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If the worst does happen, and we need to remove all mp3 players from
Debian, many packages will be affected. Most of these are because of
their dependency on libsmpeg, which is the SDL MPEG audio and video
decoder. Others depend on other MP3-playing libraries, such as libmad,
mpeglib (which is
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:25:30AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:19:17PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote:
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:16:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
Technically it wasn't. The upload is still in the DELAYED queue, which
is really just a convenient
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Hello,
I came across your website, and thought I would send you a copy of my CV
/ Resume (please scroll down the page) to see if you are in need of any
help in
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Branden Robinson wrote:
Okay. What you have is a license, then; it's just a very informal one.
Email from a person granting you permission to do things not ordinarily
permitted by copyright law is a license, when that person has
appropriate legal standing to grant such
Richard Atterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So the final solution was to use multiboot only on the first CD, the
other CDs use the same method as potato. The few machines on which it
fails are either old or have a SCSI CD-ROM, booting from one of the
later CDs should work for them. AFAIK if the
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Disclaimer: Because I do not work on the debian-cd, bf or installer
and do not follow the mailing lists regularily, I do not know much
about this issue and there are probably lots of errors in this mail.
Goswin Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
Hi Elie!
You wrote:
The NMU was made before I was in any way contacted.
That's exactly why it was uploaded to DELAYED instead of incoming.
I don't think anyone is arguing that the fix isn't needed; I don't,
however, appreciate being treated like an MIA maintainer and having
If so, why
Hi
Thanks for the arguing.
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:22:56PM -0400, Daniel Martin wrote:
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please see the thread summarized in
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/29/:
Policy for Woody Point-Releases. [4]Several [5]developers [6]would
Hi again,
I'm I right when I say that this script only can follow the
DSA:s that cover woody? It is nice but I would really like a
version that can handle sid too. :) It would be some
more text processing but I think it is doable.
Do you want me to make a dependency/recommend from
harden-*flaws
Elie Rosenblum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:25:30AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:19:17PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote:
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:16:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
Technically it wasn't. The upload is still in the DELAYED
Daniel Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hrm. The more I think about this the more I wonder if maybe the
harden-*flaws packages make much sense in stable at all. If someone
is apt-get'ing from security.debian.org, they're already replacing
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If the worst does happen, and we need to remove all mp3 players from
Debian, many packages will be affected. Most of these are because of
Why no non-free versions?
their dependency on libsmpeg, which is the SDL MPEG audio and video
decoder. Others depend
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-09-02
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: ogmtools
Version : 0.901
Upstream Author : Moritz Bunkus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/ogmtools/
* License : GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X, etc.
Hi again.
I have not seen very much complains on the policy. Actually none
on fact.
So what further steps should I take in order to make this an
official policy?
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 01:56:15PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote:
Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There are some things
Goswin Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
Goswin Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I the discovered that the woody CD (linuxtag prerelease) doesn't
boot. I heard of similar for the real woody release CDs on irc.
Can anyone boot the
I guess this is probably going to turn into a mini-policy discussion, and I
hope so, because I think we need some level of standardisation.
There are several PHP extension libraries packaged for Debian; I guess the
most famous is probably pear, but I maintain one (phtml, used by some other
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:06:20PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote:
The NMU was made before I was in any way contacted.
Would you please stop bitching, you're getting on my nerves. Except you
nearly nobody sees this as a problem. If you're not able to maintain
your packages properly and in a timely
As a kind of an adjunct to the other discussion on PHP libraries, what about
PHP programs? Not quite so touchy, as I can't see a single way forward here
(and there's no blazingly obvious reason to do so). So what are people's
best thoughts on the matter? Most packages I've seen put their
One year ago, Martin Michlmayr made a speach at the Debian
Conference 1 about Quality Assurance within Debian and the
progress that have been made so far.
He mentioned that we lack regression tests for packages,
but as far as I know, no solution has been found.
What are regression tests?
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Sebastian Rittau wrote:
Remember: You're just the package maintainer. The package does not belong
to you and it's not yours by any means.
Oh, I think you are very mistaken. It is not his in the sense that it's
under GPL. But it's his in the sense that since he is its
Le Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 12:20:22AM -0400, Elie Rosenblum écrivait:
Would you agree that performing an NMU without a BTS entry is wrong?
Nope.
The strict minimum is :
- create a patch for the NMU
- make the patch available to the maintainer (via direct mail or bts)
If you upload the package to
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Sebastian Rittau wrote:
If you're not able to maintain
your packages properly and in a timely manner, and your holding up a
major part of the distribution, it's your fault.
I'm interested in this.
