Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 06:25:39PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > Please correct me if I am wrong, but the script conversion will be necessary > > for a proper upgrade path from sarge to etch anyway, and thus such stuff is > > *non-optional*. > It's arguable how much drivers blacklisting is critic

Re: icu, vips transition to testing

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 11:30:06PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 04:45:31PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > >> Though grep-excuses shows them to be valid candidates, both icu and > >> vips appear to be not transitioning to test

Re: apt with index diff support

2005-09-19 Thread Miles Bader
Wow, it works really well!! I used to dread doing an "update" because of my slow dialup but now it's fast as could wish for (of course downloading the packages is still slow, but at least I can now quickly check to see if there are any interesting changes or not). Thank you very much for this wor

Re: icu, vips transition to testing

2005-09-19 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 04:45:31PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > >> Though grep-excuses shows them to be valid candidates, both icu and >> vips appear to be not transitioning to testing because of making >> packages uninstallable on alpha (according to

Re: icu, vips transition to testing

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 04:45:31PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > Though grep-excuses shows them to be valid candidates, both icu and > vips appear to be not transitioning to testing because of making > packages uninstallable on alpha (according to > http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Sylvain LE GALL
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:05:32PM +0100, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 07:55 +0200, Sylvain LE GALL wrote: > > > > > >>Hello, > >> > >>On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 07:43:43PM -0400, Faré wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Dear Debian developers, > >>> > >>>here is a

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Sylvain LE GALL
Hello, On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:03:07AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005, Sylvain LE GALL wrote: > > > I like your idea. But i think that i think it should be better > > to follow base-dir specification from freedesktop.org. It gives exactly > > the same kind of dirname, but in

icu, vips transition to testing

2005-09-19 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Though grep-excuses shows them to be valid candidates, both icu and vips appear to be not transitioning to testing because of making packages uninstallable on alpha (according to http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=icu and corresponding for vips), but I don't see any evidence that they

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Marco d'Itri wrote: On Sep 19, Alastair McKinstry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unlike Marco, I do see a lot of value in reorganising at least _some_ of the 'configuration' files of users: seperating out .mozilla web caches and .evolution IMAP caches greatly relieves the size of backups of ~/

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 07:55 +0200, Sylvain LE GALL wrote: Hello, On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 07:43:43PM -0400, Faré wrote: Dear Debian developers, here is a proposal I submit for inclusion in the debian policy: PROPOSAL 1: ~/.cache/${package_name}/

Bug#329116: ITP: gnudoku -- A program for creating and solving SuDoku puzzles

2005-09-19 Thread David Gil
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gnudoku Version : 0.92 Upstream Author : Phillip Jordan, Colin Lewis and John Spray * URL : http://icculus.org/~jcspray/GNUDoku/ * License : GPL Description : A program

Bug#329117: ITP: kwin-decor-suse2 -- This the the KDE Window decoration extracted from SUSE 9.3. In addition it features new button styles and a changeable logo in the titlebar.

2005-09-19 Thread Adrian Neumaier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adrian Neumaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kwin-decor-suse2 Version : 0.3.0 Upstream Author : Gerd Fleischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.gerdfleischer.de/kwin-decor-suse2/ * License : GPL Description

Re: Looking for a SPARC testing machine to solve parted bug

2005-09-19 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 01:37:41PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:34:26AM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > >> Last week fjp (Frans Pop) identified a regression[1] on last Parted > >> relese regarting Sparc architecture.

Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20050917 meeting)

2005-09-19 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > (reply-to: debian-boot) Too bad, typo in manual reply-to...:-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 19, Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *urgs*, I really hope that this does not mean to get rid of the hotplug > package! No, but I expect that more and more packages in the future will require udev. > There are people who like a static /dev and still want hotplug to > properly

Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Marco d'Itri wrote: > udev (0.070-3) unstable; urgency=low > > * hotplug and coldplug support has been merged in the udev package, > which > will load all the drivers needed as the beginning of the boot process > and handle hotplug events later. > The hotplug package has been disa

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 18:27 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 19, Alastair McKinstry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Unlike Marco, I do see a lot of value in reorganising at least _some_ of > > the 'configuration' files of users: seperating out .mozilla web caches > > and .evolution IMAP caches

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 07:55 +0200, Sylvain LE GALL wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 07:43:43PM -0400, Faré wrote: > > Dear Debian developers, > > > > here is a proposal I submit for inclusion in the debian policy: > > > > PROPOSAL 1: ~/.cache/${package_name}/ > > PROPOSAL 2: ~/.etc/${

Re: Looking for a SPARC testing machine to solve parted bug

2005-09-19 Thread Otavio Salvador
Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:34:26AM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> Last week fjp (Frans Pop) identified a regression[1] on last Parted >> relese regarting Sparc architecture. > > Hrmm, there should probably a footnote somewhere that links to the > b

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 19, Alastair McKinstry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unlike Marco, I do see a lot of value in reorganising at least _some_ of > the 'configuration' files of users: seperating out .mozilla web caches > and .evolution IMAP caches greatly relieves the size of backups of ~/ > directories. If al

Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 19, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Easily done. Conflict with all packages providing blacklist entries by > themselves, and convert everything else. This will keep things safe for > sid/etch users at low cost (a few conflicts you have already tracked down > anywa

