is there any life to it? it
certainly sounds interesting...
That is Horms-versioning. He starts version numbers at 0 instead of
1 (which (almost) did
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 12:05:45AM -0500, David Starner wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:54:40PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote:
I don't know. Call me an optimist, but I seem to be hearing a rough
consensus.
[...] And you, and another group of people, see to think that Debian
should
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:20:28PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote:
Given that gcc, binutils, and KDE are in main, it would seem that the
status quo and the DFSG are in conflict, or the status quo and someone's
interpretation of the DFSG are in conflict at least.
As far as I can see neither the gcc
Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Sun, 7 Apr 2002 13:48:51 +0200:
Don't worry, ./ will be faster. There's nothing we can do about it... ;)
You can always ask them not to post it before the mirrors are ready,
not?
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Jeroen Dekkers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Of course it's nice of them that they help, but I still think it's
wrong that the registration page is hosted on a server with non-free
software and with a link to a site trying to sell non-free
products. Certainly because we can make the registration
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