Individuals differ greatly in their working methods.
So what is considered:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
This is ridiculous. An NMU is not a punishment for bad maintainers,
it's an offer of help to help you catch up in your Debian work.
No one should be offended by an NMU.
... and might I add, that in the case of documentation, it should be
actively
This one time, at band camp, Jérôme Marant wrote:
In a chrooted environment, we can install deboostrap and
package dependencies through APT.
About 6 months ago I started writing some code in expect to do just this, to
test my quake2-data installer package. I was able to install the package
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 09:32:42AM +, Martin Wheeler wrote:
I have dropped out of several co-operative projects in the past simply
because I'm a relatively slow worker -- i.e. I don't tend to give three
or four fast responses to collective development _in the same day_.
I find that sort of
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 09:16:24AM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
In the case of something so trivial as causing a recompile for a
problem that has been known for some time the warning given by the
delayed upload should be enough.
While a recompile *should* be trivial they still have the
Le Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 09:32:42AM +, Martin Wheeler écrivait:
Individuals differ greatly in their working methods.
So what is considered: in a timely manner? (Seriously.)
In this case, it is several weeks since the first announce of the perl
5.8 update.
And we don't have a generic
Matthew a écrit :
As a kind of an adjunct to the other discussion on PHP libraries, what about
PHP programs? Not quite so touchy, as I can't see a single way forward here
(and there's no blazingly obvious reason to do so). So what are people's
best thoughts on the matter? Most
On Mon, 2 Sep 2030 11:20:05 +0200
How?
In a chrooted environment, we can install deboostrap and
package dependencies through APT.
Then, we need some program that would execute some simple
scripts in a pseudo language (for safety purpose, tests must
be error prone as much
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:42:26PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
RA As usual Heise got it right:
RA http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/vza-28.08.02-000/ (German).
c't is a good info source, but this time they seem biased. First of all,
they completely miss the point that you made below:
RA
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 04:55:24PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
RM we definitely need an mp3 decoder in debian if we want to fight the
RM patent oppression at all. i think we need another branch for that
RM kind of problems.
Debian/liberty in APT over FreeNet, anyone?
--
Dmitry Borodaenko
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 08:19:19PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2030 11:20:05 +0200
How?
In a chrooted environment, we can install deboostrap and
package dependencies through APT.
Then, we need some program that would execute some simple
scripts in a
On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 02:56:46PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 10:10:24PM -0600, Georg Lehner wrote:
Hello!
El sáb, 24-08-2002 a las 17:28, Martijn van Oosterhout escribió:
...
Proposal: By default no MTA will be installed.
Umm, this may sound
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 06:13:30PM +0200, Joost van Baal wrote:
Hi,
I maintain the Lire package, which processes log files from e.g.
sendmail, bind, apache, boa and lots of other services. I don't want to
run any Lire processes as root. However, of course, the processes need
Which
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 08:58:43AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
Hi again,
I'm I right when I say that this script only can follow the
DSA:s that cover woody? It is nice but I would really like a
version that can handle sid too. :) It would be some
more text processing but I think it is
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 09:31:34PM +0100, Rob Bradford wrote:
I have written a python script that allows you to compares locally
installed packages with those on security.debian.org. Furthermore it
provides a description of the problem/DSA name if the package is
mentioned in the DSA RDF.
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:00:21PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 08:58:43AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
Hi again,
I'm I right when I say that this script only can follow the
DSA:s that cover woody? It is nice but I would really like a
version that
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 08:19:23PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Jérôme Marant wrote:
In a chrooted environment, we can install deboostrap and
package dependencies through APT.
About 6 months ago I started writing some code in expect to do just this, to
test
On Mon, 2 Sep 2030 13:51:42 +0200
(B
(B
(B This is only a short summary :-)
(B
(B pbuilder has hooks to provide such checkings.
(B
(B Good, this is a good place to do such test IMO, I'll have a deeper
(B look at it.
(B
(B
(BCurrently I only have:
(B$ ls -l pbuilder-script/
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 09:32:42AM +, Martin Wheeler wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Sebastian Rittau wrote:
If you're not able to maintain
your packages properly and in a timely manner, and your holding up a
major part of the distribution, it's your fault.
I'm interested in this.
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:07:34PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 09:31:34PM +0100, Rob Bradford wrote:
I have written a python script that allows you to compares locally
installed packages with those on security.debian.org. Furthermore it
provides a
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 12:42:20PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote:
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:37:52PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
Hi Elie!
You wrote:
Why did you NMU this instead of submitting a bug?
This is inappropriate.
Well, it's the intent of a bug squashing party to
This one time, at band camp, Jérôme Marant wrote:
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 08:19:23PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Jérôme Marant wrote:
In a chrooted environment, we can install deboostrap and
package dependencies through APT.
About 6 months ago I started
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 19:14:37 +0200
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also don't see a bug submitted with this. If you're submitting
NMU's, you sure as hell better be submitting bugs with patches (or
the fact that no patch is required other than rebuilding with an
updated system).
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 08:47:53AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
Yes. Luckily I just saw someone that have written a script that checks
the DSA:s and tell the maintainer that he/she has a vulnerable package.
That is a good solution (best?). The problem is that the DSA is
not able to
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 10:42:32PM +1000, Jamie Wilkinson wrote:
Nice! How does it work exactly? How do you write tests? Do you have scenarii
or something?
The expect script starts up a user-mode-linux on a pre-built chroot, and
then attempts to install the package in it. If that succeeds,
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 09:27:27PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2030 13:51:42 +0200
This is only a short summary :-)
pbuilder has hooks to provide such checkings.
Good, this is a good place to do such test IMO, I'll have a deeper
look at it.
Currently I
On Mon, 2002-09-02 at 03:23, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If the worst does happen, and we need to remove all mp3 players from
Debian, many packages will be affected. Most of these are because of
Why no non-free versions?
Non-free versions aren't in Debian,
On Mon, 02 Sep 2002, Fabien Penso wrote:
As a kind of an adjunct to the other discussion on PHP libraries, what
about
PHP programs? Not quite so touchy, as I can't see a single way forward
here
(and there's no blazingly obvious reason to do so). So what are people's
best thoughts
Hi
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 03:09:28PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 08:47:53AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
Yes. Luckily I just saw someone that have written a script that checks
the DSA:s and tell the maintainer that he/she has a vulnerable package.
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2002-09-02
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: mcvs
Version : 0.22-1
Upstream Author : Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://users.footprints.net/~kaz/mcvs.html
* License : GPL
Description : a version control
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 04:09:21PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
Hi
If you want a program to check for security flaws please use one designed
for that
precisely. Tiger is such a program. Just have the *flaws package recommend:
or
depend: on tiger.
On the other hand tigher does a
I am orphaning websec, here is the description:
Web Secretary is a web page monitoring software. However, it goes beyond
the normal functionalities offered by such software. Not only does it detect
changes based on content analysis (instead of date/time stamp or simple
textual comparison), it
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 05:01:14PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 04:09:21PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
Hi
If you want a program to check for security flaws please use one designed
for that
precisely. Tiger is such a program. Just have the
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 03:28:23AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote:
RB I do think that discouraging the use of patent-encumbered
RB standards is a useful way to fight patent oppression. It sends
RB the message that a patented standard is a dead standard. Maybe
RB companies will review their
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 17:22, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote:
Discouraging use of patent-encumbered technologies is the same as
political emigration: it is the easy way out of the oppression, but it
is nothing else but a defeat, and when you are fleeing to another
country, this defeat will follow you
John Goerzen wrote:
I'm concerned that a single person has the power to dictate such dramatic
changes in our procedures. Why is the NMU procedure not codified in Debian
Policy? There, at least, we have a better mechanism of updating it.
Debian policy does not dictate how developers do stuff,
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 05:56:08PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
DB Discouraging use of patent-encumbered technologies is the same as
DB political emigration: it is the easy way out of the oppression,
DB but it is nothing else but a defeat, and when you are fleeing to
DB another country, this
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 05:13:51PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
Now we just have to solve the upload-to-security problem, or simply
write some other check that scans the security.d.o web pages and
make clever things of it. Maybe using tiger, maybe some other things. But
because tiger can do
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 10:41:48AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Le Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 12:20:22AM -0400, Elie Rosenblum ?crivait:
Would you agree that performing an NMU without a BTS entry is wrong?
Nope.
The strict minimum is :
- create a patch for the NMU
- make the patch available
Matthew I would like to propose /usr/share/php4 as the place for all
Matthew scripts intended to run under php4 (whatever subversion) and
Matthew intended for inclusion in other PHP scripts.
I agree, but let's not forget about php3.
--
Ian Zimmerman, Oakland, California, U.S.A.
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On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 07:05:40PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
I guess this is probably going to turn into a mini-policy discussion, and I
hope so, because I think we need some level of standardisation.
There are several PHP extension libraries packaged for Debian; I guess the
most famous is
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Brian May wrote:
(note that I really like this realiance on checking the hostname, for
instance it doesn't work properly with virtual name domains under https,
but it somehow seems to have become the defacto
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