Re: Looking for a SPARC testing machine to solve parted bug

2005-09-19 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:34:26AM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Last week fjp (Frans Pop) identified a regression[1] on last Parted > relese regarting Sparc architecture. Hrmm, there should probably a footnote somewhere that links to the bug? Gruesse, -- Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-19 Thread Humberto Massa
@ 18/09/2005 17:55 : wrote Josselin Mouette : This is complete overkill. The only thing currently missing in your scenario is support in apt-get and synaptic for grabbing dependencies for a single binary package. E.g. "apt-get install foo.deb" or "synaptic foo.deb". There was some patch to

Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > is it really that complicated? unless i'm missing something, wouldn't > > it be as simple as > For a start, only user-written files should be converted. Easily done. Conflict with all packages providing blacklist entries by themselves, and convert eve

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 15:17 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Faré [Sun, Sep 18 2005, 07:43:43PM]: > > Dear Debian developers, > > > > here is a proposal I submit for inclusion in the debian policy: > > > > PROPOSAL 1: ~/.cache/${package_name}/ > > There is no point in moving everything

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Faré [Sun, Sep 18 2005, 07:43:43PM]: > Dear Debian developers, > > here is a proposal I submit for inclusion in the debian policy: > > PROPOSAL 1: ~/.cache/${package_name}/ There is no point in moving everything to foo style names, it is just not worth the work. I like the current me

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > >> Wrong is endian little that knows everyone but. > > >Thgir yltcaxe! > > eurtub ,iw ta llobynt ydknih fo ehtlihcnerd? ac si tIirc delldne elpp ssennaire a rof-: .nosa ) Thiemo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Simon Richter
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Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread W. Borgert
Quoting Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >Wrong is endian little that knows everyone but. Thgir yltcaxe! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread W. Borgert
Quoting Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -EL/-EB/-el/-eb are commonly used gcc switches to select endianness. OK, thanks. Another mystery solved :-) Cheers, WB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Looking for a SPARC testing machine to solve parted bug

2005-09-19 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hi folks, Last week fjp (Frans Pop) identified a regression[1] on last Parted relese regarting Sparc architecture. His machine will be offline in comming days going to Oldenburg and then I won't be able to hack on it. Would of good if someone can do a look or provide access (as root) to some mach

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Peter 'p2' De Schrijver
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 12:59:52PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:16:42AM +, W. Borgert wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:45:26AM +0930, Debonaras Project Lead wrote: > > > The Debonaras project (http://www.debonaras.org) is a group of Linux > > > developers wh

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > Just a completely uninformed question: Wasn't the -el (endian > > little) in mipsel a pun on the "wrong" endianess? If so, > > shouldn't it be armBE, because it's the "right" endianess? > > What gets you the impression there's a "wrong" endianes

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
W. Borgert wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:45:26AM +0930, Debonaras Project Lead wrote: > > The Debonaras project (http://www.debonaras.org) is a group of Linux > > developers who have created the beginnings of a big-endian ARM (armeb) > > port of Debian. We have built 2500+ stable packages so

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:16:42AM +, W. Borgert wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:45:26AM +0930, Debonaras Project Lead wrote: > > The Debonaras project (http://www.debonaras.org) is a group of Linux > > developers who have created the beginnings of a big-endian ARM (armeb) > > port of Debia

Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 19, sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is it really that complicated? unless i'm missing something, wouldn't > it be as simple as For a start, only user-written files should be converted. > (of course provided for proper handling of tmpfile generation and a > debconf prompt, i guess

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Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:29:13AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > What about user-installed blacklists? Will the new packages at least try to > > convert these from blacklist format to modprobe format? > No (but feel free to send code to do it). is it really that complicated? unless i'm missing

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-19 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 19 September 2005 00:35, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > (Side note: What's this obsession with Joe User everyone has? If there's > something _you_ have a problem with when using Debian, shoot. Otherwise, > synaptic is very easy to use -- even to Joe User). > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:22:30PM

Re: Announcing an intention to produce an armeb port of Debian

2005-09-19 Thread W. Borgert
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:45:26AM +0930, Debonaras Project Lead wrote: > The Debonaras project (http://www.debonaras.org) is a group of Linux > developers who have created the beginnings of a big-endian ARM (armeb) > port of Debian. We have built 2500+ stable packages so far (see > http://ftp.deb

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 19 septembre 2005 à 12:02 +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > Once debian-unoffical.org supports Ubuntu, just get users to put > debian-unofficial.org in their /etc/apt/sources.list. They claim that > they will be importing Christian Marillat's mplayer/etc repository too > soon. Why import a bro

Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 19, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about user-installed blacklists? Will the new packages at least try to > convert these from blacklist format to modprobe format? No (but feel free to send code to do it). -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 19, Faré <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PROPOSAL 2: ~/.etc/${package_name}/ Renaming every configuration file is insane. Not even worth discussing. > PROPOSAL 3: ~/.run/ ~/.lib/ ~/.share, etc. As above, except that this even makes ~ more complex to manage. > NB: I've send a similar proposal

Re: Standardizing ~/.cache/ and similar things.

2005-09-19 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005, Sylvain LE GALL wrote: > I like your idea. But i think that i think it should be better > to follow base-dir specification from freedesktop.org. It gives exactly > the same kind of dirname, but in a more standardized way. > > Take a look at: > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki